On March 05 2014 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Unless you are suggesting i am mafia and therefore there are no "right answers" which is dumb in the first place and you should have still said "no".

No I'm suggesting a simple answer would always be a bad answer. But I can tell that you don't agree so I think we must agree to disagree.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 05 2014 11:20 GMT

#302

I am keeping my vote on him until he does something that helps. I am all in for killing LSB or Xatalos, but i hate when Palmar does not help because he is so good as town. If he posts why post fucking shit like that.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 05 2014 11:21 GMT

#303

On March 05 2014 19:41 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar, you promisd before the game that you'd try to lynch yamato if he didn't put in sufficient effort. Are you abandoning this in your desire to be lazy, or are you gonna go full hypocrite instead? Or whence the change of heart in general?

I have not decided the appropriate answer to this question yet. I may have been lying but I also may have been telling the truth. I think it's important I decide whether or not I was lying, as that will have an effect on how I vote today.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 05 2014 11:21 GMT

#304

ok, as long as we are perfectly clear you are policy lynching someone rather than lynching for scumminess

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 05 2014 11:23 GMT

#305

Rayn I know that you think I'm a valuable asset to town as well when I'm town so why do you not get pissed at me for not helping?

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 05 2014 11:24 GMT

#306

On March 05 2014 20:21 marvellosity wrote:
ok, as long as we are perfectly clear you are policy lynching someone rather than lynching for scumminess

Unlike our friend Oats, I am fully aware of how policy lynches work, and what the requirements for executing them are. I usually make it abundantly clear when I'm policy lynching.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 05 2014 11:24 GMT

#307

I was talking to rayn, Palmar.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 05 2014 11:27 GMT

#308

On March 05 2014 20:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn I know that you think I'm a valuable asset to town as well when I'm town so why do you not get pissed at me for not helping?

I just made a post which says i am pissed at you for various reasons.

On March 05 2014 20:21 marvellosity wrote:
ok, as long as we are perfectly clear you are policy lynching someone rather than lynching for scumminess

No, i think it's scummy that Palmar refuses to help the town but still posts. Inactive town Palmar just does not post, which is different from posting shit and derailing the thread.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 05 2014 11:28 GMT

#309

No it isn't different at all.

On March 05 2014 20:12 marvellosity wrote:
Just shoot him later if he doesn't play properly. I have no idea why you'd waste a lynch on that thing

This is the only reasonable response to what Palmar has done so far.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 05 2014 11:29 GMT

#310

Yeah but the only one you really care about is Palmar. You didn't even include me in the kill list

Am I that unimportant to you? Does our relationship mean nothing?!

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 05 2014 11:30 GMT

#311

Marv do you mean N1? Because D1 is supposed to be Palmar's best day. Why would he not play properly on his best day?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 05 2014 11:31 GMT

#312

Who cares? He's not played properly on d1 as town numerous times. It's just a dead end avenue of thought.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 05 2014 11:35 GMT

#313

happy?

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 05 2014 11:36 GMT

#314

Yes.
Rayn confirmed town.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 05 2014 11:37 GMT

#315

Do you have any actualy thoughts about someone who's not me Artanis?

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12973 Posts

March 05 2014 11:38 GMT

#316

I've only skimmed through the thread since waking up. I should be working right now so I haven't had the time to read through properly. I agree that particularly LSB's last point of those three looked bad tho.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 05 2014 11:41 GMT

#317

There is also this other thing on Palmar which is that my plan is actually really fucking good and only relies on townies agreeing with it (which leaves scum no other chance than to actually go with it) and this is a perfect fucking guise to not do so for Palmar as mafia as he can be stubborn and fuck with the plan just because he wants to shoot someone and that's why i also want to lynch him.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

March 05 2014 11:42 GMT

#318

And that's why i am REALLY entertaining the chance of picking [1][1] jsut because i don't want Palmar to pick first.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

March 05 2014 11:44 GMT

#319

that point is actually a reasonable one, yea

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

March 05 2014 11:44 GMT

#320

The only problem I have with rayn's plan is that Mafia could pretty easily narrow down who are the Detective, Medic and Jailkeeper (remove the KP roles from the possibilities, then the Mafia team members, and you already have a very good chance at hitting one of the most pro-town roles).

I guess it's still more beneficial to keep the KP roles in check and avoid rogue KP at obvious townies. Basically scum need to do town's bidding or claim scum (if they get KP roles which seems likely). It's obviously good if either of those options happen.

Also: Survivor should definitely claim ASAP. If there's a CC, then it's pretty obvious that the first claimer is Mafia (since Mafia would never sacrifice themselves for no good reason like that). If there's no CC, then it's pretty certain that he actually is the Survivor. All in all, I don't really see any reason for scum to fakeclaim Survivor at this point. Later on, yes, but not now. That's why Survivor should claim ASAP.