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Vivax
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I mentioned this in a previous post. | ||
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Hopeless1der
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austinmcc
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On April 05 2014 07:24 Vivax wrote: Step away for a moment.Fuck's sake this game and its setup make me kinda angry, we know shit, the medic suicided, Toad didn't play, rayn voted for himself. We lose two blues in a night and hopeless just drives me crazy whenever I'm town in a game with him. I'm in an awful mood right now. We have a nuke, maybe. We need thrawn to actually do stuff since D1. We need Kita and Kush to join the fun. If they all do this within 12 hours or so, we have a lot to work with, and we can all be posting as well in that time or whatever. If they don't do this, we have nice, happy lynch targets. I think we've seriously narrowed down who can be un-converted mafia, and we clean that up and then work on who might have been converted. The claims and setup just get in the way of us finding people who are scummy. Thrawn is scummy for doing little since D1, and for seeming to take no stance on people who are important. Kita is scummy a little bit for just pushing people who are likely to town, and WAY MORE for how disorganized and uncoordinated town was D2 while Kita just sat back and let it happen. This is a thing that scumKita has done, from what I know of his scumplay (at least one game). He looks townie early, but then can't keep it up, and while he recognizes how thread is going/when direction is needed/when a strong presence is needed, he never steps in to provide. His late D2 play and N2 play make him pretty dang scummy for me. That's GAMEPLAY reasons, and then there's the tiny bit where in the episode references, the Doctor gets partially Cyberman-ified, and so it's a good town-sounding role to give scum. Kush has just generally been scummy except for popping off Gumshoe, imo. And that's based on nothing but the roleclaim. Otherwise, he's 40% of the votes on a questionable rayn lynch, and he doesn't really seem to be pushing things forward. Plus his interactions with kita are INCREDIBLY strange - I don't know kita, but this is how I imagine kita plays, and all sorts of kita-meta comments. Hopeless is also scummy for reasons, and maybe only scummy for claiming, but also maybe still scummy. PEW PEW PEW SCUM GONNA DIE TOWN GONNA WIN. Might be frustrating and confusing but we gonna win. | ||
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austinmcc
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Scum Hopeless, upon realizing he messed up in saying I targeted Kita last night, would NOT say the hosts told him they made a mistake, and would instead say Vivax was scum and try to go for him today, forcing a Hopeless v. Vivax lynch. MAYBE POSSIBLY It feels like an odd knee-jerk reaction from scum getting caught in a lie to immediately accuse the HOSTS of lying and then correcting themselves, rather than accuse MYSELF or VIVAX of lying. | ||
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Vivax
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Btw I found the game where kita pushed me when I was scum and of which I mentioned earlier that I notice differences to this one in the way he pushes me and generally plays the game. I know it's in part subjective but it's the storngest impression I got of kita's town play. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/414632-roulette-mini-mafia?user=kitaman27&view=all | ||
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Vivax
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On March 30 2014 15:54 kitaman27 wrote: lol you amuse me. But you have it backwards. I'm simply trying to gather the pieces for myself. The puzzle is mine to solve. As for your "web of disruption" post, it has a catchy name, but I'll respond once you come to an actual conclusion. thrawn is off my naughty list for the moment. People of interest: Tehpoofter seems to be asking questions that I don't find all that interesting. His initial vote of slam seems a bit forced. Amiko asking me or hope for the clarification doesn't seem scummy to me. We were probably just around. His lack of opinion and direction does appear scummy however. Hopeless with his "do i need to go through the motions of totes serious voting to get a response?" conveys a kind of "look at me doing someone" without actually coming to a conclusion other than that I'm useless slam...generally I try to ignore him and the last time I did so I believe he was mafia. Day one survivor claims are usually someone I would lynch, even if I thought they might be a survivor. My biggest worry is that he might be a trolly town who is willing to get lynched and doesn't care, but he wasn't willing to role claim when asked and shows signs of over frustration that doesn't appear genuine. I'll probably leave my vote on him, though we need to avoid the scenario where nobody is under pressure because the lynch is already decided. kush is someone who usually gets on my nerves early and hasn't done so yet, which is a concern. I seem to remember him playing mafia and acting completely reasonable, but I'll have to look back to familiarize myself with some of his more recent games. In my opinion, thrawn and hope both overreacted to the random vote, yet kush doesn't draw the same conclusion by only expressing suspicion of thrawn. If slam is a survivor, then kush being the first one to defend him may make sense as mafia if he knows his alignment. | ||
