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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2014 23:17 GMT
#3356
Like I think the best course of action here is to lynch VE for lying but he's not yelling at me now so maybe he's not mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2014 23:23 GMT
#3358
I don't know if I like it, he was on the correct wagons if I recall correctly, and I vaguely remember him saying something that made me think he's town. I haven't re-checked his filter to confirm that I was basing my townread on him on something good or just a thing.

I did point out to him that he was being like far less supertown than in the last game, but I'm not entirely sure that makes him scum because his history suggests that being useful is the anomaly rather than the rule with him.

It's weekend, reading filters is hard work.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2014 23:30 GMT
#3360
btw just because I spent time doing this during the night:

raynpelikoneet 504
Holyflare 432
DarthPunk 376
Palmar 293
Koshi 228
thrawn2112 212
Hopeless1der 202
VisceraEyes 145
Oatsmaster 92
Djodref 88
Giggletummy 66
Tehpoofter 66
Coagulation 63
Alakaslam 48
Vivax 40

I don't think it's very relevant but who knows.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2014 23:37 GMT
#3362
yeah I'll read his filter tomorrow, cba now.

And tbh if push comes to shove I'll probably sheep rayn over anyone else.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 00:15 GMT
#3369
So who is then DP?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 00:15 GMT
#3371
Slam and?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 14:01 GMT
#3483
if we assume djodref is town Oats didn't look great pushing this thing on day 1.

On March 20 2014 00:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 00:02 Palmar wrote:
I agree with rayn's point about that bolded sentence. That looks like an observation townOats would make. I want you to play more and post more Oats.

I also want to play more but I cannot wrap my mind around the last 2 pages at all.
We should be lynching into Giggle/Djo/poof today.

at least 1 scum probably more.

Anyone not voting for one of these 3 is playing in an antitown manner and shall be shunned.


On March 20 2014 16:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why arent we lynching Djo?
He's calling people town for having a bad read.
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 20 2014 09:49 Djodref wrote:
Before really going to bed this time, I just wanted to say that I really appreciated DP latest posts and especially this one after he read my filter.

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 09:29 DarthPunk wrote:
OK i just read Djo's filter and he acts super weird around his rayn 'read'

On March 19 2014 17:52 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 09:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 09:46 Coagulation wrote:
so does that make rayn confirmed scum or confirmed bad?


Rayn is pretty much town also. Do you really think rayn would fake this rage quit thing as scum? I don't. But I do think that he would care this much and be so convinced as town that he would do what he did.

So yeah. Kiss and make up cuties.

Although your hydra offends me and If I was a vig I would be viging you tonight no question.

Sadly I don't have a gun.


I'm catching up but I just wanted to mention that I think it is really an easy way to get an excuse to not contribute as scum. And if he was that much concerned about seals, regardless of his alignment, he could have mentioned it at this point (beginning of the game).
On March 19 2014 06:18 Coagulation wrote:
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VE also drew something similar and rayn didn't react at that point.

My point is, you shouldn't base your assessment of rain's alignment on this. It doesn't make him look good from my point of view.


His first post in and he is discrediting my town read of rayn which honestly is heavily influenced by playing with rayn a lot so I kind of like this post for a couple of reasons.

He is participating in a discussion of current events in the thread. He is calling someone scummy which in my experience of him he doesn't love to do as scum.
On March 19 2014 22:28 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:38 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:32 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:29 Koshi wrote:
HF DP Vivax GiggleTummy Alakaslam Djodreff
↑ People who are scummy.


How is Alakaslam scummy ?
And what about me also by the way ?

Give me your opinion on rayn in 2-3 lines pls.


I don't like how rayn is pushing his lynch targets, I think he is spending more time arguing for the sake of arguing instead of presenting sound arguments which would convince us to lynch Coag/Hopeless/GT with him.
The flip of Coag makes him look bad imo, given the time he spent arguing with him, and I don't understand why he didn't notice the drawn seal the first time if he was ready to AFK the game for it.
I don't understand what he has against Hopeless exactly and I wouldn't mind him explaining again. The scooby doo thing looks minor to me but I honestly don't want to read a previous game.
tl;dr rayn is rather scummy for me at the moment



More accusations of rayn. Even though I disagree with him I like that he is accusing SOMEBODY and that he is participating.

