EPTOn April 03 2014 05:01 Vivax wrote:
was that a vig kill?
was that a vig kill?
Yeah, kush insta-vigged him because he fakeclaimed using kush real name.
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Yeah, kush insta-vigged him because he fakeclaimed using kush real name. | ||
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On April 03 2014 05:18 Hopeless1der wrote: I cant fathom wtf gumshoe was thinking. Whatever, kush confirmed town imo, amiko is pretty goddamn likely town. i'd like to lynch JJD or Toad. Toad because he keeps saying stuff like "i havent read that yet" but he's all up in thrawns grill for his read on rayn. @Hopeless I really liked this post of yours+ Show Spoiler + On April 02 2014 08:21 Hopeless1der wrote: I preferred to lynch rayn partially for "information" purposes, the wagons and peoples reads etc, and partially because I was more inclined to believe he was being a huge bully, creating a toxic environment and refusing to do anything productive. As it turns out rayn is just as capable of being demoralized as anyone else, but I guess I just hold him to a higher standard than other players. Slam imo is a bad lynch because he's likely 3rd party. You're never going to get a useful discussion surrounding his alignment. That meant that for me the lynch was between kita and rayn, and at least on D1 I thought rayn was scummier and worth lynching. Could you tell me more about Toad ? | ||
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I find quite suspicious that Toad is going after thrawn because thrawn is playing to his town standards, i.e posting a lot and participating in the on-going discussions of the thread. I don't know if his scum meta changed that much, but I believe that scum thrawn wouldn't post that much, and I think Toad should know it as well. What do you think about the fact that he seemed to forget about you ? Regarding the possible snipes and who has been successfully protected or not, I think we should not pay attention to that at all given that we have no notifications. Maybe there are also only conversions in this game, I think there could be plenty of reasons for a no night kill. I'm going to vote Toad because I want more from him today. I'll be happy if you join me. ## vote Toad | ||
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On April 03 2014 05:48 Vivax wrote: What's this going to be? If scum assumes you aren't just 1-shot they convert you and have a vig. Had you thought a little more you would have said you were one-shot. But maybe you want to be converted, fuck knows. I for one know that past this day you will have to use your powers much more in accordance with town as to get away that possibility, ie vigs out of the blue or stuff like that are a reason to lynch you. Kush is totally not to blame here. Gumshoe didn't participate at all and suddenly he claims while using a fakeclaim with kush's name. He was caught lying and even yourself ended up wanting to lynch him. How can you reproach kush to have vigged gumshoe ? You wanted to get rid of him ?? | ||
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On April 03 2014 05:57 Vivax wrote: I'm not reproaching him for shooting gum. I'm saying he should have claimed to be 1-shot vig to be a less attractive target for converters. My bad I misunderstood what you meant... Would you like to lynch Toad by the way ? | ||
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What do you think about Toad ? Would you consider lynching him today ? | ||
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this message was addressed mainly at kush and Vivax, because it looks like they are present in the thread at the moment. | ||
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Please don't try to figure out why mafia would have hit you, it's a waste of time. For a start, you cannot be sure that anybody was actually trying to kill you N1 because... no notifications this game You can be honored that gumshoe tried to protect you. But you should focus on the lynch target for today, so hum, what do you think about Toad ? | ||
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On April 03 2014 06:25 Vivax wrote: Rather not atm, what do you think about what he posted on thrawn here? @ Vivax Regardless of Toad alignment, I have the feeling that Toad didn't understand what thrawn was saying in his post. But there are two things I don't like in this post.
