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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 19:19 GMT
#1965
On April 05 2014 04:18 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 04:16 austinmcc wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:05 austinmcc wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
austin. what changed with the vivax read is all the stuff he posted after i was yelling at him. all the kita vs vivax stuff
Are you now bubbling over with townie delight at him? You seemed scummy on him for particular things he'd done - his D1 voting, his response to poofter, blah blah.

Just the fact that you were liking kita/toad for scum and vivax was fighting the right way with kita = vivax more likely town?


yep
If kita flips town, vivax is the reddest red in redville?


no?
So vivax is town for the specific WAY he fought with kita? Not just for fighting with kita who you think is mafia?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 19:26 GMT
#1972
kush has weird posts on Kita, real weird. Think of kita as a person, his thought process is transparent, hopeless is tooscummytobescum and lynchbait. Lots of like...very randomly sure stuff on people he hasn't discussed TOO much. His comments on kita are strange throughout. REALLY WEIRD. JJD attacks kita, kush says JJD is "underestimating the fluidity of [kita's] reads D1."

Despite saying he doesn't know kita well, hasn't played with the guy much.

Just...look through kush's filter for kita and follow the trail. CURIOUS MAXIMUS.

Kush ALSO fails to comment at all on hopeless/vivax/JJD, even though he's been pushing Vivax during the day and is scummy on vivax and voting him. But then he drops off Vivax for being "engaged and shit" on D2, and says he's overestimating Vivax's town game. (KUSH DID NOT POST WITHIN LIKE 4:30 OF LYNCH, THIS IS NOT THE SAME AS HOPELESS POSTING BUT NOT COMMENTING ON THINGS. BUT THE VIVAX STUFF IS ODD, THE WAY HE JUST DUMPS HIS READ)

Kush tonight is possible scum on THRAWN, JJD, DJODREF, AMIKO, and POOFTER. Half the game is possible scum with no real reasoning. Then he jumps on Amiko for having "weak shit" to back up reads.

Some of this play is just kush. I don't have a good meta grasp, have not gone back and read games, should do that if alive D3. Kush's townieness essentially just stems from the claim and shot, and I don't like sorting people's alignments based on roles, I have used that to great effect as scum in themed games myself. KP + sekrit voting are questionable town powers.


Blah blah blah. Does anyone believe kush town/supertown based on NOT his role? We should chat! Because his filter raises some flags between his magically appearing N2 reads, all his stuff on Kita, and ... actually those are the biggest things for me.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 19:28 GMT
#1973
On April 05 2014 04:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 04:22 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:19 austinmcc wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:18 thrawn2112 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:16 austinmcc wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:05 austinmcc wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
austin. what changed with the vivax read is all the stuff he posted after i was yelling at him. all the kita vs vivax stuff
Are you now bubbling over with townie delight at him? You seemed scummy on him for particular things he'd done - his D1 voting, his response to poofter, blah blah.

Just the fact that you were liking kita/toad for scum and vivax was fighting the right way with kita = vivax more likely town?


yep
If kita flips town, vivax is the reddest red in redville?


no?
So vivax is town for the specific WAY he fought with kita? Not just for fighting with kita who you think is mafia?


I don't know if I think kita is mafia. but yes.


Well you wanted to lynch me yesterday and neither of us have posted much since then, so what changed?


If I wanted to lynch you yesterday I wouldn't have switched back to toad. As I said, I'm not sure.
But you wanted to lynch kita/toad.
On April 04 2014 05:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
i'm down for kita or towd
30 minutes before lynch.



Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 19:29 GMT
#1974
WHY WOULD YOU BE TOWNIE ON VIVAX WHO HAS BEEN FIGHTING WITH KITA AND WILLING TO LYNCH KITA WITH 30 MINUTES TO LYNCH AND NOW UNSURE ON KITA WHEN KITA REALLY HASN'T DONE ANYTHING AND I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE GOING

MAN, KITA'S N2 HAS BEEN SO TOWNIE, HE'S TOWNIE NOW

???????????
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 19:34 GMT
#1977
You were on kita with ~30 to go.

Posted you'd lynch kita or toad.

Swapped to toad 1 minute after that, with 32 minutes til lynch (in voting thread, no mention in main thread)

So you made the vote RIGHT AFTER SAYING YOU WANTED TO LYNCH KITA


And right before this you'd said kita was wrong on vivax, should be scumreading everyone based on his vivax logic, so you SHOULD be scummy on kita.

And now you're not sure about kita, when yesterday you were kita/toad, and toad was town, and kita hasn't really done anything, and this does not particularly make sense.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 19:35 GMT
#1979
ebwop:

WANTED TO LYNCH KITA

should read

"WERE WILLING TO LYNCH KITA OR TOAD, WHICH PROBABLY MEANS YOU WERE SCUMMY ON KITA STILL"
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 19:38 GMT
#1983
On April 05 2014 04:35 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 04:34 austinmcc wrote:
You were on kita with ~30 to go.

Posted you'd lynch kita or toad.

Swapped to toad 1 minute after that, with 32 minutes til lynch (in voting thread, no mention in main thread)

So you made the vote RIGHT AFTER SAYING YOU WANTED TO LYNCH KITA


And right before this you'd said kita was wrong on vivax, should be scumreading everyone based on his vivax logic, so you SHOULD be scummy on kita.

And now you're not sure about kita, when yesterday you were kita/toad, and toad was town, and kita hasn't really done anything, and this does not particularly make sense.


