EPT@austin you really think slam is going to flip town o.0?
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Tehpoofter
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@austin you really think slam is going to flip town o.0? @Slam RIP bro good playing with you! @whoever gives out inventions: I want one! | ||
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On April 03 2014 18:08 Toadesstern wrote: I'm not saying I'm confirmed, I'm saying there's no reason to consider me mafia or town because I'm not really playing the game and you're not listening. And no I didn't know that. That really really bugs me. Why is not playing the game a town tell? I see not playing and I think mafia. I don't like this. | ||
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Also @ austin the post you quoted with 4 I still am hardest on vivax, kush is clear I think cause his role with the extra vote and day shot would be insane op for Mafia, Kita I will get up and read on d2 actions and see if he makes the pile but just the brief thread read through nothign stood out. JJD has a nuke and I like what he was doing pressuring hopeless with the fake claim thing it seemed like a really brazen thing to do and not something you'd really want to do as mafia and I think hopeless acted poorly on it. I know I haven't been around but I feel confident on this vivax lynch read my case, maybe kush will come out with a big case like he said in one of his posts but I don't like his posting patterns. night | ||
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I also am concerned if a Kita hopeless team. Kita has two days now put cases on someone I started to pressure at the start of the day towards the end and vivax giving me the same feeling as rayn yesterday. Off to work I might be switching to Kita/hopeless. | ||
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@DJO why do you think djo's role is maf sided? ##unvote ##vote kitaman I'm not convinced any of the roles have to be blue even toads but if town lynches a third straight blue we're pretty much SoL. | ||
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On April 04 2014 05:59 austinmcc wrote: Toad you care to reveal what you're hiding in the hopes of pushing people elsewhere? This is kind of what I'm talking about. Even if you're not reading, you just reveal a role name, hide information, get lots of votes, and do nothing. It's not just inactivity. Best evidence for toad not being town. I would be spilling my guts if I was about to get lynched. | ||
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On April 04 2014 06:02 Djodref wrote:  | ||
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On April 04 2014 07:19 kushm4sta wrote: austinmcc - hella town kitaman27 - hella town Hopeless1der - probably town thrawn2112 - possible scum JarJarDrinks -possible scum Vivax - probably town Djodref - possible scum Amiko - possible scum Tehpoofter - possible scum How is kita hella town to you? Also why is JJD the possible scum out of the claimed blue roles? | ||
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On April 04 2014 06:11 austinmcc wrote: Things to do: - make everyone take stances on some people, we all need a few townreads and scumreads. Someone pointed out earlier that this was good because then folks have a hard time post-conversion. We're two days in, buncha dead people we don't want dead, we NEED people to make reads because then we can laugh at them when/if they get converted and we can murder their faces. Their red, red silver faces. - sorry toad - I'm serious about some kind of cyberman alert thing IF we have an inventor. I don't expect this to be a no-KP game, given we had a medic, but protection is good and stopping conversions is good. - we should look for awkward phrasing from people D1 on slam. It's a minor thing, but scum would KNOW he wasn't scum, and was likely 3P (or town, hi austinmcc). They may have overly used 3P language, undersold the chance he was scum. It's NOT A MAJOR THING AND IT'S NOT CONCLUSIVE, but there's a chance someone looks particularly odd. - Djo seems more townie because of the first popcorn. This is stupid, but I continue to find him townie. On April 01 2014 19:05 Tehpoofter wrote: Thread is dead again. I'm going to bed. Gum please speak at some point that would be amazing. @everyone, who do you think would use the extra vote that occurred on rayn and why? There is basically a confirmed vote manipulation mechanic no one is claiming it and it was used to lynch a town blue so like no way I can see its town sided role. Also before the night ends I think everyone putting in a top 2 town/scum reads (and including Slam is automatic bullshit) would be really useful to pigeon hole people who might be converted to scum in the night. Refusal to do this will be looked upon by me as scummy. This needs to be done and it didn't happen. I pointed it out last night but would be useful tonight for sure. I'll list mine next then going to read up on the other games I'm in while working so ill check back in infrequently. | ||
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We also have other claims at being blue Watcher from hopeless, Kush says hes day vig plus double vote (you didnt use your power today I'm assuming based on the vote counts), Vivax, JJD some types of visiting roles. Also There is someone who gave a nuke to JJD as he said he didn't make it. So we're looking at assuming all roles are blue, 7 blue town power roles and a 3P survivor that seems insanely high to me unless mafia has some big role maybe kill + conversion and I would think points to there being 2+ on the first day or it doesn't seem very balanced. I'll say it now but I think one of the blue roles is most likely mafia, or at the least 3P. Now maybe thats not the case but that only leaves Me, Austin, Kita, DJO, Amiko Thrawn (I believe) and for me I think kita/Djo would be the only possible scum team there I mean Amiko maybe cause of Austin's case I could maybe see him being that constructed but it still reads town so doesn't ping as super scummy to me. So my list of reads atm: Town Hero: Tehpoofter Town: Thrawn Austin Blues: (I think one is scum hopeless claim is the most townie cause it seems silly for scum to claim when they did.) Kush reaction was good to gum even though he shot the medic I'd have done the same as town although his role does seem really strong. Vivax probably the most scummy claim wise cause he was reluctant to give up his visit. But I was going to move my vote off him based on play so I still give him town points. JJD Seemed to try to get hopeless on that whole fakeclaim thing thats the 3rd occurance of him really pushing a scum read on something slip like to me it pings scummy because of my background as I highlighted in a previous post but it may be different on the forums. Kush Vivax Hopeless JJD Neutral Pile: Amiko - Has seemed very town in his posts but austin's case against him makes me question how much of it is off the cuff and not