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C) forests suck | ||
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The bigger concern is players refusing to cooperate, no? | ||
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We're going to literally have a host give us a list of the order players pick in. If we're following rayn's plan, who cares which players get what order? | ||
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if anyone doesnt follow the plan the whole thing goes haywire. The best use of 'choosing' our order is putting players who agree to follow the plan up front. But if players explicitly want to disrupt it they'd be able to pick numbers that match the players we want up front causing both to fall to the bottom. Also, did yam/palmar both pick 1.1 already? | ||
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On March 06 2014 02:23 Oatsmaster wrote: You literally just asked why we were so concerned about picking numbers. And you gave the reason. What exactly was the point of the question in the first place? we're supposed to be following the plan. if we're following the plan, it makes no difference who gets what place in the draft. | ||
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On March 06 2014 02:23 marvellosity wrote: But why wouldn't someone follow the plan? If players want to explicitly disrupt it then we shoot/lynch them. so then we need to publicize our numbers, right? | ||
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On March 06 2014 02:27 marvellosity wrote: Dunno. I just know I'm ok with Palmar and rayn having the two slots they've claimed they were going to take. And if someone isn't, they should say so quite upfront rather than just alluding to the fact that things might go wrong. my only problem right now is yamato said he is conflicting with palmar. On March 05 2014 11:16 yamato77 wrote: Picking 1, 1 | ||
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On March 05 2014 22:11 Oatsmaster wrote: hehe. Xata repeating shit already said is weird. Artanis suddenly playing the game is weird as shit. Artanis why did you stop playing that game with Rayn and start playing the game seriously? what were you expecting from artanis here oats? | ||
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On March 06 2014 02:40 marvellosity wrote: Thanks, that really helps me read your alignment xox anything for marv  | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Is this really the most interesting thing you found from reading through the game? no but it was one of the more useless | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Are you saying you think Oats is scum for making a useless question? Come on hopeless step it up, this is Oats. thats why i didnt call him scum  | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote: So why point it out? I presume you went through the thread and this is the first thing that's related to a read other than sheeping on LSB that you've mentioned. Why did you point this out in specific? on the off chance oats had reasons or something | ||
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On March 06 2014 02:38 Hopeless1der wrote: i'm just gonna sheep you and rayn on LSB this is the extent of my scumhunting | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:39 marvellosity wrote: the most boring thing in the thread is prplhz is it more lynchable than LSB? | ||
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no u | ||
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can you like please go shove it? | ||
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And since I was mocking you in was actively avoiding discussion. I didnt expect you to tell me we should lynxh you over LSB. My point is your being intentionally obtuse and I was giving you a taste of your own. | ||
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On March 06 2014 06:12 Palmar wrote: So wait, do we lynch before we get the roles? are you ever going to read the OP palmar? | ||
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6. In the event of a tie, there will be No Lynch. This is why OP's should be read. | ||
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you already submit your numbers gumshoe or do we have a chance to discuss your problems with rayn? | ||
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On March 06 2014 08:49 austinmcc wrote: Specifically, this worries me. We've basically been TOLD things won't happen as expected. Again, vigis, roleblockers, jailers, and all roles that we don't expect to have KP all have to work like we think they will. Assassin has to be the only silent insta-kill. scum day vigi can't work like that or scum vigis an important townie, we kill the assassin, things fall apart, etc. I LIKE THE THOUGHT BUT THIS RELIES ON US BEING IN A DIFFERENT GAME scum would need to be both the assassin and the dayvig for this to work, and then we can lynch them both... | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On March 06 2014 08:58 austinmcc wrote: Eh? If roles are modified based on faction picking, a scum day vigi could be "type in thread and shoot that dude" "type in thread shoot different dude" "silent daykill" "something else" If the role doesn't work exactly as stated, say if it's silent or it hits someone else (which I guess is also silent), then things didn't work like the plan needs them to. I suppose if you hit someone else, that's not a very townie modification and we assume scum, but if day vigi can be modified to be silent, then when the day vigi shoots, we assume it's the assassin, and then we lynch the assassin. Whatever the assassin's alignment, he's gonna go "I didn't shoot that guy", but as far as we know, assassin is the only possible silent shot, so we think he's lying. Town or scum, a silent shot went off, assassin has the only silent shot we know of, therefore assassin did it and is lying, therefore lynch. It wouldn't require scum to have both? | ||
