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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 04 2014 19:35 GMT
#1980
On April 05 2014 04:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 04:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:28 austinmcc wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:24 thrawn2112 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:22 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:19 austinmcc wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:18 thrawn2112 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:16 austinmcc wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
[quote]

yep
If kita flips town, vivax is the reddest red in redville?


no?
So vivax is town for the specific WAY he fought with kita? Not just for fighting with kita who you think is mafia?


I don't know if I think kita is mafia. but yes.


Well you wanted to lynch me yesterday and neither of us have posted much since then, so what changed?


If I wanted to lynch you yesterday I wouldn't have switched back to toad. As I said, I'm not sure.
But you wanted to lynch kita/toad.
On April 04 2014 05:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
i'm down for kita or towd
30 minutes before lynch.





i only held that opinion at the exact time I made that post. iirc i unvoted kita pretty quickly


Reason?=


reason for what?

look I've never been sure about kita's alignment all game long. the times i've called him x or y alignment, i've never felt confident about it. he is the biggest question mark for me, because he generally talks in a townie way, but I always find his pushes to be.... beneath his ability? I've never read a kita case this game and thought "hmm, I agree with this case and now I think kita's target is scummier than before." And I feel like that is something that should happen if kita is town. BUT I think he just posts in a townie way. So it's not as black and white as "I want to lynch kita" even if that's what I said.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 04 2014 19:42 GMT
#1984
On April 05 2014 04:36 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 04:19 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:16 austinmcc wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:05 austinmcc wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
austin. what changed with the vivax read is all the stuff he posted after i was yelling at him. all the kita vs vivax stuff
Are you now bubbling over with townie delight at him? You seemed scummy on him for particular things he'd done - his D1 voting, his response to poofter, blah blah.

Just the fact that you were liking kita/toad for scum and vivax was fighting the right way with kita = vivax more likely town?


yep
If kita flips town, vivax is the reddest red in redville?


lol I don't plan on flipping unless mafia shoots me based on my claim.


Thrawn, was it this post of mine that shifted your views?


no but it's posts like that one. I was already back to null reading you right before before the D2 deadline
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 04 2014 19:55 GMT
#1988
I didn't say I'm currently townie on kita austin. the theme of this whole conversation is that I DONT KNOW what my read on kita is. if I had a read to give you I'd give it to you, but I simple don't. the kinds of posts I'm talking about like the one kita quoted, are the kinds of posts you yourself look for to try and town read people. it's the casual flippant conversational type of posts that seem more like a townie posting their immediate thoughts. I think the first time I notived kita making a post like that was at the D1 deadline, when some people started voting for gumshoe and kita made some comment about the wagon (like a disaproving, you guys are silly type of comment). So I find the way he converses with people to be townie. I just get a bad feeling about him because of his main D1 and D2 pushes. HENCE the confusion and my inability to commit to a kita read.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 04 2014 19:57 GMT
#1990
i haven't really pushed anyone yet lol
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 04 2014 20:01 GMT
#1994
"You are Artie Maitland, brother of Angie Maitland. Luckily for you, Clara Oswald is your nanny, so you were able to travel to one of the greatest amusement parks in the galaxy, Hedgewick’s World of Wonders, and that’s pretty much all you’re known for.

You win with the Town."
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 04 2014 20:44 GMT
#2039
can someone give me an easy to follow summary of all the claim stuff that happened before the D2 deadline? like the whole hopeless/vivax/jjd stuff? as well as the stuff related to those claims that have happened since?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 04 2014 20:56 GMT
#2051
i'm most interested in hearing kush's full claim. in fact I think i will be policy voting him until he posts it, becasue I don't think the sneaky extra D1 vote sistuation has been resolved adequately
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 04 2014 21:00 GMT
#2056
On April 05 2014 05:58 austinmcc wrote:
i'm still interested in vivax / kita / toad stuff from you.


can you specifcy what exactly you are looking for? because I think you are assuming I made some reads that I didn't
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 04 2014 21:07 GMT
#2064
ok..... according to djo's role he must give the item to a player

so who got the scumometer?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 04 2014 21:28 GMT
#2090
austin?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 05 2014 01:40 GMT
#2142
kush [post your role pm
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 05 2014 01:43 GMT
#2146
why didn't you inform town that your vote was going to count twice on D1?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 05 2014 01:47 GMT
#2150
On April 05 2014 10:45 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 10:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
why didn't you inform town that your vote was going to count twice on D1?


