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On March 19 2014 14:44 Vivax wrote: Hopeless cause he didn't consider HF could be joking with his initial posts, and immediately proceeded to call him scum for it. HF's first post on DP was obviously a joke, how do you conclude that the second one has to be serious so quickly, no questions asked. I for myself didn't think DP was really a scumread until HF started calling hopeless scum as well.
This is probably the best point about Hopeless anyone has made.
Then again, hopeless's reads are pretty good so idk.
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On March 19 2014 17:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Tehpoofters first post also smells bad for me, totally wishy washy with easy reads and gives out the VE is scum because he hasnt been playing when VE didnt even post 5 posts so far. And after that he says its a fake read but continues pushing it.
He also ignored Hopeless and Giggle who I think both have posted more than VE. But I guess that can be explained by this guy apparently knowing VE.
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There's something about HF. He for the most part looks like town but every once in a while he posts something that's sorta off.
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On March 19 2014 18:19 Koshi wrote: Ok I am back alive. Going to bitch about the modkill after the game I guess. Vivax pretty scummy atm. We will see where he brings us.
I am going for a reread later I think.
Why? As I said I think his point about Hopeless is probably the best made so far.
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thrawn who are your top 3 town reads and why?
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(hint: there is a correct answer).
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On March 19 2014 18:37 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 18:22 Palmar wrote: There's something about HF. He for the most part looks like town but every once in a while he posts something that's sorta off. I can't really comment on Holyflare anymore. He is so deeply tunnelled and pissed me off so epicly that I can't make unbiased judgements of his alignment.
Tbf it's not like you've posted anything of value. The main reason I'm not lynching you atm is just activity alone. And I think almost none of the weird things hf has said are directly in relation to his assessment of you. But I may be wrong I sorta skipped some of your argument
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I'm amazed you think tehpoofter looks better than me.
I agree on Koshi and rayn, although you didn't get the correct reasoning for Koshi's alignment. The reason Koshi is town is that during the whole Coag/rayn thing he was actively trying to move the thread on from that argument. I think rayn is town so there is literally no reason for scum to try to stop an argument between what seem to be two townies.
This basically means that Koshi should be everyone's favorite townread at the moment.
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The above post is @thrawn
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On March 19 2014 18:56 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 18:52 Palmar wrote: I'm amazed you think tehpoofter looks better than me.
I agree on Koshi and rayn, although you didn't get the correct reasoning for Koshi's alignment. The reason Koshi is town is that during the whole Coag/rayn thing he was actively trying to move the thread on from that argument. I think rayn is town so there is literally no reason for scum to try to stop an argument between what seem to be two townies.
This basically means that Koshi should be everyone's favorite townread at the moment. better doesn't = townier  so no, i do not think tehpoofter looks "better" than you. i think he is more likely to be town than you.
Based on what?
I think you're full of shit if you think this, because there is no way you think the guy who popped into the thread and left a few reads based on almost nothing while happily ignoring two people who very well could be scum and had posted more than VE (giggle and hopeless).
So based on this I can only assume you have some solid reason for not thinking I'm town, because it's clear that it's not tehpoofter's content that deserves him to be more of a townread than I am, so it must be my content.
So tell me, why am I not town?
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On March 19 2014 19:10 thrawn2112 wrote: it's nothing about your content, it's about my expectations of your play compared to my expectations of tehpoofter's play
and no, i have never said you aren't town, i've never said anything about what I think about your alignment. tbh i prefer to keep it that way.
What expectations have I failed to live up to?
You can't just claim shit like this without explaining what you mean. Sure I understand you don't expect poofter to be some amazing mass-posting supertownie, but I don't see how even if you give him a "noob" status he has fully lived up to expectations, so my only reasonable conclusion is that I have somehow not lived up to your expectations of me.
So, what are those expectations?
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I don't think Vivax is, his post was pretty solid.
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On March 19 2014 19:20 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 19:15 Palmar wrote:On March 19 2014 19:10 thrawn2112 wrote: it's nothing about your content, it's about my expectations of your play compared to my expectations of tehpoofter's play
and no, i have never said you aren't town, i've never said anything about what I think about your alignment. tbh i prefer to keep it that way. What expectations have I failed to live up to? You can't just claim shit like this without explaining what you mean. Sure I understand you don't expect poofter to be some amazing mass-posting supertownie, but I don't see how even if you give him a "noob" status he has fully lived up to expectations, so my only reasonable conclusion is that I have somehow not lived up to your expectations of me. So, what are those expectations? my expectations of you as town is that as some point you will do something that makes me think "wow palmar such town i will never doubt this read" like when you started talking to yourself in foundation. I sorta got that feeling from the way you talked about how coag should be modkilled because it felt similar to the frustration you felt in foundation over how pushing a boone (the claimed doc) lynch would be impossible, therefore you must just assume she's town and not care about the game if she was mafia. So yes i do think you are town but not so much that I would care to write this many words about it if you weren't being so annoying about it.
