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On April 01 2014 12:12 thrawn2112 wrote: i think we can deduce if the vote changing is mafia or townie based on what effect the votes have on the game
fact: rayn is town fact: whoever caused the extra vote did not claim it (future fact: the voter will probably not claim his vote)
seems like a mafia power to me. I agree
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Hey
I got a blue box
Think that did something?
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After all it is an incredible craft
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On April 02 2014 07:50 Amiko wrote: I’m back in thread, I want to mostly comment about the nuke but if anyone wants me to weigh in on something else specifically just let me know.
Giving JJD a Nuke At the risk of incurring a terrible AlakaCurse… I talked earlier about the Alakaslam vs. gumshoe. I felt Alakaslam was a better safe lynch because (1) gumshoe was idle(town/scum/3p), Alakaslam was spammy(scum/3p) (2) if Slam is a survivor or 3p, mafia may want to keep him alive.
Of the people who commented or voted, the preference was: Alakslam preference: Amiko, JarJarDrinks, Djodref, Vivax, kitaman27 (encouraged slam over gumshoe) Gumshoe preference: Austinmcc, kushm4sta, thrawn2112, Alakaslam (obvious), tehpoofter Did not comment or I missed it: Toadesstern, hope1ess (Hope1ess did vote slam earlier, but I don’t feel he commented on Alakaslam vs. gumshoe)
I mention this both because it may be helpful for me to review later, but also because I feel if someone was going to give the nuke to a player to kill Slam, JJD is a consistent choice with the views expressed yesterday.
Fire ze missiles? I don’t feel too strongly about whether you nuke slam or someone else today. However, my preference is absolutely that you use the nuke today because if you hold onto it you are at the very least a tempting conversion/kill target (if you are not scum/3p already).
I have no objection to nuking slam. I do think it is possible to use this nuke as a stick to ensure Slam helps town, but I feel like that comes with a lot of liabilities. … however, if slam becomes an irradiated hulk monster, well, may god have mercy on our souls.
Dude epiphany
This is absolutely possible with my role I think
Depends, would have to survive the blast...
Dude I don't know whether I actually want to run that risk voluntarily
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On April 02 2014 08:00 Amiko wrote: @hope1essrider: I am tempted to sheep dead rayn and feel like usually it's a good idea. But, I have trouble seeing how rayn could be so confident in his vote d1. Have you played with rayn before, do you know if he always presents a d1 read as a sure thing? Or does he only do so when he is sure?
I could read rayn's games a bit but I'd like to be in thread a little longer before I disappear to reread something else, and it'd be nice to hear from some of the players who have been with him before since they may disagree on rayn's meta. Yeah he will do this.
Got emo recently and can't remember much. But if Rayn wa absolutely certain, and it is a player who doesn't change too much, I would trust it
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On April 02 2014 07:51 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:45 Vivax wrote:On March 31 2014 23:35 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 31 2014 23:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: He has done absolutely nothing in this game, has not tried to solve anything and i am the only lynch he can get.
He literally just analyzed your play and asserted that you are scummy by working through your motives related to "web of disruption" and lack of followup. In what universe is that "doing nothing" or "not trying to solve"? He could just as easily coast along on the slam lynch. On March 31 2014 23:56 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 31 2014 23:52 kitaman27 wrote:On March 31 2014 23:47 Hopeless1der wrote: kita, rayn wants to 1v1 you. do you accept? Yep, assuming I don't come to the conclusion that you're not pushing a town vs town. rayn is guaranteeing and promising that I am mafia after a 10 sec response to my post. I am presenting a case why he is likely mafia after objectively attempting to lead him down a path to show he is town, reading through his past games for things like mass claim policy and mentioning my reservations showing that I am not 100%, and reading through other players filters to make sure he is the best lynch before deciding. Who do you guys trust more? In my currently preferred scenario, we lynch rayn. If he flips town, hope a vig can get you or slam and probably end up lynching the other one. If he flips scum, ##Unvote: Alakaslam ##Vote: raynpelikoneet (1)You make it look like kita alone is responsible for the lynch when you clearly should understand where he was coming from according to those earlier posts where you found his points on rayn valid. (2)Why kita and not slam btw? 1- I did find those points valid. I also have the ghost of confirmed rayn-"LYNCHSLAM100%_unlessyoufind100%mafia_ohlookKitamanismafia"-pelikoneet whispering in my ear. Again, this is not my own read, its sheeping the dead man. 2- The nuke that JJD is about to launch? Hmm it was Kita?