"I really don't think that's something a town-thrawn would be posting. At all." That comes too strong of an assertion for me. | ||
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The thing is, Toad had Hopeless has scum, and for a long time (from the beginning of the game until rayn's lynch, because he still mentions hopeless as a better lynch in his post), but did you feel like he was really trying to convince people to vote Hopeless ? It's very convenient to have a scumread on Hopeless as mafia because Hopeless is scummy (if we assume here Toad mafia and Hope town). But you don't really want him lynched, you prefer to have him until lylo of this kind of situation. Toad had Hopeless as scum almost for all D1 and didn't try to push a lynch on him. He was ok with rayn lynch. Despite having Hopeless as scum for D1, it looks like he forgot about it N1 and D2. Plus, Toad is not really playing. I think these reasons are good enough to vote him. | ||
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On April 03 2014 08:02 Vivax wrote: This isn't even about you defending thrawn cause you actually can claim you aren't since you simply have shown why you disagree with Toad's case. But the point of it is that in all of this I don't see how you come to the conclusion that Toad could be scum. What about my arguments then ? Hopeless has been Toad's scumread but... Toad didn't push Hopeless lynch D1. Toad forgot about Hopeless since rayn's lynch. Toad is barely playing. | ||
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On April 03 2014 08:21 JarJarDrinks wrote: Hopeless, U gonna be around for a few? I'd like to ask you about something and I'd prefer u answer right away if possible. Don't forget to nuke slam... I think today is the best. I don't want you to be blocked or whatever could happen at night. The sooner the better, unless you have better targets ? In this case, please share them I don't want you to nuke kita though ! | ||
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On April 03 2014 08:14 Vivax wrote: Toad doesn't have a vote. Or maybe kush stole his vote. All arguments I see as of now against him are 1. activity 2. he didn't push hopeless enough for your liking 3. some conclusion-less observations from hopeless which are more about his arguments on others rather than why he should be scum Until he gets in here and goes through my hermeneutic endless circle of being questioned to death until I'm satisfied I'm not scumreading him for that. Well, you should know that activity is a big tell  Regarding point number 2, it seems to me yesterday that a lot of people wanted to lynch Slam or gumshoe by default, and would have been glad to welcome a nice case on Hopeless. I think Toad is perfectly able to push a lynch, and I'm expecting town Toad to argue his Hopeless lynch against rayn lynch. So that's why he didn't push it enough for my liking. Town was looking for scum yesterday, and for example I feel right now I couldn't stop rayn lynch because of the lack of credible alternatives. A policy lynch on Slam or gumshoe was less attractive... | ||
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On April 03 2014 08:41 Hopeless1der wrote: so, whats the word jjd? you gonna nuke me? Do you propose a 1:1 for you and JJD ? (please don't it's a joke) | ||
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Anything you wanna ask, please do it now. Please pressure Toad if he pops up in the thread when you are around. Please nuke Slam. | ||
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On April 03 2014 08:59 Vivax wrote: Yeah, may I ask if you get what my beef is with hopeless' play or am I just seeing things?Did you form a read on him yet? During last night, I believed he was scum, but I think he's too obvious to be a real scum. Of course he is scummy, but he usually is. There are some posts I like from him, and his activity is correct. Also thrawn is kinda vouching for him, and they have been playing together for some time, so I don't want to worry too much about him yet. | ||
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On April 03 2014 20:09 Tehpoofter wrote: @DJO, Kita hopeless toad Do you think gum got a save on amiko? or do you think something else occurred? @austin you really think slam is going to flip town o.0? @Slam RIP bro good playing with you! @whoever gives out inventions: I want one! I personally don't think that amiko was targeted, so he was not saved imo, but there could be plenty of reasons for which there was no NK (no KP for mafia, hitting a vet, forgetting the NK, anything really), so I don't think you should bother with that. Toad, if you still around, I would like you to make a case on Hopeless. Otherwise your latest posts didn't impress me so I'm going to stay with my vote on you. | ||
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Now would be a good time to drop some votes folks ! | ||
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On April 04 2014 01:58 Hopeless1der wrote: Opportunistic posturing. I'm not trying to avoid responsibility for my vote but I am not all that confident that I am able to read Vivax, I'm mostly sheeping thread sentiment. People seem less inclined to vote Toad which means its between me/Vivax. My choice would be to lynch Toad if I get the chance. I'm not gonna move my vote from Toad, and we would be three of us if you vote him, meaning we need only to convince one or two people to lynch him. Come on ! | ||
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