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On March 20 2014 05:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
rayn I'd like you to explain why you think thrawn is town. HF raised a really good point about thrawn leaving DP off his PoE list earlier and I don't really know how you missed that. It's pretty blatant.
Seriously I'm getting like no respect this game.
My point about thrawn's third town read being absolute horseshit is far better.
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On March 20 2014 05:59 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 05:57 Palmar wrote:On March 20 2014 05:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
rayn I'd like you to explain why you think thrawn is town. HF raised a really good point about thrawn leaving DP off his PoE list earlier and I don't really know how you missed that. It's pretty blatant. Seriously I'm getting like no respect this game. My point about thrawn's third town read being absolute horseshit is far better. Palmar you haven't mentioned a single point I've raised about anyone or anything. I don't care if you're butthurt about not being listened to, at least you're being townread for it. I'm being scumread by people who should know better and you don't hear me bitching.
Who is scumreading you?
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I'm counting hopeless's vote for me as he sheeped my mspaint picture.
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On March 20 2014 06:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
What are you talking about rayn? Talk to me if you have a problem with me, not Palmar. Palmar's read on me is shite.
What is my read on you?
I'm curious, cause I don't really have one at the moment.
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Thrawn is mafia for his 3rd townread. I don't believe for a second that anyone following the thread could possibly have his third strongest townread at the time on poof who basically said nothing at the time. There was more than enough content in the thread at the time to come up with a reasonable third townread. Not to mention his first 2 townreads was basically just copying thread sentiment (koshi/rayn). And when I pushed him for not including me he had no reason to think I'm mafia, just that one random list with little explanations from poof is better than everything I had posted up to that point based on different expectations of our play.
It's also super interesting and should not be forgotten that poof's venn diagram was missing some pretty obvious people, I think most notably hopeless and giggle, and it included VE who had at the time basically done jack shit. I'm not entirely sure it makes him scum and apparently he knows VE, but it's worth mentioning.
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On March 20 2014 07:58 thrawn2112 wrote:
you're so dumb palamr. everything you say about me is 100% related to your own pride and my reads not lining up with what you think they should be. earlier you said "there are right answers," of there aren't any right answers.
also what is up with
"thrawn is scum for having the two top town reads that everyone else has"
"thrawn is scum for his controversial tehpoofter townread"
and neither of those things are even scummy
It's how you form the reads that doesn't make any sense at all.
I did not say you were scum for having koshi/rayn as your top town reads, I pointed out that it was just going along with thread sentiment but it's not the main point.
I just don't believe that you can have a townread on poof based on that if you've read the entire thread, post for post.
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On March 20 2014 09:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Is giggletummy even around? if he fucked off we should lynch him.
Thank you based town hero DP before you started posting I was unsure.
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On March 20 2014 08:56 Djodref wrote:
I have read the whole thread again
I don't believe you. The thread is very long.
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oh god 20+ pages I have to read (I wasn't reading very closely last night, so I'm at about page 66).
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On March 20 2014 02:08 Giggletummy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 01:50 Palmar wrote:
Giggle, why did you not post even a summary or a hint of your thoughts on holyflare before leaving the thread last night? All you left was one quote from HF you "liked" I'm not even sure if that's meant to say you think it was a legit or a sarcastic "like". planned on actually posting my case. Not gonna go, "next time on giggletummy posts a case, we took a look at holyflare's reasoning in post 458 and you'll be shocked at what we discovered!"
I don't think that's a valid reason. Scum doesn't give themselves away every post. If you truly feel as strongly as you seem to have been implying at the time, there is no reason why you can't say "Holyflare is mafia because of x". These huge post by post cases are generally full of fluff with one good point in them.
I don't believe you couldn't at least say something about the your case before you left, in fact, dropping the vote and leaving is basically great if you're mafia and can get away with it, because that way no one can call you out on bad logic behind the vote, yet you can later claim "but I was trying to lynch HF so I'm totally doing stuff".
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On March 20 2014 02:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
i'd probably lynch out of this group right now
4. djodref
6. VisceraEyes
8. Vivax
15. Alakaslam
This guy is mafia. He simply wants to lynch everyone that is lurking. Better not try to lynch active players, they might call him out.
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On March 20 2014 02:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
hopeless is town so i dont care about that question.
I don't think hopeless is scum, or at least I don't think we should lynch him today but you're waaayy too certain about this.
I guess we should take his word for it though 
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On March 20 2014 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 02:45 Palmar wrote:On March 20 2014 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palamr Giggletummy not posting a case right after promising to do so is not alignment indicative. There is no reason for mafia to clearly promise posting a case and then just not do it. They know they will be called out of it so what's the point? If mafia calls someone scum they know they are expected to post reasoning for it. It's not like he did not know what to say and just left because he could not follow up his earlier post.
I think it's bad logic to think so. rayn you're a dumbass. Mafia knows they get called out on contradictions, posting reads with no reasoning, lurking and various other things THEY STILL DO. All of these things are really obvious and can be avoided very easily. Yet we still lynch scum based on them all the time. My logic is great. Unless GT flips town in which case it was you bad logic that led to the lynch and I had nothing to do with it. What i am trying to say is that the act in itself is not alignment indicative. The reasons behind them might be. You know, basic stuff.
The reasons behind them is that it's really fucking hard to create legitimate cases as mafia, so they give up on it all the time and put it off. It's like homework. Mafia doesn't like homework, they like partying and shooting people.
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On March 20 2014 03:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
But I have to wonder. What is he expecting from me that I must be scum because I'm not already tearing it up. After all, I'm among the first people in the thread in spite of my early disappearance. I was the first to Paint a Painting. THAT early in the game, I'd say most of that stuff is more town-indicative than scum-indicative.
The bolded is great logic, I can never doubt VE in this game ever because of that.
I disagree with VE's read on poof. I don't think anything he's done gives me any reason to believe he's town. I'm not entirely sure it makes him scum, but I'm having a really hard time understanding why he omitted the people he did, he hasn't come to the thread and explained it either.
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On March 20 2014 19:01 thrawn2112 wrote:
you are still butt mad about me not giving you #3 spot
Yes, but it's also valid mad.
I'm super town and I want you to say I'm super town or I swear to god I will lynch you.
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So I'm supertown and you promise to pledge your vote to me for the rest of the game?
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Well can you at least vote for giggletummy and say you used my reasons to do it so I can call rayn bad?
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What's the point in you saying I'm supertown if you're not gonna sheep my reads?
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