Hmmm...
... I am not entirely sure.
Hmm.
I don't actually know if I would trust Rayn's judgement here.
I may or may not get back I you on this, becoming an irradiated planar dragon sounds cool
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On April 02 2014 08:19 Amiko wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 08:08 Alakaslam wrote: Dude epiphany
This is absolutely possible with my role I think
Depends, would have to survive the blast...
Dude I don't know whether I actually want to run that risk voluntarily
Slam don't you feel the game might be more fun if there was a constant threat of a nuke? Also I'll mention that since no one died last night, it seems significantly less likely that Slam is a serial killer (I remember someone proposed that yesterday). Nah
But if it makes me a FOOKIN DRAGON u bet I will be back
I will tear stuff up until I am lynched
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But whatever I give this to y'all to WIFOM to the 10th level
Rayn likely right. Would sheep onto Kita and lynch today.
Adieu
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On April 02 2014 06:08 Toadesstern wrote: How likely is it that mafia would think shooting me would be a good idea? It would be great for WIFOM. Depending on who is, I would say 50-70%
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On April 02 2014 06:37 Tehpoofter wrote: @thrawn damn.
JJD I really want to know about your invention please stop by and indulge us.... Slam do you have any insight like did you get notified of receiving something? This ha probably been sorted, but nothing happened regarding me.
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On April 02 2014 08:35 kushm4sta wrote: akala did you actually read kitas filter or you just saying stuff? Pure meta. Don't know that Rayn is fresh enough on kita
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On April 02 2014 07:04 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 06:50 JarJarDrinks wrote: My invention has nothing to do w/ my role. I got an unexpected PM saying I received it.
Basically I can shoot my nuke @ anyone and they will get hit @ the end of the phase ignoring medics and vets. It doesn't specify day or night so I think I can shoot it during the day.
I assume whoever gave it to me, named it that to entice me to use it on slam so I don't waste any time talking about lynching him so I'm pretty sure that's what I'm gonna do unless someone has an objection.
If I'm allowed to post the exact PM I got then I will. You can quote exact role PM text, but nothing else from a PM (like time/sender). In light of this
Incoming
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On April 02 2014 08:42 Amiko wrote: @Alakaslam - I think you are the default choice for a nuke (it literally has your name on it). If JJD doesn't nuke you, should he
a) wait to use the nuke? b) nuke someone else?
and why/who? If not me, he should wait until he has a very strong read, and use it during a night phase like a vig shot.
There will be a flip at night, an therefore no doubt to it's origin.
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Original Message From Xatalos: "You are Prisoner Zero, a multi-form shape-shifting alien, on the run from the Atraxi after you escaped their prison. Being a shape-shifting alien allows you to evade all checks, so you are immune to all cop checks and will show up as town. You are also immune to conversions and your win condition cannot change.
You win with either the Town or the Cybermen, but you must be alive at the end of the game to do so because you are a Survivor.
Fake Claim:
You are Alfie Owens, son of Craig Owens, but you prefer to be called ""Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All."" Thankfully “Also Not Mum” is in this game otherwise the “Peasants” wouldn’t be able to understand you because you’re a baby. Hopefully, nothing will happen to him because you won’t be able to communicate effectively if he were to disappear. (Not really, you can still talk even if something happens to “Also Not Mum,” aka the Doctor, lol.)
You win with the Town."
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