On March 19 2014 22:51 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Djodref tell me, you have no idea of my meta so does it bother you you (who have not played wwith me) call me mafia for something and the people who have played with me do not call me mafia for it?


Well, I didn't call you mafia for your reaction to the seal. I wanted to let DP know that his reasoning to pin you town was bad from my point of view and that I wouldn't trust him on that.


Here he is going from rayn is scummy to "actually I just didn;t want DP to give you a town read'

Don't like it. Djo in my experience hates taking firm stances on whom he thinks is mafia


His next post on the surface appears good and productive but it's kind of weird also at the start he makes some points about why he thinks rayn is 'suspicious' I don't necessarily agree with what he is saying but I like that he saying things and trying to scumhunt. The odd part happens after that.

On March 19 2014 23:24 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:51 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Djodref tell me, you have no idea of my meta so does it bother you you (who have not played wwith me) call me mafia for something and the people who have played with me do not call me mafia for it?


Well, I didn't call you mafia for your reaction to the seal. I wanted to let DP know that his reasoning to pin you town was bad from my point of view and that I wouldn't trust him on that.

I don't know if it's just me but to me it looks like that's exactly why you are calling me mafia.
So if you would clarify why you in fact are calling me mafia it would help me figuring out your alignment.


I'm suspicious of you for several reasons.
  • You pinned Coag as mafia for one useless post and a point about kush's meta.
    =>How could you be so sure it was kush posting ?
  • You spent a lot of time arguing with Coag and clarifying some minor points, and it was messing up the thread from my point of view.
    =>Why didn't you bring up new arguments ?
  • You announce that you go AFK because of the seal thing, when they were already seals drawned in thread way before
    =>Looked too easy for me
  • I didn't understand where Hopeless was lying.


That being said, the post of Coag was indeed scummy, but it is a little not enough much for me to spend so much time and thread space about it.
Also I don't think it's a good idea to lynch you today because of your activity and also because I don't feel like I could push a lynch on you. And you have good points about GT.
tl;dr I don't trust you, you are potential mafia on my list, but I would rather lynch someone else today.

Could you answer me why you chose to support an Hopeless lynch instead of a GT lynch ?



He goes here is all the reasons I think you are scummy. But here is the reasons I don't want to lynch you today despite, up until this point only talking about you bieing scum and nothing else.

He says he doesn't want to lynch rayn because he couldn't get the lynch off. Not because he has changed his read, because he still calls Rayn mafia in that same post, but then he wants to sheep rayn and both of the lynches rayn has been pushing. That makes no fucking sense at all.


On March 20 2014 08:56 Djodref wrote:
I have read the whole thread again and I don't think that rayn could be mafia anymore.
I don't like how Oats and thrawn voted me for the lynch with little justification. I would expect thrawn to be more active to push my lynch over GT as well.
I don't mind Koshi voting me that much because I believe he is town and I know I didn't do much.
I'd be happy to get behind a GT lynch today for self preservation mainly.
Also I wouldn't be surprised if we have at least 3 mafia members in the pool of less active players in this game. Which I'm fully aware of belonging to. I'm not mafia though
I'll try to give better input tomorrow before the lynch and also my paintings if I get behind a proper computer.
I got to go to bed now though but I'll hang around a little more.


See you tomorrow guys!


Later he says he doesn't think rayn is scum after all. He has done nothing but call rayn scum or argue with rayn the entire game, all of a sudden rayn is not scum due to a 'reread' what could he have possibly read to completely reverse his only scum read and the only thing he has spoken about all game?

He sheeps a wagon his precious number one scum read was pushing when he was his number one scum read.

Basically I want to lynch one of Djo or GT today. I want poofter to answer my fucking questions. Then I will be a happy panda.


It shows he is really trying to figure the game right now and I think it's a rather fair assessment of my filter.



