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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 08 2014 19:14 GMT
#2757
Can you just give me like....rough sketch of where everyone is? You are currently of the belief that Poofter is le mafia? Or someone but unsure?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 08 2014 19:39 GMT
#2759
Okay. I guess the 12 hours thing is fine, but it would be nice to have thoughts from you. We're in an odd sort of bottleneck with only a few people and a tiny town circle and ... the people that may or may not be mafia aren't really producing new information.

Which both looks bad and is just bad for thread. I know I haven't been uber productive in the last 24, but more stuff to have new thoughts on would help us ALL be active and good for town and yesyesmanywingodoctorbutonlythetowndoctornotkitaconversiondoctor
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 00:48 GMT
#2776
On April 09 2014 09:37 thrawn2112 wrote:
anyone else, let me know if you want me to respond to hopeless case and specify what parts you want answers to.
I'd be sorta interested in the poofter stuff.

Poofter looking scummier than hopeless but also poofter super townie on D1 but also you wanting poofter nuked during the night (and, by the way, wanting kita not-nuked)
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 00:54 GMT
#2779
no not that bit
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 00:55 GMT
#2780
Or, to be more specific, I was talking about the bit that you talked about, and not the red/blue bits.

bits bits
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 01:38 GMT
#2783
There is NO LIMIT to paranoia.

I just wrote 2/3 of a big post about you going kita town --> i dunno about kita --> thanks for nuking kita so I didn't have to have a read, as well as "hopeless for original scum, poofter for conversion, let's nuke the conversion" which is the opposite of how I've been thinking (get rid of original scum first, because we KNOW they're going to have scummy powers/be the converters).

I dunno. You're playing a pretty solid game if you're mafia. There are little things that keep bugging me, but nothing large like kush's posts, and nothing that really weaves together into a scummy tapestry.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 15:37 GMT
#2787
Happy with this.

##vote: Hopeless1der

Amiko trying to figure out the game. thrawn trying to figure out the game. Both a little paranoid about me when scum likely needs a mislynch and needs maximum support, needs friends.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 16:00 GMT
#2788
Amiko, when you say you weren't as townie on poof's D1 as everyone else, what do you mean?

His D1 was the one I didn't like, it was his N1/D2 that pulled me around.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 16:00 GMT
#2789
IT'S NOT SUPER IMPORTANT BUT I KEEP LOOKING BACK AT THINGS JUST IN CASE BECAUSE DESPITE SAYING HAPPY WITH THIS I'M STILL GONNA BE A LITTLE PARANOID AND SO MAYBE SHOULD JUST PULL ON STRINGS
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 16:07 GMT
#2792
(and kita was a conversion)
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 16:08 GMT
#2795
That bit where I say he looked super townie on D1 is me saying thrawn's thoughts. I do that without quoting sometimes. It should basically read:

"I am interested in the poofter stuff. The poofter stuff where you, thrawn, had Poofter looking scummier than hopeless but also had poofter super townie on D1 but also wanted poofter nuked during the night (and, by the way, wanting kita not-nuked)"

It's my presentation of his stuff, not my own stuff. I ain't want no poofter nuke last night.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 17:36 GMT
#2799
On April 10 2014 02:16 Amiko wrote:
@Austin
Did you have any thoughts on the d1 voting pattern I mentioned above?
(Kush, Kita, and Hopeless all voted for rayn d1)
Based on kitaman's flip, he was town D1, so we'd be looking at hopeless and Kush together, with kita pushing a case he legitimately believed in.

Lemme go check timing. If kita pushes rayn first, they may just be hopping on what looks like a decent case against someone who's dangerous. Also unsure if rayn has magical kush reads or anything, I believe that he reads certain players better than others, may have been dangerous for kush if he's caught kush in the past.

One sec
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 17:36 GMT
#2800
On April 10 2014 02:33 Tehpoofter wrote:
I'm sorry boys I'm not going to have the energy to catch up but I've read this whole day. I see we nuked Kita was anyone else on the block? Do we think there is 1 or 2?

I appreciate the defense and agree its original scum left most likely (again I've missed a decent chunk of the thread) if we don't have any reason to doubt Austin's status as he was a green check and amiko would have had to nuke his teammate in a situation where the next day he could win its between thrown and hopeless.

Hopefully there is just one left seems its on hopeless over thrown.


I might be around if I don't go back to sleep when meds kick in. For now I'll go with consensus but try to check in read cause this is a mega uninformed vote on potential lylo so ill do my best to be informed read the previous night

##vote: Hopeless1der

(Bolding on an iPad is the worst)
PLEASE DO NOT BE SCUM I WILL #SADSQUAWK AND #RAGESQUAWK AT YOU AND IT WILL BE LOUD

Hope illness clears up
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 17:42 GMT
#2802
On April 10 2014 02:33 Tehpoofter wrote:
I'm sorry boys I'm not going to have the energy to catch up but I've read this whole day. I see we nuked Kita was anyone else on the block? Do we think there is 1 or 2?

I appreciate the defense and agree its original scum left most likely (again I've missed a decent chunk of the thread) if we don't have any reason to doubt Austin's status as he was a green check and amiko would have had to nuke his teammate in a situation where the next day he could win its between thrown and hopeless.

Hopefully there is just one left seems its on hopeless over thrown.


