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Amiko
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Even if we don't know the resolution order, if you were roleblocked by Vivax then we can assume the same result happened both nights (either your target was blocked both nights or wasn't blocked either night). Kita if you won't claim your role information I'm unhappy, but at least weigh in on this somewhat if you are able to. | ||
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Amiko
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(I read through the summary of the Silver Nightmare episode and I think it would be really funny if it was like, a cyberman that targets the doctor for conversion has to play chess against him on some other site.) | ||
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Amiko
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Kush post your role PM, but omit the timestamp and name of the sender | ||
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Amiko
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Hopeless1der claims that he watches whoever Rose (JarJarDrinks) targets. On April 05 2014 05:36 JarJarDrinks wrote: I'm cop. I received a towncheck. I asked if my check would happen before or after a conversion and was told that was something I wouldn't know so it's possible that vivax converted Austin. On April 05 2014 05:42 JarJarDrinks wrote: I checked kita JarJarDrinks is has flipped blue so I have no reason to doubt this. Therefore, if hopeless1der is honest, n1 hopeless1der watched kitaman27. Now, hopeless1der has claimed that he saw Vivax visit the target. On April 04 2014 22:03 Hopeless1der wrote: Therefore, if hopeless1der is honest, n1 he saw Vivax visit kitaman27. However. On April 05 2014 05:25 Vivax wrote: You won't die, austin, nor would you have yesterday cause I jailed you and did again. Vivax has claimed that he visited Austin n1 and n2. Therefore, I think there must be scum between Vivax and Hopeless1der. (umm does this make sense? lol) | ||
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Amiko
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21124179 I want your take on this pls | ||
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Amiko
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21124179 pls | ||
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Amiko
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I suck this game apparently sorry. | ||
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Amiko
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Where does JJD say he targeted austin n1? | ||
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Amiko
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On April 05 2014 05:36 JarJarDrinks wrote: I'm cop. I received a towncheck. I asked if my check would happen before or after a conversion and was told that was something I wouldn't know so it's possible that vivax converted Austin. On April 05 2014 05:38 JarJarDrinks wrote: should I reveal my check for tonight? On April 05 2014 05:42 JarJarDrinks wrote: I checked kita I was reading filter and saw the third and didn't recognize the first as indicating d1 read. my b. | ||
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Amiko
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Amiko
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But, I don’t want to distract conversation from tehpoofter. I don’t like his last few responses. | ||
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Amiko
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Scum used 2 KP used tonight as far as we can tell. If Scum had 2 KP n1, but no kills resulted, where might the KP have gone? One KP might have been used on me (because gumshoe saved me). One KP could have been used on Austin (because Vivax jailed him), but in that case Hopeless should have seen the kill. One KP could have been used on Toad, who was ethereal n1. It is also possible that scum players were roleblocked and unable to use KP. Austin was roleblocked n1 according to Vivax. Austin is a roleblocker, we don’t know whether Austin’s roleblock would go through if Austin was targeted with a roleblock. Regardless, N1 Austin says he targeted toad. So, if Austin does have KP, it was either blocked or ineffective (because it targeted toad). If a roleblocked Austin’s roleblocked actions still occur, he blocked kita n2. So kita may be able to clarify how this works if he knows whether his n2 action occurred. - I’m gonna talk about tehpoofter next. | ||
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Amiko
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To wrap up the last post- I don't see Toad or myself as a particularly likely kill n1. But, if Hopeless' claim is real, then Mafia didn't target austin. So, I will take a look at my d1 and Toad's (though I don't remember seeing much there for him besides the scumread on hopeless). | ||
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Amiko
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Day 1 I was mixed about tehpoofter. Some things he said I didn’t like: - He suggested it was possible Slam (who claimed 3rd party) was town, which didn’t feel possible to me. (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21090949］link[/url]) Granted, he didn’t say it was likely (5%) but I felt like, why even bring it up if the percentage is that low. - Early d1 he seemed to townread kita. He also had a scumread on rayn, or at least disagreed with him on some substantial points. Discussing Kita: + Show Spoiler + There’s a few more I didn’t copy On March 31 2014 03:44 Tehpoofter wrote: Rayn I have seen you own as town if you're town do that this game but we really need to hit today because of what kita posted... Kita I like you as town. On March 31 2014 06:35 Tehpoofter wrote: I think kita's theory is probably pretty damn accurate if alignment conversions are possible mafia having one would lead to them starting with that many I believe. So thrawn you reading everyone as town? I think you said you believed slam's claim do you think hes likely to be the only 3rd party and if not anyone giving you just an anti-town maybe not mafia vybe? Discussing Rayn: + Show Spoiler + There’s more than just the ones I put here… On March 31 2014 06:27 Tehpoofter wrote: See thats a bad attitude Imo Rayn is only one person and he might be scum this game. Hes not the town hero he was in titanic this is a new game boys and you shouldn't just sheep rayn. The only way rayn gets what he wants is if you act like its a forgone conclusion. On March 31 2014 06:37 Tehpoofter wrote: Glad you agree with me! We should vote him off cause hes not doing a good job of hunting for scum like I feel he does as town and might be pushing an easy lynch in slam irrelevant of his role and not bothering to scum hunt. On March 31 2014 07:10 Tehpoofter wrote: Gonna snag dinner since the thread is dead..... Super glad rayn wants to instant lynch the survivor claim and do nothing else. Look at all the conversation it generates while scum just says thanks and hangs back. On March 31 2014 18:24 Tehpoofter wrote: I would love to hear your bigger case