Wow
No that's not really wow. It's consistent with what he was saying, not last minute, and I don't get giant scum alarms from that ninja vote.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 19:49 GMT
#1985
On April 05 2014 04:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 04:36 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:19 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:16 austinmcc wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:05 austinmcc wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
austin. what changed with the vivax read is all the stuff he posted after i was yelling at him. all the kita vs vivax stuff
Are you now bubbling over with townie delight at him? You seemed scummy on him for particular things he'd done - his D1 voting, his response to poofter, blah blah.

Just the fact that you were liking kita/toad for scum and vivax was fighting the right way with kita = vivax more likely town?


yep
If kita flips town, vivax is the reddest red in redville?


lol I don't plan on flipping unless mafia shoots me based on my claim.


Thrawn, was it this post of mine that shifted your views?


no but it's posts like that one. I was already back to null reading you right before before the D2 deadline
Could you elucidate on this? It feels like you're either mafia or this thought process is difficult to follow, and we need to nail this down. Vivax, toad, and kita, starting from like partway through D2, could you explain what your thoughts were and when they shift?

It's strange for you to go from scummy on kita/toad, to now townie on kita when he hasn't really done anything, and there really isn't anything else from you. From D2 to now, from the kita/toad post to now, toad died and flipped town, and you're apparently townie on kita, which would leave you with just absolutely no scumreads/suspicions. That is CURIOUS from someone who is A CONCERN.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 19:53 GMT
#1986
i THINK i'm groovy with JJD?

He is willing to post a lot on some weird tangents, like me questioning him about slam being town, he gets active and asks kind of the right questions for a rose once Hopeless reveals his role. He's like...oddly insistent about Vivax revealing who he targeted, does NOT want to lynch toad (wants to lynch kita).

He's...very focused on roles and claims, I think D3 he needs to be pushed for more just regular reads, but he HAS been doing some of that when he talks about amiko, kita, some with hopeless before hopeless claim.

For right now, JJD is groovy with me, just less groovy than the folks I absolutely take off the list.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 20:00 GMT
#1993
On April 05 2014 04:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
I didn't say I'm currently townie on kita austin. the theme of this whole conversation is that I DONT KNOW what my read on kita is. if I had a read to give you I'd give it to you, but I simple don't. the kinds of posts I'm talking about like the one kita quoted, are the kinds of posts you yourself look for to try and town read people. it's the casual flippant conversational type of posts that seem more like a townie posting their immediate thoughts. I think the first time I notived kita making a post like that was at the D1 deadline, when some people started voting for gumshoe and kita made some comment about the wagon (like a disaproving, you guys are silly type of comment). So I find the way he converses with people to be townie. I just get a bad feeling about him because of his main D1 and D2 pushes. HENCE the confusion and my inability to commit to a kita read.
Okay.

One could suggest you put on your ... questionable logic hat, and go back in time to D2. Looking at Vivax/kitaman/toad, tell the thread how your thoughts develop on them as they post and whatnot.

Can do this D3 I guess, it's not necessary in this last hour, but....it is CONCERNING that you would want to lynch toad or kita, not be sure on kita, continue to be unsure on kita, and basically have spent the last 24 hours then with no real scumread and not developing one.

Town can lack scumreads, can do other things, whatever, but you seem adrift in a not-necessarily-townie-way. And that is possibly extra troubling when you go "Dear scum, I suck at scum, don't make me scum, you don't want me scum."
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 20:07 GMT
#1998
WRONG DOCTOR KITA
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 20:08 GMT
#2000
Not a claim, but a FLAVOR OBJECTION
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 20:09 GMT
#2003
Kita, without giving anything away, can you give more explanation to why you think full claiming is/isn't a good idea?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 20:11 GMT
#2005
On April 05 2014 05:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 05:09 austinmcc wrote:
Kita, without giving anything away, can you give more explanation to why you think full claiming is/isn't a good idea?


Don't see the benefit at this point.
There appear to be a number of people who do. You're also...on a lot of suspicious lists. Mainly because you're kinda suspicious over there. It's also unlikely we have TOO many cycles left in which to get things right, if we mislynch D3 that's 3 mislynches plus a shot on a townie plus a nuke on a townie.

Which is...a lot of dead townies.

I can think of certain reasons for you not to claim, but...........hmmmm. Maybe don't.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 20:16 GMT
#2010
I'm more concerned that we're somewhat sticking to Nightmare in Silver and you're either mafia or only certain people can be converted and you're one of em
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 20:18 GMT
#2011
I also have other concerns for later
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 20:23 GMT
#2014
Stupid random musings in case of death, still looking at hopeless and then kita further:

If we see dudes die tonight, for realsies, then look over Amiko's D1 suspicions. We don't know whether a kill was stopped N1, we don't know HOW, but if we have a kill tonight then we probably should have had one N1. If Amiko WAS the shot, POSSIBLE that he's got a suspicion on scum, because otherwise i might expect the shot on someone else who looked townie.

If hopeless's role is for serious, and it would appear to be, that doesn't magically make him town. If JJD does something particularly TOWNIE as rose, especially something like inoculating folks against conversion or whatever, then it might be good for scum to have a way to track rose's actions. Whatever, just don't sleep on hopeless. The role would become weaker once rose dies, but it's still INFO for scum, and maybe still helpful, and blah blah blah.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 20:26 GMT
#2018
Neato! Although this messes up something I was thinking of.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 20:27 GMT
#2019
Also that would make Hopeless's role less likely to be scum, in that hypothetical stuff above, as knowing after the night who the JK jailed is...unhelpful.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
April 04 2014 20:29 GMT
#2021
On April 05 2014 05:28 Amiko wrote:
@Vivax
Why you did not suspect austin when there was no kill and you had jailed him?
(I still think Austin is prety town though)
(He thinks I might have been the target)
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