His read on me is total shit. His explanation is not at all how it happened and I did the exact same thing as koshi did so why he calling me scum for it?
Like this post, he implies that I look town until me and thrawn vote
Show nested quote +
And to answer to thrawn, I need to see more from Oats to read him properly, he looked quite townish until he decided to put down his vote on me and went to bed.
As for you thrawn, I was worried about your activity level until you started to post more tonight. I have you more on the townie side with your latest posts. But this is as well downgraded by the fact that you have your vote on me

Which makes me think he is calling me scum for trying to lynch town but thats clearly not the case. The later explanations of our votes being not so clear is totally bullshit and backtracking.

The most convincing thing for me is that he accepts DP's analyzation of his filter which was that he was scum and even calls DP townier because of that.

Dp, tehpoofter is reasonably answering your inquires man, get off his back for today at least. Giggle or Djo?



On March 20 2014 21:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 21:35 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2014 21:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey palmar, do you think Holyflare is right on DP? And if so, does that mean that GT is town?


Do YOU think holyflare is right?

I dont like that you dont want to lynch Djo and you keep repeating the same thing about GT. Some of his case was ok and made sense.


On March 20 2014 21:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 21:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2014 21:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 20 2014 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2014 21:45 Djodref wrote:
On March 20 2014 21:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 20 2014 21:35 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2014 21:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey palmar, do you think Holyflare is right on DP? And if so, does that mean that GT is town?


Do YOU think holyflare is right?

I dont like that you dont want to lynch Djo and you keep repeating the same thing about GT. Some of his case was ok and made sense.


By the way, could you write down your main points against me ? I'd like to discuss what you have against me if you don't mind.


This is the reason I don;t want to lynch djo oats. Look how willing he is to be proactive in pushing discussion. Does that not even give you the smallest amount of pause?

Proactive is finding scum. Not this.


And what is GT proactive in doing oats?

I prefer to lynch Djo over GT.
I dont think GT is town.

(read entire conversation above)


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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 14:02 GMT
#3484
The above conversation also makes DP look better.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 14:09 GMT
#3488
I'm gonna place my vote on you Oats because phone-post-voting is extremely hard in this game and I'm not going to be around much.

Consider my vote to still be on VE in spirit!

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Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 14:14 GMT
#3494
tbh it's entirely possible oats/ve is the remaining scum. Oats has almost not mentioned VE at all throughout the game, he said something like "I don't remember anything VE has done" and never did anything else with it.

VE doesn't mention Oats until page 141 in the game, but to be entirely fair he does so to call Oats out. However Oats randomly popped up on VE's "would not lynch" list on day 1.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 14:18 GMT
#3502
On March 23 2014 23:11 Koshi wrote:
Palmar,
the cases GT made on VE during D1 and during N2 doesn't make you a bit more hesitant about your VE read? You think those were buss cases?

I don't know. neither of the flipped scum called me mafia I think, does that make me mafia?

VE said things that aren't true. aka lied. It's a good reason for lynching him. Do you believe GT legitimately thought he had enough influence in town to push any kind of read he himself was the originator of?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 14:22 GMT
#3507
On March 23 2014 23:20 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 23:18 Palmar wrote:
On March 23 2014 23:11 Koshi wrote:
Palmar,
the cases GT made on VE during D1 and during N2 doesn't make you a bit more hesitant about your VE read? You think those were buss cases?

I don't know. neither of the flipped scum called me mafia I think, does that make me mafia?

VE said things that aren't true. aka lied. It's a good reason for lynching him. Do you believe GT legitimately thought he had enough influence in town to push any kind of read he himself was the originator of?


Palmar Will you lynch slam with me>?

Can't we vig/check him? It's like completely pointless to even try, there is nothing in his filter that says anything about his alignment.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 14:25 GMT
#3514
On March 23 2014 23:23 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 23:18 Palmar wrote:
On March 23 2014 23:11 Koshi wrote:
Palmar,
the cases GT made on VE during D1 and during N2 doesn't make you a bit more hesitant about your VE read? You think those were buss cases?

I don't know. neither of the flipped scum called me mafia I think, does that make me mafia?

VE said things that aren't true. aka lied. It's a good reason for lynching him. Do you believe GT legitimately thought he had enough influence in town to push any kind of read he himself was the originator of?