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Tehpoofter
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"You are Angie Maitland, sister of Artie Maitland. Luckily for you, Clara Oswald is your nanny, so you were able to travel to one of the greatest amusement parks in the galaxy, Hedgewick’s World of Wonders, and that’s pretty much all you’re known for. You win with the Town." I need to reread and look through everyone's claims but to understand Vivax=Jailor, Hopeless = Water amiko=Town Roleblock Kita=Doctor with unknown powers Kush = River song with a day shot + a double vote? JJD was Cop DJO was inventor Amiko got changed to a 1 shot vigi. So that leaves me and thrawn as Vt? Did I leave someone out? Also Were JJD and DJO lovers? Is that why they both died? I need to reread but they had the same last name and I thought someone's role said something about that... idk might be flavor and they just got 2KP. Also checking in that I didn't receive the scummometer but its an awesome name well done DJO. | ||
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Tehpoofter
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Kush and Kita really should full role claim. I have a theory that would be interesting in that Since there is so many blue powers when someone gets converted they get a 1 shot nuke... like kush did yesterday and amiko got today. Just something I was thinking about cause how crap this setup is kidna imbalanced for town otherwise assuming role claims are true. Like what kind of town role gets randomly turned into a day vigi? Anyways off to lunch? | ||
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austinmcc
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It's highly unlikely all claims are true, and if they are, it's likely there's stuff elsewhere to balance them out. | ||
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On April 03 2014 20:07 Tehpoofter wrote: I'm around, sadly not converted as apparently we lost our shrink and doctor. That sucks gum played it like that with the name thing. I thought it was interesting kush can do the vote thing and shoot during the day that's a pretty strong town role imo. I think you pointed this out thrawn. I think scum is somewhere between Vivax, Hopeless, Toad.... Vivax for reasons I've stated. Toad because he's claiming to not have a vote that counts and he can't die at night that is like the tree stump role on epic mafia which is kinda useless and easy to claim as mafia (I have done it in video mafia on several occasions) cause you never have to explain why you're alive and you can no vote and absolve yourself of all responsibility. (I've been busy with work and other games so haven't had time to dive but have we confirmed Toad's vote doesn't count?) Hopeless - I believe austin had a case on hopeless where he was around at day end voting on rayn after the claim saying it seemed fake without a cc. I was around then too and had been hard on rayn all day and wanted to get my vote off him to someone else (ended up on the doctor whoops) but still not on the claimed role. Town for me is thrawn, kush, austin, amiko (tenatively cause of the heal and he seems to be piecing the game together) On April 04 2014 05:41 Tehpoofter wrote: bah this role claim stuff would happen while I'm commuting and starting work.... @DJO why do you think djo's role is maf sided? ##unvote ##vote kitaman I'm not convinced any of the roles have to be blue even toads but if town lynches a third straight blue we're pretty much SoL. I mean, he has me, Toad and hopeless as scumreads. When he comes back he votes kita when that vote doesn't have any effect, doesn't try to move people from Toad to him. And most of all he says he's not convinced that all roles have to be blue but that's the reason he doesn't want to lynch his former scumread. | ||
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On April 05 2014 09:17 Vivax wrote: Oh, and even better first he already believes Toad's claim and says the role is fake and can easily be claimed by mafia, then he uses that as reasoning to not vote for him. EBWOP: Better formulated, he says at first that the role is useless and can be easily claimed by mafia, then he says he doesn't want to lynch Toad cause a third blue loss is bad for town or something (while his role was useless anyway) | ||
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kushm4sta
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Vivax
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On April 05 2014 10:23 kushm4sta wrote: i got a scumometer What does it do again? | ||
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kushm4sta
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kushm4sta
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also ca ni just post my role pm? | ||
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