preplanned... its easy to look town if you know whats going on. I don't fully believe this read and would love to have more interaction with Amiko but if all blue claims are real it has to be someone else so he goes to neutral as I'm stronger on thrawn/Austin atm being town. DJO - He hasn't really done much of note for me I was making this list and in my head thought "idk where I stand on DJO tbh" so its null for me and hes not a blue role claim so he stands at neutral. I will try to reread his filter but probably cant get around to it for 6-7 hours as I'm at work and want to catch up on other games as this one is night phase atm. Most likely Scum: Kita - I think he has pushed on two lynches rayn first then vivax if vivax is town this makes him look even scummier in my eyes. He pushed on both their lynches later in the day after I had already been pushing on both from the start of the day he also calls me null when if we're in the same mindset wouldn't he think me more town he doesn't even mention our similar pushes in his reads. Now for me I like that he pushed on those people but he has been around at both EoD when I've been hesitant and reconsidered both my reads and he didn't with rayn or vivax just left his vote where it is. So to me it seems like someone scummy hoping on an established wagon to push someone into a lynch and not reconsidering at EoD. | ||
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@thrawn at the time I didn't want to vote a blue and he was the scummiest of the non-blue claims in my eyes. Plus what I stated in my case just above this... its honestly not very strong but more of a PoE thing. Other people looked townier and someone has to be scum type of deal. | ||
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@Thrawn/kush and those around can you guys make a list of who you think is scum/town so we can have it documented for possible conversions? | ||
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On April 04 2014 14:11 Amiko wrote: @tehpoofter I'm going to bed soon but if you are still here let me know if what I am saying about hopeless makes sense or if I'm just sleep deprived or something On April 04 2014 04:57 Hopeless1der wrote: Here's the real reason i wanted ot lynch vivax: I'm a modified watcher A targetted B Vivax Targetted B I know the role name of A. I do not actually know who A is or who A targetted. So from what I understand his report would have been "Rose targetted B and Vivax targetted B" ... On April 04 2014 05:09 Hopeless1der wrote: "You are Mickey Smith, ex-boyfriend of Rose Tyler. You hate it when she leaves on her escapades with the Doctor and have even taken to following her for what little time you see her. You are a watcher, but you target whoever Rose Tyler targets. (You never see Rose visit someone and if Rose isn't in game, it is a random selection of who you watch). You win with the Town." Rose targetted "someone". Vivax also targetted "someone". This is all i know The role thing to me thats weird is bolded. You never see rose visit someone.... So does your report just say "Vivax visited played B?" I mean its a weird role I think its kinda confusing to think about it. I'd be interested to see what it would report back if JJD aka Rose was the only one who visited someone? Would it just say Rose visited X or no one visited X and you assume Rose did? So I don't 100% follow Amiko to summarize but the whole situation is confusing tbh its an odd role and seems underwhelming at best. | ||
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Kita care to share your reads as of now? If I make a case on you at the start of the day you going to make a bigger case on yourself come end day  | ||
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"You are Angie Maitland, sister of Artie Maitland. Luckily for you, Clara Oswald is your nanny, so you were able to travel to one of the greatest amusement parks in the galaxy, Hedgewick’s World of Wonders, and that’s pretty much all you’re known for. You win with the Town." I need to reread and look through everyone's claims but to understand Vivax=Jailor, Hopeless = Water amiko=Town Roleblock Kita=Doctor with unknown powers Kush = River song with a day shot + a double vote? JJD was Cop DJO was inventor Amiko got changed to a 1 shot vigi. So that leaves me and thrawn as Vt? Did I leave someone out? Also Were JJD and DJO lovers? Is that why they both died? I need to reread but they had the same last name and I thought someone's role said something about that... idk might be flavor and they just got 2KP. Also checking in that I didn't receive the scummometer but its an awesome name well done DJO. | ||
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Kush and Kita really should full role claim. I have a theory that would be interesting in that Since there is so many blue powers when someone gets converted they get a 1 shot nuke... like kush did yesterday and amiko got today. Just something I was thinking about cause how crap this setup is kidna imbalanced for town otherwise assuming role claims are true. Like what kind of town role gets randomly turned into a day vigi? Anyways off to lunch? | ||
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On April 05 2014 10:58 thrawn2112 wrote: i would prefer a check only on one of kita/me, especially if it's an insta-check Any reason you wouldn't want to check me? I believe I'm the other VT since amiko claimed his role was changed at the start of day. I would prefer Kita or Thrawn either way. I'd still like to see what kita's role does. So I have been really busy at work and I'd like to sit down and figure out who did what to who and what nights so we can kinda get a time line of events. The whole Hopeless thing when he was talking about his return for tonight read really weird to me that at first Austin did go to kita then didn't. I am kinda regretting whoever brought up that people should all ask for fake role claims from the host because it seems that some have to be fake I mean there is so many roles and I'm VT how was mafia suppose to win with like 7 PR and a medic save and inventions and a cop and a roleblock and an untargetable? I mean you have to assume someone has been converted. So the roleclaim is nice but idk with conversions some of these could be mafia now (at least 2 our if there is 1 conversion a night unless they tried to use it on Slam/Toad. I think one thing to look at is N1 so if we think they saved KP then there is not much to do but if we think they tried to kill and couldn't because of Toad or a save on amiko then it might be good to review people who push on those targets because if I was mafia and saw my NK didn't die I would immediately try to push on them and see if others changed their reads on them overnight (indicating a save) I am at work and honestly not sure I have time to look through but could be a decent route to take. I'll address the questions about my kita read in the next post. | ||
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