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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 20 2014 09:42 GMT
#1741
sometimes. average is about 2 weeks i think? but most of the games use IML
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
March 20 2014 09:45 GMT
#1742
On March 20 2014 18:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
sometimes. average is about 2 weeks i think? but most of the games use IML


So does town win like every game?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 20 2014 09:46 GMT
#1743
@Holyflare

I don't think DP is going to get lynched today, and I would certainly not vote him at the moment.
I'm surprised you didn't really mention me yet as I have him as town right now (and also because I'm a real potential lynch for today).
Do you really expect people to lynch DP today ? If yes, please tell me who do you expect to join your wagon, because I certainly I'm not.
Also I want you to give your views about the most likely lynch targets for today, i.e. GT, poof and me.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 20 2014 09:46 GMT
#1744
no they are pretty bad
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 20 2014 09:48 GMT
#1745
On March 20 2014 18:36 Holyflare wrote:
Poofter wtf are you saying he made a case on you and then questioned you. At least say what's meh about it instead of generalisations



He questioned me before the case.... that was what I was getting at. I think you're wrong on him being mafia. Sorry I was trying to quote it but its super long. Basically I feel like hes trying to figure out the game he is pushing in weird directions but I think pushing hard is more town than mafia. If hes mafia hes sticking his neck out REALLY far on the wrong people that are going to flip town.... would suck to get caught like that on day 1. Day 1 scum IMO are people not pushing super hard. Cases like yours HF I think are better suited for day 2-3.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 20 2014 09:50 GMT
#1746
As far as scum is concerned I'm going to bw here onto GT I think his content early was just enough to skate by I see a link between him and Hopeless but Hopeless isnt getting votes and I dont want towns votes to be spread then and get hammered by mafia at the end of the day.

##Vote GT paint photo to come
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 20 2014 09:50 GMT
#1747
oh god 20+ pages I have to read (I wasn't reading very closely last night, so I'm at about page 66).
Computer says mafia
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 20 2014 09:53 GMT
#1748
[image loading]



Just fyi I have my vote for Hopeless on the ready I feel both are good flips and likely to be mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 20 2014 09:54 GMT
#1749
On March 20 2014 18:46 Djodref wrote:
@Holyflare

I don't think DP is going to get lynched today, and I would certainly not vote him at the moment.
I'm surprised you didn't really mention me yet as I have him as town right now (and also because I'm a real potential lynch for today).
Do you really expect people to lynch DP today ? If yes, please tell me who do you expect to join your wagon, because I certainly I'm not.
Also I want you to give your views about the most likely lynch targets for today, i.e. GT, poof and me.


I do not care whether he is getting lynched today or not I'm pointing out the obvious crappy wool he is pulling over your eyes. It is easy to look like a towny when you know alignments. Say, if you're town and everyone else reads someone as scummy it's easy to say "but wait these things come from towny aha"! Even worse still he doesn't directly say that he thinks you are towny which gives him an out to talk about you as scum later.

GT looked towny for his case but the things he said around it "stop" this useless talk when we were getting into detail about his read on me and his talk about rayn are scummy as hell, coupled with what i said avout him earlier he looks quite likely to be mafia

Poof was initially newbie video mafia read, now he's looking more scummy, especially after disagreeing about the read on dp and calling it meh but not stating why, he even pointed out a part he didn't like for not making sense but was correct which is very odd.

Not read you tbh will do it at a computer later
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 20 2014 09:55 GMT
#1750
On March 20 2014 02:08 Giggletummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 01:50 Palmar wrote:
Giggle, why did you not post even a summary or a hint of your thoughts on holyflare before leaving the thread last night? All you left was one quote from HF you "liked" I'm not even sure if that's meant to say you think it was a legit or a sarcastic "like".
planned on actually posting my case. Not gonna go, "next time on giggletummy posts a case, we took a look at holyflare's reasoning in post 458 and you'll be shocked at what we discovered!"


I don't think that's a valid reason. Scum doesn't give themselves away every post. If you truly feel as strongly as you seem to have been implying at the time, there is no reason why you can't say "Holyflare is mafia because of x". These huge post by post cases are generally full of fluff with one good point in them.