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On March 06 2014 09:32 austinmcc wrote: (Caps are for emphasis and fun, not anger) As always buddy  I think you are drastically overestimating how much the roles can be changed | ||
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you cant activate kp roles in the last 12 hours LSB -> JOAT is supposed to use rb's, not kp. I'd like to argue for using the DT power, but that's just me. Under no circumstances should the JOAT be shooting. If town claims their roles and uses them accordingly, the day-vig will get shot as a 2nd lynch, same as the night-vig, same as the assassin. If you are directed to shoot someone and refuse, you will be lynched. End of discussion. This plan requires absolute compliance. That means you have to die. | ||
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On March 05 2014 21:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: It does not really matter who the JoaT is because you just roleblock someone at N1 and that's it, then they are vanilla. | ||
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1. Palmar - Day-Vig 2. Oatsmaster - Universal Backup 3. prplhz - Night Vig 4. Hopeless1der - Assassin 5. Artanis[Xp] - Roleblocker 6. marvellosity 7. yamato77 8. austinmcc 9. Xatalos 10. gumshoe 11. LSB 12. raynpelikoneet | ||
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On March 06 2014 20:23 marvellosity wrote: I have been thinking about Oats a little. I wonder if it's worth someone near the bottom of the draft 2nd picking Universal Backup, just in case :x I'm going to pick UBU. If mafia pick it up along the way, we'd be none the wiser. If Oats is scum, he can pick anything other than assassin (probably JOAT based on all the speculation discussion) then causing mass chaos as best he can. A scumbuddy would have to take UBU so that Oats can copy/paste, but the damage would be done by then. Unless me or prpl, in addition to Oats are scum (which is incredibly unlikely) then I think this is the safest thing for me to do with my pick. If everything goes according to plan, I'm just VT which scarcely matters because of the hive mind. I HAVE NOT YET SUBMITTED A ROLE | ||
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On March 06 2014 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Not knowing which one of Hopeless/Oats is lying is too much room for error. Mafia can sac one person for complete distrust. okay if thats the preference i'll stick to the plan. Going to submit for normal vig in ~30 minutes | ||
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On March 06 2014 19:42 prplhz wrote: I just picked dayvig Assassin (Palmar) Universal Backup (Oatsmaster) Day-Vig (prplhz) Vig (hopeless) Roleblocker (Artanis) 6. marvellosity 7. yamato77 8. austinmcc 9. Xatalos 10. gumshoe 11. LSB 12. raynpelikoneet Vet JOAT Role Cop DT JK Doc | ||
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On March 06 2014 23:46 Xatalos wrote: Btw if we're going to mass claim N1, isn't it better to organize getting the roles to avoid duplicates? what do you think we're doing right now? | ||
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On March 06 2014 23:48 Xatalos wrote: I meant the ones below the top 5. I actually think thats bad. I'd rather they be hidden | ||
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In the case of Jailkeeper targeting Roleblocker and the Roleblocker targeting the Medic, then the Roleblocker will successfully roleblock the Medic and the Jailkeeper will successfully jailkeeps the Roleblocker. Order of operations are wonky, but well defined | ||
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On March 07 2014 00:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also why were people still talking about me? I am literally confirmed town because I'm actively trying to post rather than actively trying to dodge the thread and have a 6 page filter halfway into the day. It's annoying. thats exactly what scum would say, isnt it Artanis? Stop being so defensive, we're telling you to protect marv because you're town silly | ||
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theres a medic for that | ||
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On March 07 2014 00:58 marvellosity wrote: yeah. Because Palmar hasn't played seriously up to now, he needs plenty of scrutiny. He can't be allowed to get away with shitty shots and actions, because he's not done anything beforehand to warrant it. Everyone should be healthily wary of Palmar. is that not basically what yamato said, but like a day ago? | ||
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"he's not done anything beforehand to warrant it. Everyone should be healthily wary of Palmar." | ||
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On March 07 2014 01:13 marvellosity wrote: look if you can't tell the difference between what I said and what yamato said about him / the context involved, I can't help you Hopeless. I'm not gonna spoonfeed you. context notwithstanding you have said essentially the same thing. If this is sufficient justification to lynch yamato, I'll just smh and continue to sheep | ||
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9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits. careful guys | ||
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On March 06 2014 16:08 ObviousOne wrote: Voting ends in: | ||
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On March 07 2014 04:37 yamato77 wrote: Apparently the best reasoning for lynching me is what I said about Palmar, which no one seems to disagree with besides Palmar himself. Okay. i disagreed, but try telling the to fancy-pants marv over there. | ||
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On March 07 2014 05:12 Xatalos wrote: I wanted to post a seal pic just now but then again it might ruin a tradition of scumclaims so I refrained :/ i already ruined it, i posted a seal in shadowed reboot | ||
