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On April 04 2014 02:34 Xatalos wrote: Vote Count
Vivax (3) - Tehpoofter, kushm4sta, Hopeless1der, Alakaslam, Alakaslam Toadesstern (3) - Djodref, thrawn2112, Hopeless1der Hopeless1der (2) - Toadesstern, Amiko, Alakaslam Djodref (1) - Alakaslam kitaman27 (1) - JarJarDrinks
Not Voting (2) - austinmcc, kitaman27
Currently Vivax is set to be lynched!
The lynch will happen in at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Slam is listed twice and vivax isn't there. Error or more vote shenanigans?
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On April 03 2014 21:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 09:57 Hopeless1der wrote:On April 03 2014 09:50 JarJarDrinks wrote:Here's what I'm getting @ w/ my line of questioning w/ hope. The way he words it sounds like he's saying everyone already received fakeclaims. On April 03 2014 00:58 Hopeless1der wrote: i.e. no, claiming doesnt prove anything, everyone has fakeclaims, everyone is probably blue. Well I'm blue and I only received my role. I was not given any fakeclaim. Here he again seems to hint that he already has a fakeclaim: On April 03 2014 08:52 Hopeless1der wrote: Why are you pissing about with setup speculation JJD? Do you have a point here? Am I scum because I obviously have a fakeclaim that I wont reveal and you dont therefore you must be town? Stop beating around the bush. I think he read this from the OP and assumed everyone was given fakeclaims to start the game. On March 09 2014 14:50 Crossfire99 wrote: Claiming: Claiming your role is allowed, but you cannot claim when you got your role pm, who sent it to you, etc. Fake roleclaims are provided before the game and on request to all players no matter your alignment. I dont hint that I have one, I hint that I knew THIS is exactly where you were going with this line of questioning. It is completely transparent, but trying to claim I dont have a fakeclaim after saying "everyone has fakeclaims" looks stupid, so I had to run "no comment". I should have said "everyone has access to fakeclaims", but I typed that in the moment to point out why rayn's claim is in no way a reliable piece of information. Why couldn't you just answer me when I asked? Why did you wait untill this post to say that you didn't have a fake-claim? You could have been like "No, but we all have access to fakeclaims." Refusing to answer untill afetr I point out that blues weren't given fakeclaims sounds like you didn't know untill I said it.
Any response hopeless?
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On April 04 2014 03:22 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 03:16 JarJarDrinks wrote:On April 03 2014 21:13 JarJarDrinks wrote:On April 03 2014 09:57 Hopeless1der wrote:On April 03 2014 09:50 JarJarDrinks wrote:Here's what I'm getting @ w/ my line of questioning w/ hope. The way he words it sounds like he's saying everyone already received fakeclaims. On April 03 2014 00:58 Hopeless1der wrote: i.e. no, claiming doesnt prove anything, everyone has fakeclaims, everyone is probably blue. Well I'm blue and I only received my role. I was not given any fakeclaim. Here he again seems to hint that he already has a fakeclaim: On April 03 2014 08:52 Hopeless1der wrote: Why are you pissing about with setup speculation JJD? Do you have a point here? Am I scum because I obviously have a fakeclaim that I wont reveal and you dont therefore you must be town? Stop beating around the bush. I think he read this from the OP and assumed everyone was given fakeclaims to start the game. On March 09 2014 14:50 Crossfire99 wrote: Claiming: Claiming your role is allowed, but you cannot claim when you got your role pm, who sent it to you, etc. Fake roleclaims are provided before the game and on request to all players no matter your alignment. I dont hint that I have one, I hint that I knew THIS is exactly where you were going with this line of questioning. It is completely transparent, but trying to claim I dont have a fakeclaim after saying "everyone has fakeclaims" looks stupid, so I had to run "no comment". I should have said "everyone has access to fakeclaims", but I typed that in the moment to point out why rayn's claim is in no way a reliable piece of information. Why couldn't you just answer me when I asked? Why did you wait untill this post to say that you didn't have a fake-claim? You could have been like "No, but we all have access to fakeclaims." Refusing to answer untill afetr I point out that blues weren't given fakeclaims sounds like you didn't know untill I said it. Any response hopeless? Sorry forgot about this. I was hoping someone would call me out for the reasons you stated because they'd likely be town, knowing blues didnt get fakeclaims to start with. I havent reviewed the thread at that point yet to see if anyone might have been thinking that. Are you taking out pages from kitas town trap retconning book now?
Why didn't you mention this untill now? yesterday your reasoning was this:On April 04 2014 03:22 Hopeless1der wrote: I dont hint that I have one, I hint that I knew THIS is exactly where you were going with this line of questioning. It is completely transparent, but trying to claim I dont have a fakeclaim after saying "everyone has fakeclaims" looks stupid, so I had to run "no comment". I should have said "everyone has access to fakeclaims", but I typed that in the moment to point out why rayn's claim is in no way a reliable piece of information. Why wouldn't you tell us @ this point that you were trying to see if people would call you out about it?