Maybe not, but scum shot Holyflare. Where does that leave GT today? He couldn't have known rayn would shoot him. GT still went hard after VE during the night.

GT would've been lynched today is the assumption I'm working under. I even said as much that we wouldn't have time to deal with VE today because GT was such an obvious lynch.

On March 21 2014 08:04 Palmar wrote:
Because VE is probably scum, but honestly, there's no way we can deal with VE scum tomorrow, we need to lynch GT.


Like I tend to not believe anything scum says when they think they're about to die.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 14:26 GMT
#3516
On March 23 2014 23:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like, if you do not believe Oats is mafia then you MUST believe Djodref is mafia because otherwise Oats' play makes no sense from town pov.

So we are not lynching Slam, we are lynching Oats or Djodref.


I have no idea why this has to be true. Oats being town and wrong/bad on djodref is entirely possible. The only thing I think is highly unlikely is them both being scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 14:30 GMT
#3520
On March 23 2014 23:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 23:26 Palmar wrote:
On March 23 2014 23:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like, if you do not believe Oats is mafia then you MUST believe Djodref is mafia because otherwise Oats' play makes no sense from town pov.

So we are not lynching Slam, we are lynching Oats or Djodref.


I have no idea why this has to be true. Oats being town and wrong/bad on djodref is entirely possible. The only thing I think is highly unlikely is them both being scum.

Oats is generally REALLY all over the place as town. He is not here.
I doubt he has done nothing but bussed his teammate but it's entirely possible he has done nothing but tried to lynch a townie, because everybody was accusing mafia on D1.

Yes I get that, the point I was making that if Oats is NOT mafia, that does not mean that Djodref is 100% mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 15:19 GMT
#3573
On March 24 2014 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 00:11 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:10 Koshi wrote:
imo DP got fed up with HF and because he didn't want to ragequit as scum he shot HF.


Fuck no. I was dominating him at the end of the day. lol.

That is not true because if you think you would lynch Holyflare before me and Palmar are dead you are imagining things.

to be fair I said during the night I'd lynch HF over DP.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 15:28 GMT
#3592
On March 24 2014 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 00:19 Palmar wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:11 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:10 Koshi wrote:
imo DP got fed up with HF and because he didn't want to ragequit as scum he shot HF.


Fuck no. I was dominating him at the end of the day. lol.

That is not true because if you think you would lynch Holyflare before me and Palmar are dead you are imagining things.

to be fair I said during the night I'd lynch HF over DP.

THAT'S THE POINT. Noone was going to lynch Holyflare over 10 other people in this game.
Why did he get shot? There is literally no reason he got shot unless DarthPunk is mafia, or some scrubs like Djo/Slam are mafia. Which we are going to find out now.

DP is the biggest reason I voted Vivax on day 1, I think the chances of him being mafia are almost none.

Reading into the night shots seems dumb. If I'm mafia why wouldn't I shoot HF? It's super obvious what HF's tunnel was through the entire game. If DP is mafia keeping HF alive was only doing him good, his filter is huge from arguing with HF and HF wasn't even winning the argument.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 15:32 GMT
#3599
Why is Oats town again DP?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 15:33 GMT
#3601
On March 24 2014 00:32 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 00:29 Koshi wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:27 Koshi wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:26 Koshi wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:24 Koshi wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:15 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:12 Koshi wrote:
[quote]
I am Koshi.
You are DarthPunk.


You are an idiot. That's what you are.

Am I DarthPunk and are you Koshi?


Why troll me dood? What is the point? are you sad because you hard defended mafia and have called me scum all game. HAHAHA.

Why would I be sad about calling you scum?


Cause you are wrong

How can I know that? How can I already know that you are town?


It should be obvious by now.

Because your "gut reads", your cases on town that gets shot on N1 and you begging for cop check on yourself?

Because of that?


WHy the FUCK would SCUM beg for a COP CHECK!@!>?!??!?


Because if you're scum you know you won't get one until at least 2 nights from now (slam will be checked tonight). It's moot point.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 23 2014 15:39 GMT
#3604
I want to check slam, or just shoot him.
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