I might be around if I don't go back to sleep when meds kick in. For now I'll go with consensus but try to check in read cause this is a mega uninformed vote on potential lylo so ill do my best to be informed read the previous night

##vote: Hopeless1der

(Bolding on an iPad is the worst)
There couldn't have been 4 alive, and 2 are gone. Hopefully just the 1, or we're in big trouble. The numbers would depend on exactly what they do at night, and whether converting is something that can be RBed or not. If only Kush could convert, we should just have 1. If ALL can convert, we have 1 or 2 depending on RB.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 18:00 GMT
#2805
Amiko, I got distracted by Hopeless's D2.

I don't think the votes are damning. Kush just squatted on rayn from the very start, doesn't appear to care. Hopeless doesn't vote rayn until a little ways after kita drops his biggish case post, and rayn and kita fight a bit. If you want to both vote someone, your votes are spread out, you have a hidden vote unclaimed, and hopeless gets in at a nice time ---> pick a side between rayn/kita, vote, done. He says he wasn't townie on rayn previously, but otherwise, there's nothing really about rayn's ALIGNMENT in hopeless's filter D1, so makes sense as an opportunistic vote once rayn and kita start going at it.

i AM weirded out by Hopeless's D2 mentions of Kita though. He wants to lynch kita to avenge rayn ---> doesn't like JJD's accusations against kita + thinks all rayn voters town (so had both kush town AND kita, who would now be converted we think, town) ---> durdling around with kita during kita and vivax sniping at each other ---> "Kita seems like he's working towards a town-oriented goal" (as part of a reads list)

Especially this post:
On April 03 2014 01:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
it just feels so strange to see kush this well put together. At any rate, I dont think any scum were on rayn right now.

I dont like JJD's accusations against kitaman.
"Kita knows I'm town" when kita essentially said he'd push the low tier players and gave examples of who those players would be.
"Kita retconned his case on rayn". I fundamentally disagree with this statement because Kita's case relied on the fact that he tried to get rayn to look into his meta and rayn refused to do so. It was an ongoing process that rayn never pursued him and that is what kita found scummy about rayn.

So I'd want to lynch JJD for tunneling kita while being completely sure that he's right every step of the way. He never wavers, never reconsiders.

I'd also lynch gumshoe for actively refusing to play this game. This should be self explanatory.
Just chainsaw defending kita, attacking JJD out of the blue for the kita suspicion, when Hopeless himself seems to have been fine with a kita lynch to start the day, and ends the day at "kita pursuing town-oriented goals", which isn't like...KITA IS THE TOWNIEST TOWN. It's a LOT of defense for a guy you don't seem to be super townie on.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 18:05 GMT
#2809
Yeah, thanks for actually making me look at vote timing and hopeless's filter

SERIOUSLY I SWORE I WAS GONNA READ HOPELESS'S FILTER AT SOME POINT
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 21:03 GMT
#2825
gg and I am sorry

I got converted after the kush lynch but before the kita nuke. I was all ready for glorious town victory and then had to be all red for a day.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 21:13 GMT
#2835
I said some stuff after being added to the scum QT, but I guess more thoughts and discussion now.

First, thanks for hosting. I actually went and watched the recent reboot of Dr. Who after the last Dr. Who game, and it was a little more fun knowing something about the characters and whatnot. And getting to be Amy.

Second, having been on both sides of the fence, I think there needs to be SOME information about what scum is doing, or at the very least some way to stop it consistently. A slightly less-powered town and scum not having the ability to take factional actions, perhaps, or the Doctor not being in the game, and a future version of the doctor visiting on D3 or D4 with a little information on how Cybermen are upgrading folks, maybe. Without notifications OR an idea of exactly how the scum team was working, it was going to be very very difficult for town in the final couple lynches.

I don't think the game was imbalanced as set up, a lot of things just...happened. Kita saw djo N1 and then got converted immediately. I would have RBed kita, but was RBed by vivax. A split second where if we'd lynched kush and nuked kita, we MAYBE win the game at the end of D3 before I'm converted going into N3? Rayn...helping lynch himself. Just a lot of little things swung this game to being somewhat easy to close out as scum. The ONLY possible balance issue I can see is that scum get 1 KP and 1 conversion per night, which is a chunk. Town gets 2 RBs, and scum starts off with only 1 member, but that's a lot of scum firepower. I think in balancing out a weak weak start for the cybermen and a powerful town with a LOT of scum juice feels like it snowballs one side or the other, and maybe both sides being toned down would make it less swingy?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 21:15 GMT
#2837
On April 10 2014 06:11 Vivax wrote:
Ah, amiko gonna be converted. My mistake ^^.

So I save austin N1 and you don't let me win. This will not be forgotten.
You had to be the shot

Just in case you roleblocked someone doing something neat, and also because why wouldn't scum shoot you when you were scummy on kush, kita was attacking you, you wanted kita nuked, kita flipped scum, and you had the JK role? There was no way not to shoot you.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 09 2014 21:20 GMT
#2839
Oh, who didn't request fakeclaims? I was really worried for a bit that I was the only person who wanted to have fun with that and had accidentally sicced a bunch of fanatic fakeclaim-wanters on the hosts.

WHY DID YOU GUYS NOT EACH GET LIKE 2-3 FAKECLAIMS?
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