He did -.-

On another note I can see that being a town role so for now I'll roll with kush as town and guess at scum being kita/thrawn/poofter


no he didn't

and really? you think day vigs are town exclusive roles?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 05 2014 01:49 GMT
#2151
kush do you know if the check returns intantly?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 05 2014 01:58 GMT
#2157
i would prefer a check only on one of kita/me, especially if it's an insta-check
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 05 2014 02:15 GMT
#2162
poofter, really? Iirc you have included me in all of your top tier town groups? What's changed?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 05 2014 02:25 GMT
#2163
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 04 2014 08:02 Tehpoofter wrote:
So first off I'm looking at what we know so far no NK n1 3P survivor, shrink, doctor, Toad's role.
We also have other claims at being blue Watcher from hopeless, Kush says hes day vig plus double vote (you didnt use your power today I'm assuming based on the vote counts), Vivax, JJD some types of visiting roles. Also There is someone who gave a nuke to JJD as he said he didn't make it. So we're looking at assuming all roles are blue, 7 blue town power roles and a 3P survivor that seems insanely high to me unless mafia has some big role maybe kill + conversion and I would think points to there being 2+ on the first day or it doesn't seem very balanced. I'll say it now but I think one of the blue roles is most likely mafia, or at the least 3P. Now maybe thats not the case but that only leaves Me, Austin, Kita, DJO, Amiko Thrawn (I believe) and for me I think kita/Djo would be the only possible scum team there I mean Amiko maybe cause of Austin's case I could maybe see him being that constructed but it still reads town so doesn't ping as super scummy to me.


So my list of reads atm:

Town Hero: Tehpoofter
Town:
Thrawn
Austin

Blues: (I think one is scum hopeless claim is the most townie cause it seems silly for scum to claim when they did.) Kush reaction was good to gum even though he shot the medic I'd have done the same as town although his role does seem really strong. Vivax probably the most scummy claim wise cause he was reluctant to give up his visit. But I was going to move my vote off him based on play so I still give him town points. JJD Seemed to try to get hopeless on that whole fakeclaim thing thats the 3rd occurance of him really pushing a scum read on something slip like to me it pings scummy because of my background as I highlighted in a previous post but it may be different on the forums.
Kush
Vivax
Hopeless
JJD

Neutral Pile:
Amiko - Has seemed very town in his posts but austin's case against him makes me question how much of it is off the cuff and not preplanned... its easy to look town if you know whats going on. I don't fully believe this read and would love to have more interaction with Amiko but if all blue claims are real it has to be someone else so he goes to neutral as I'm stronger on thrawn/Austin atm being town.
DJO - He hasn't really done much of note for me I was making this list and in my head thought "idk where I stand on DJO tbh" so its null for me and hes not a blue role claim so he stands at neutral. I will try to reread his filter but probably cant get around to it for 6-7 hours as I'm at work and want to catch up on other games as this one is night phase atm.

Most likely Scum:
Kita
- I think he has pushed on two lynches rayn first then vivax if vivax is town this makes him look even scummier in my eyes. He pushed on both their lynches later in the day after I had already been pushing on both from the start of the day he also calls me null when if we're in the same mindset wouldn't he think me more town he doesn't even mention our similar pushes in his reads. Now for me I like that he pushed on those people but he has been around at both EoD when I've been hesitant and reconsidered both my reads and he didn't with rayn or vivax just left his vote where it is. So to me it seems like someone scummy hoping on an established wagon to push someone into a lynch and not reconsidering at EoD.


like based on that post i don't know why you'd like to check me and kita
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 05 2014 02:37 GMT
#2164
I think tehpoofter was converted n1. I just counted his posts and his D1/N1 posts account for 71% of his posts this game. he stopped being the super inquisitive towny guy he started out as. during D1 I remember thinking that he probably had submitted the most "real" content to the thread in terms of discussing reads and layong out theories, etc. After N1 all this stopped, and his scumhunting has been largely reduced to claim speculation.

So what say you tehpoofter?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 05 2014 02:39 GMT
#2165
also, I can no longer feel that special "tehpoofter" tingly feeling that lets me know he is 100% townie
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 05 2014 02:56 GMT
#2168
austin my memory doesn't work that way. you are going to have to ask very specific questions for me to even have a chance at remembering what i was thinking. like for example, you just claimed that i said I liked tehpoofter's points on vivax from D2. I have no idea what you are talking about here, I don't remember reading anything tehpoofter said about vivax during D2

although tbh, i'd prefer not to even have this conversation. So how about you give me 24 hours and if I'm not super townie again we can talk?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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