My bad, I forgot to talk to myself.
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On March 19 2014 19:28 thrawn2112 wrote: stop equating "naturally looking townier as town" with "ability to appear town as town"
seems like you're just mad because you weren't in my top 3 town list? anyways i don't care any more, I'm very very far from trying to lynch you so I don't want to waste any more time posting about it
No I want to understand your thought process. I'm assuming everyone, including mafia, thinks Koshi is town.
So it's important who else you have a town read on and why. I don't think your reasons for the town read are legit. I'm not sure it makes you scum, but it's worth noting.
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On March 19 2014 19:32 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 19:29 Koshi wrote: HF DP Vivax GiggleTummy Alakaslam Djodreff ↑ People who are scummy. How is Alakaslam scummy ? And what about me also by the way ?
How about you comment on something instead of just asking questions.
You can ask questions when your filter is 50+ posts. Until then, go do something useful.
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On March 19 2014 19:56 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 19:37 Palmar wrote:On March 19 2014 19:32 Djodref wrote:On March 19 2014 19:29 Koshi wrote: HF DP Vivax GiggleTummy Alakaslam Djodreff ↑ People who are scummy. How is Alakaslam scummy ? And what about me also by the way ? How about you comment on something instead of just asking questions. You can ask questions when your filter is 50+ posts. Until then, go do something useful. Asking questions is useful though. I agree that he should be commenting more. But asking questions is also fine.
In order to ask questions you need to have an interrogation permit from the ministry of intelligence. Interrogation permits are only handed out to trusted researchers who have proven their value to the state.
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On March 19 2014 20:34 Koshi wrote: Can somebody explain to me what he thinks about Hopeless and HF and why it correlates to the fact they made the game serious.
Also. Wtf was his drawing all about?
On March 19 2014 14:44 Vivax wrote: Hopeless cause he didn't consider HF could be joking with his initial posts, and immediately proceeded to call him scum for it. HF's first post on DP was obviously a joke, how do you conclude that the second one has to be serious so quickly, no questions asked. I for myself didn't think DP was really a scumread until HF started calling hopeless scum as well.
This is, as I said, the best point made against Hopeless. Holy's initial point on Hopeless was literally just "If I'm town you should sheep me cause I'm right and if I'm scum you should sheep me cause I'm bussing". And while if you take Hopeless's initial posts at straight up face value, HF is actually correct.
However it's completely unreasonable for HF to assume that Hopeless can only think that because HF once bussed in a situation similar to the one that came up at that time, that HF will bus every time, so Hopeless not joining HF's case on DP is completely understandable and not scummy at all. HF's insistance that hopeless should follow this logic is one of the reasons I say he feels off. there are more (for example "this is how video mafia players play" when in truth each of them has a unique style with no overall theme, see foundation mafia).
Vivax's point against Hopeless is however not bad. I thought it was clear that the case on DP was basically a joke but Hopeless never once considered that option, which means either he's a jumpy townie or scum looking for a reason to start shit. I'm not really sure which one it is, but that doesn't invalidate Vivax's point.
Where is this VE? didn't he say he was reading like many hours ago?
VE don't be shit pls.
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@VE
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On March 19 2014 21:00 Oatsmaster wrote: totally not alignment indicative that VE isnt here and thrawn trying to lynch him when he should really know better is bad.
Promising content and then not delivering used to be VE's no1 scumtell. Like every time he delayed adding content he was mafia.
However he's been really shit early games lately so whatever, I'll wait until he's here.
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On March 19 2014 21:05 Koshi wrote: Even though I can now see why people think Vivax said sensible things. I believe that these things are not what Vivax should be talking about 10 hours after it happened. After 10h nobody solely talking about things that happened 9 hours ago is horrible. Even if it is true it holds no value anymore.
Vivax ends his horrible opening post with the desire to keep talking about this. He asks Holyflare/Hopeless to explain what they did. NOBODY fucking cares about this explenation, especially if it is going to be picked up another 10 hours later by Vivax again.
So what is Vivax going to do next? Talk about what hapenned in the second hour of this game?
Vivax is very likely scum. But I going to give him a chance to come in here and be fully updated on EVERYTHING that happened and push is reads into this thread using at least 40 posts.
I like this Koshi.
Fuck yeah arbitrary parameters.
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