rayn. This is what I mean that is different from last game... your heart is either not as into this game or you're a different alignment than last time. The rayn from the game I played was more than happy to bring up a whole case on someone even if it was a massive wall of texts and then scream at the town for not realizing they're scum. This isn't what you're doing this game... its different and its the only meta I know for you. The Way I play mafia is assessing how people play different alignments and roles and compare them between games along with the information in the thread to attempt to make a read. Thus far you are different than last game where you were basically the whole town. IF I have a read you do X as town and then you do Y instead should I draw a different conclusion? Day 2, tehpoofter lists kita as his second highest scumread. + Show Spoiler + On April 01 2014 18:08 Tehpoofter wrote: Town: Thrawn - He seems to be actually taken a back by the fact that he is only finding town, scum needs mislynches so if hes scum hes playing against his win con. Austin - I think his case and the way he fought it was townie. He also had the same line of thinking as me that we shouldn't just lynch SLAM and should try to find real scum sadly he didn't find any scum but neither did I For scum: I want to look at vivax, kita, kush and JJD the most. I don't think they are all four scum but I think there is definitely a scum in there. Vivax for the reason that he tried to bury rayn and then voted slam... like he buries a town and gets off the wagon good lay low scum play imo. Kita: He puhsed on rayn and didn't really seem to listen to his responses during his push if you will note the difference between him and me pushing our cases on rayn I was not really sure and uncertain about if he was scum and austin pointed it out on my case I feel like being sure is more scummy than townie cause I'm trying to figure it out and kita in this case would just need a ML also I pointed out earlier my theory on the vote count thing possibly being from him. Kush: He is here because my town read thrawn wants to know whats up with you. JJD: He says that kita scum slipped calling me and him town maybe he did and kita is scum but it counts against JJD here because I'm in no way confirmed so how does he know I'm town? I mean maybe he read me as town but I didn't see that in his read... I'm going to read his filter after this and see if I missed him calling me town before that but I don't recall it. I ranked my scum and town in order of strongest to weakest. I don’t feel he really asked kita questions to follow up on those reads. But, it’s also unusual because toward the end of the day he seems to suggest that kita’s actions that day didn’t seem that scummy. Then the next morning he is back on with kita as scum. [spoiler] On April 03 2014 20:14 Tehpoofter wrote: Anyways I'm out for the night. I will get up early to be around pre deadline. I'm okay with any of those on my scum list for lynches, preference to vivax. Also @ austin the post you quoted with 4 I still am hardest on vivax, kush is clear I think cause his role with the extra vote and day shot would be insane op for Mafia, Kita I will get up and read on d2 actions and see if he makes the pile but just the brief thread read through nothign stood out. JJD has a nuke and I like what he was doing pressuring hopeless with the fake claim thing it seemed like a really brazen thing to do and not something you'd really want to do as mafia and I think hopeless acted poorly on it. I know I haven't been around but I feel confident on this vivax lynch read my case, maybe kush will come out with a big case like he said in one of his posts but I don't like his posting patterns. night On April 04 2014 04:41 Tehpoofter wrote: I'm about to head to work but wanted to post from my iPad that I agree with Austin's point and toad shouldn't get a bullet but a check or other things. I also am concerned if a Kita hopeless team. Kita has two days now put cases on someone I started to pressure at the start of the day towards the end and vivax giving me the same feeling as rayn yesterday. Off to work I might be switching to Kita/hopeless. On April 04 2014 05:41 Tehpoofter wrote: bah this role claim stuff would happen while I'm commuting and starting work.... @DJO why do you think djo's role is maf sided? ##unvote ##vote kitaman I'm not convinced any of the roles have to be blue even toads but if town lynches a third straight blue we're pretty much SoL. To give tehpoofter credit, I feel like his reaction to this is in line with what he is saying about the players in the game. + Show Spoiler + On April 04 2014 07:29 Tehpoofter wrote: How is kita hella town to you? Also why is JJD the possible scum out of the claimed blue roles? More recent posts- On April 05 2014 12:54 Tehpoofter wrote: I have something to say more on Amiko cause he randomly got his role changed (sounds cool that it happened but why? Like what brought on the change just a random townie day 2 gets a nuke out of no where? Was town thought to be in a bad spot at this point?) I didn’t like this post because when I wiki’d my character name I learned that he interacted with a bomb to blowing up cybermen. I guess in retrospect you haven’t really paid much attention to the lore (which is maybe okay, I don’t know if it necessarily helps) so I won’t hold this against you all that much. On April 05 2014 12:56 Tehpoofter wrote: Kita is mafia. JJD had a role that could do something to others kita as mafia would know that its not a medic/shrink/inventor since JJD had the nuke yesterday. Austin lived through the night so unlikely to be vigi my next thought would be cop. JJD was going saying adamantly against kita if I recall correctly. So that was my first thought that Kita didn't want a cop claim with a red on him thus 1- JJD only claimed cop after the night action deadlines were in. So, scum had already decided who to kill before the cop claim came out. 2- Scum used 2 KP last night. If tehpoofter thinks scum killed JJD for being suspicious of kita, why would they also killed Djodref, who seemed to really trust kita (look through his filter, I think it’s basically all pro-kita)? Besides the above @tehpoofter: If you think kita is scum, who do you think is his most likely partner? | ||
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Amiko
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Amiko
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On April 05 2014 13:49 Vivax wrote: Amiko, maybe scum has the ability to withhold KP 1 night and have 1 extra the next one. Or they convert on odd nights and 2 kp on even, Toad's role had similar mechanics. This is possible, I feel like the second one makes a little more sense to me (because I think mafia would want to use KP n1). | ||
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Amiko
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I am a little puzzled by your last post. You think mafia have a jailkeeper. You think Vivax is jailkeeper. You think Vivax has said the scummiest thing the whole game. But, you don't think mafia is Vivax. | ||
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