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On March 07 2014 04:16 LSB wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Hopless1der stop ninja voting | ||
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On March 07 2014 05:31 Palmar wrote: I like ninja voting that doesnt make it okay. next thing you know, you like lynching townies for fun | ||
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On March 07 2014 07:21 marvellosity wrote: mainly i'm fucking around the point that i want to see what austin posts when he returns before i decide on him it's much more fun to dress it up as something else though. Dress up | ||
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On March 07 2014 03:22 LSB wrote: I already locked in JOAT rayn On March 07 2014 07:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes, maybe i should pick vet and LSB could be the doctor. | ||
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On March 07 2014 07:39 marvellosity wrote: he's always been like this tbh. in setups where there is setup shit he talks about it a lot. he also goes off on completely random tangents which aside from his "nemesis" post hasnt really happened. austin doesnt feel involved like he normally is | ||
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On March 07 2014 07:43 marvellosity wrote: I've basically not noticed Oats and not been irritated by him. Both things I associate with him being town. Dunno. Feel like it's worth bringing up because no-one's talked about him at all. He always says himself, he is much better at looking like town when he is mafia than when he is town. i dont think he "looks" town, therefore he is town. To me of course. What was the last game he played scum in, I'm still basing my Oats meta on White Flag. | ||
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On March 07 2014 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: The thought process behind Oats' argument about my plan and the evolvement of it seems really townie to me as Artanis said. well the majority of town has decided to follow the plan afaik. Changing his mind to match town mindset is only slightly town and loess so for oats imo. hes still town to me though | ||
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On November 01 2013 10:37 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol ok, who do you think is scum Grack? On November 01 2013 11:59 Oatsmaster wrote: He hasnt been active at all. This is like newbie lurker status. Other than me, who else do you think is scum? On November 01 2013 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote: He hasnt posted anything though. Of the people we can actually discuss, who do you think is scum? On November 01 2013 20:16 Oatsmaster wrote: So LJ, who do you MOST want to die today? .... maybe not the hounding people part i didnt read that intently | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:01 Palmar wrote: do I get to kill anyone during the night? or do I have to wait for day? you can kill the instant you receive your role. (assuming you picked assassin and know your targets role) | ||
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On March 07 2014 08:34 austinmcc wrote: But this is such a ... good response. If rayn believes 100000% in his plan, and things go WRONG with the plan, then LSB is right. There's no upside. Either rayn is trying to get a townie lynched, or rayn is mafia AND THE WHOLE PLAN WAS CREATED BY MAFIA IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A GOOD THING. False. Plan is uber-pro-town. | ||
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##unvote: gumshoe ##Vote: austinmcc | ||
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6. In the event of a tie, there will be No Lynch. | ||
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I'm 2-shot vigilante. Please advise. | ||
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On March 07 2014 11:35 Xatalos wrote: Also Hopeless voted for austin so I see no reason why he wouldn't want to shoot austin. That was for marvs shenanigans, I would have left my vote on shoe otherwise. Changing via phone in 8v1 scenario, I cba at that point. | ||
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On March 07 2014 11:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Maybe hopeless is mafia and gumshoe is town. I see no reason to not shoot austin. Also I thought you were 100% that one of the other 2,1 drafters were scum | ||
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Austin we need things and stuff or I'll end up being coerced into shooting you in the face. | ||
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On March 07 2014 14:15 Palmar wrote: oats is lying I've sent in a kill on him how do you know? | ||
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On March 07 2014 21:13 marvellosity wrote: also Palmar shooting gumshoe confirms gumshoe's role, for obvious reasons and by extension basically confirms Oats's claim of vanilla so then palmar is burning the vest then? Okay I'll shoot austin. Just so I'm sure i understand, if austin is rolecop then oats is vt right? | ||
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I'm shooting gumshoe, right? | ||
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can we have a showdown? | ||
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On March 08 2014 02:27 marvellosity wrote: tbf I didn't ask for a switch at all, i was happy with yamato. i tried, no one let me though | ||
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On March 08 2014 02:36 Xatalos wrote: "I thought player A was scum" "But I voted for player B whom I thought was town" "It all makes sense, you see?" I said yolo. not town. | ||
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i'd include palmar there that means you have me/gumshoe/prplhz/oats to decide between you two | ||