I don't believe you couldn't at least say something about the your case before you left, in fact, dropping the vote and leaving is basically great if you're mafia and can get away with it, because that way no one can call you out on bad logic behind the vote, yet you can later claim "but I was trying to lynch HF so I'm totally doing stuff".
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 20 2014 09:57 GMT
#1751
On March 20 2014 02:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
i'd probably lynch out of this group right now

4. djodref
6. VisceraEyes
8. Vivax
15. Alakaslam


This guy is mafia. He simply wants to lynch everyone that is lurking. Better not try to lynch active players, they might call him out.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 20 2014 09:58 GMT
#1752
On March 20 2014 02:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
hopeless is town so i dont care about that question.


I don't think hopeless is scum, or at least I don't think we should lynch him today but you're waaayy too certain about this.

I guess we should take his word for it though
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 20 2014 09:59 GMT
#1753
On March 20 2014 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 02:45 Palmar wrote:
On March 20 2014 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palamr Giggletummy not posting a case right after promising to do so is not alignment indicative. There is no reason for mafia to clearly promise posting a case and then just not do it. They know they will be called out of it so what's the point? If mafia calls someone scum they know they are expected to post reasoning for it. It's not like he did not know what to say and just left because he could not follow up his earlier post.

I think it's bad logic to think so.


rayn you're a dumbass.

Mafia knows they get called out on contradictions, posting reads with no reasoning, lurking and various other things THEY STILL DO. All of these things are really obvious and can be avoided very easily. Yet we still lynch scum based on them all the time.

My logic is great. Unless GT flips town in which case it was you bad logic that led to the lynch and I had nothing to do with it.

What i am trying to say is that the act in itself is not alignment indicative. The reasons behind them might be. You know, basic stuff.


The reasons behind them is that it's really fucking hard to create legitimate cases as mafia, so they give up on it all the time and put it off. It's like homework. Mafia doesn't like homework, they like partying and shooting people.
Computer says mafia
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 20 2014 10:01 GMT
#1754
you are still butt mad about me not giving you #3 spot
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 20 2014 10:02 GMT
#1755
On March 20 2014 18:48 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 18:36 Holyflare wrote:
Poofter wtf are you saying he made a case on you and then questioned you. At least say what's meh about it instead of generalisations



He questioned me before the case.... that was what I was getting at. I think you're wrong on him being mafia. Sorry I was trying to quote it but its super long. Basically I feel like hes trying to figure out the game he is pushing in weird directions but I think pushing hard is more town than mafia. If hes mafia hes sticking his neck out REALLY far on the wrong people that are going to flip town.... would suck to get caught like that on day 1. Day 1 scum IMO are people not pushing super hard. Cases like yours HF I think are better suited for day 2-3.


Well this is an outright lie

Case: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=43#855

Dp filter where it happens: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?user=DarthPunk&page=6

0 questions before case
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 20 2014 10:04 GMT
#1756
I will probs die before day 2 bro gotta get the hard scum reads down
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 20 2014 10:05 GMT
#1757
On March 20 2014 03:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
But I have to wonder. What is he expecting from me that I must be scum because I'm not already tearing it up. After all, I'm among the first people in the thread in spite of my early disappearance. I was the first to Paint a Painting. THAT early in the game, I'd say most of that stuff is more town-indicative than scum-indicative.


The bolded is great logic, I can never doubt VE in this game ever because of that.

I disagree with VE's read on poof. I don't think anything he's done gives me any reason to believe he's town. I'm not entirely sure it makes him scum, but I'm having a really hard time understanding why he omitted the people he did, he hasn't come to the thread and explained it either.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 20 2014 10:06 GMT
#1758
On March 20 2014 19:01 thrawn2112 wrote:
you are still butt mad about me not giving you #3 spot

Yes, but it's also valid mad.

I'm super town and I want you to say I'm super town or I swear to god I will lynch you.
Computer says mafia
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 20 2014 10:11 GMT
#1759
you are though! lol. remember when I said I was hesitant to call you town because I was looking for something that screamed 'palmar is town?' you misprepresented this as me saying I was looking to see you talk to yourself but don't be stupid, that's not what I meant. I was looking for a single, really good, damned townie reason to call you townie because my guess is that your scum play might be better than my ability to read you, so I needed a really good reason to not worry about you. ironically that reason ended up being our earlier conversation when you were grilling me over the town reads, that interaction felt super genuine and i have not doubted your townieness ever since that conversation
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 20 2014 10:11 GMT
#1760
So I'm supertown and you promise to pledge your vote to me for the rest of the game?
Computer says mafia
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