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On April 04 2014 04:29 Vivax wrote: Also I would like to know when hopeless found out that everybody has fakeclaims, and if you actually knew that too when you confronted hopeless. Um what?
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On April 04 2014 04:50 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 04:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:On April 04 2014 04:29 Vivax wrote: Also I would like to know when hopeless found out that everybody has fakeclaims, and if you actually knew that too when you confronted hopeless. Um what? Hopeless admits blue, you ask him about fakeclaims. He says he won't tell and that he wonders why you're asking him this (is it cause you're blue and have no fakeclaim) Now I don't know who of you knew about the fakeclaim requesting stuff, which changes the interpretation of events in some way. you knew it, he knew it - nope, why would he refuse to tell you he has one if it's public knowledge that anyone can. you knew it, he didn't - etc. Anyway, considering how he didn't want to tell it's pretty obvious he didn't know it, but he probably justified it in some way? This is confusing I'll go reread. Ok.
Yes I knew that we could request claims. I thought by his wording, he was implying that we already had the claims, Like they were given to us w/ our roles.
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On April 04 2014 04:57 Vivax wrote: And where does hopeless call you scum JJD?
I'm frantically trying to find reasons for not lynching him cause I'm scared of the blue claim. On April 03 2014 01:17 Hopeless1der wrote: it just feels so strange to see kush this well put together. At any rate, I dont think any scum were on rayn right now.
I dont like JJD's accusations against kitaman. "Kita knows I'm town" when kita essentially said he'd push the low tier players and gave examples of who those players would be. "Kita retconned his case on rayn". I fundamentally disagree with this statement because Kita's case relied on the fact that he tried to get rayn to look into his meta and rayn refused to do so. It was an ongoing process that rayn never pursued him and that is what kita found scummy about rayn.
So I'd want to lynch JJD for tunneling kita while being completely sure that he's right every step of the way. He never wavers, never reconsiders.
I'd also lynch gumshoe for actively refusing to play this game. This should be self explanatory.
On April 03 2014 03:47 Hopeless1der wrote: vivax are you scum with jjd?
On April 03 2014 05:18 Hopeless1der wrote: I cant fathom wtf gumshoe was thinking. Whatever, kush confirmed town imo, amiko is pretty goddamn likely town. i'd like to lynch JJD or Toad.
Toad because he keeps saying stuff like "i havent read that yet" but he's all up in thrawns grill for his read on rayn.
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On April 04 2014 05:00 austinmcc wrote: This is difficult to read. Are you being cryptic on purpose or can you try to explain clearer or am I missing something? x2
and post the full role please
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like we're an hour from lynch:
Post the full role and the exact results ASAP please,
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How do you know that vivax targetted someone based on that role?
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Is it implying that vivax and rose targetted the same person?
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On April 04 2014 05:16 austinmcc wrote: SOMEONE WHO IS ROSE TYLER AND VIVAX, AS SOMEONE, BOTH DID SOMETHING TO SOMEONE? to the same person?
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K, I'm Rose. Vivax did you target someone?
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Actually vivax already admitted to targetting someone. I vote that he says who it was.
thoughts?
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On April 04 2014 05:25 Hopeless1der wrote: JJD very likely town based on role speculation. Is that so when U see our targets are different u can say vivax is scum?
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I really wanna know who vivax targetted. I really think knowing can only be positive.
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On April 04 2014 05:23 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 05:20 JarJarDrinks wrote: Actually vivax already admitted to targetting someone. I vote that he says who it was.
thoughts? Well, if you both targeted the same person, Hopeless i somehow cleared, if you didn't, we can lynch him without remorse. But it's Vivax decision at the end. You seem really confident that Vivax and I are both town.
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Can someone give me a reason why vivax shouldn't say who he targetted?
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On April 04 2014 05:35 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 05:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:On April 04 2014 05:23 Djodref wrote:On April 04 2014 05:20 JarJarDrinks wrote: Actually vivax already admitted to targetting someone. I vote that he says who it was.
thoughts? Well, if you both targeted the same person, Hopeless i somehow cleared, if you didn't, we can lynch him without remorse. But it's Vivax decision at the end. You seem really confident that Vivax and I are both town. Well, you just have to be both not scum and if you claim your targets together Hopeless is cleared. I don't believe both of you are scum. U say if our targets are different then we can lynch [hopeless] without remorse. Well if vivax reveals his target and I say it doesn't match then what is preventing vivax from being scum?
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On April 04 2014 05:36 thrawn2112 wrote: because he's not mafia? I tend to agree. I'm hoping this will prove hopeless is.
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