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On March 08 2014 03:43 Xatalos wrote: Btw what does this mean? We should check each other? Why? On March 08 2014 05:29 Hopeless1der wrote: you dont need to, we changed our mind. you need to cop DIFFERENT people outside of marv/rayn/artanis/you/lsb i'd include palmar there that means you have me/gumshoe/prplhz/oats to decide between you two | ||
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On March 08 2014 05:53 prplhz wrote: don't cop hope i'll shoot him tomorrow but i have a 2nd shot. and you're shooting gumshoe | ||
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LSB could have shot him, maybe you were CPR jailer something something I dunno. I know that gumshoe should be able to clear or give info on me/prpl so I want that right now | ||
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On March 08 2014 14:32 LSB wrote: I hearby submit a request to remove the Confirmed town hat from Hopeless1der Denied. Now where the hell is gumshoe. I'm going to sleep now. If he hasn't posted by the time I'm back,heads will roll. | ||
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Oats might have gotten a super role due to the draft being perfect. I don't think a bus driver on Marv/gum is that farfetched. In fact bus driver makes THE MOST sense (to me obv). Not that im saying it is oats but he'd be my first choice off speculation due to his "latent swap" ability. | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote: At some point you have to say okay if this is how superpowered his role got then it's bullshit. Oats is a busdriver....its that simple. Here's why we need to wait for gumshoe. He's claimed vet. We've had two shots on him and he's still alive. It stands to reason that he is in fact a vet, because prplhz and I can't BOTH be lying. 1 - Gumshoe has been shot at least once. 2 - Veteran - The first KP used against you is absorbed (this works against factional KP). You will be notified once this ability has been used. As this is a passive ability, this ability is immune to being roleblocked and requires no host PM notification. You still automatically die if you are lynched. Once again: You will be notified once this ability has been used. 3 - prplhz has claimed his shot AFTER the deadline has passed, due to the conditions of being a DAY Vigilante On March 08 2014 11:05 prplhz wrote: i already shot gum though On March 08 2014 11:00 geript wrote: Day 2 Day 2 starts now.... FIGHT!!! Day 2 ends in: You have until then to lynch a player. Do I need to spell this out any further? | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:43 Oatsmaster wrote: There is literally no proof/evidence that im a bus driver. I know, but it would 'fit' with the speculative power-up roles. You'd also have to be a GF, or else Xata is insane for this to work. Can we just wait for 1 thing at a time with gumshoe please? If he confirms the shot from prplhz it means I ended up shooting marv. I don't know how, but it basically confirms a bus driver upon my flip. | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: So a scum that chooses universal backup when there are no roles available randomly gets a role that isn't originally in the game in any even remotely similar role? Makes sense. It will, if gumshoe received a notification at any time after 11:00 saying he was shot. | ||
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On March 09 2014 00:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Whatever gum claims, you still need to die because you're by far the most likely to be scum. Feel free to speculate about what happens afterwards though. That's what I'm doing. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Z5vWIJy.jpg) | ||
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On March 09 2014 01:11 Oatsmaster wrote: because you shot him BUT I DIDN"T SEE HIM THERE I THOUGHT HE WAS GUMSHOE HONEST | ||
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On March 09 2014 01:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: He could have but none of the cohosts could be here. well plammar for all his talk does not fire his gun for no reason. he'll shoot me in the face precisely when he means to and not a moment sooner. ##Vote Gumshoe | ||
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On March 09 2014 01:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Wait, why are you voting on Gumshoe when your conspiracy theory just now revolved around Oats being scum? plammar said so. he's also afk and is the only one who can exonerate me, but his refusal to do anything in this game is suspect. Oats is total conspiracy theory and he almost can't be lynched until I die. | ||
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On March 09 2014 01:57 Oatsmaster wrote: I cant get lynched ever. so you're saying we have to let me shoot you Night 2? | ||
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On March 09 2014 02:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Xatalos mentioned it before but I'm not sure if we'd have enough kp in time if scum have 2kp each night to kill both LSB and Gum. We'd be at mylo tomorrow. Mafia KP is set at 1 and is factional. | ||
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On March 09 2014 02:20 Oatsmaster wrote: well prp has a shot. And hopeless has a shot. And Palmar has infinite shots. so yeah its highly possible that 2 dudes die at night again. False. Try again. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
you will be able to use this ability one additional time on the following cycle Palmar has to shoot today. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On March 11 2014 05:19 Palmar wrote: No that would imply my trap was actually elaborate or useful, or both. It wasn't. tell that to the man at the bottom of the pit | ||
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