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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 10:38 GMT
#281
On March 05 2014 19:37 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 19:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Policy lynch Palmar
##vote Palmar


You can't just yell "policy lynch". You have to have an actual policy that I have broken.

The policy is lynching people who claim scum.
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2014 10:38 GMT
#282
On March 05 2014 19:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 19:33 marvellosity wrote:
You do realise Palmar has claimed mafia as town on several occasions?

You do realise that Palmar has claimed mafia as mafia on several occasions?

On March 05 2014 19:33 marvellosity wrote:
so what? I have no idea if it's truthful or not.


*ruffles*. Who's a clever boy?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 05 2014 10:39 GMT
#283
On March 05 2014 19:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 19:37 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2014 19:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Policy lynch Palmar
##vote Palmar


You can't just yell "policy lynch". You have to have an actual policy that I have broken.

The policy is lynching people who claim scum.


I did not claim scum, therefore I have not broken your policy. Therefore you cannot say you're policy lynching me,.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2014 10:41 GMT
#284
Palmar, you promisd before the game that you'd try to lynch yamato if he didn't put in sufficient effort. Are you abandoning this in your desire to be lazy, or are you gonna go full hypocrite instead? Or whence the change of heart in general?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 10:41 GMT
#285
Wel lcan you explain then how your statement makes sense from town perspective? That was kinda what i was asking in the first place when i asked you to elaborate.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 10:41 GMT
#286
On March 05 2014 19:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You might want to elaborate more on that.

On March 05 2014 19:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Unless he can of course reasonably explain how truthfully saying "i am town" makes it less likely he will win the game.

table for two on a tv tray
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 05 2014 10:51 GMT
#287
On March 05 2014 13:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 11:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
The police and firefighters arrive after exactly 14 minutes and 38 seconds. Rayn wandered off to his own cottage in the meantime. You "inform" the authorities that both your brother and the infamous smoking Finn didn't like forests and created a vile plan to burn it to the ground. The two are arrested on the spot and after testifying against them, they're both sentenced to 8 years in prison. Rayn's defense mostly consisted of calling you scum, whereas your brother admitted to starting the fire. After a sound sleep, you realize that life is going to be pretty boring here without anyone nearby and the forest mostly destroyed. Where do we go?

A) West, to a hilly area where Xatalos and austinmcc live
B) North, to the frozen lakes where Palmar and yamato77 live
C) East, to the warm land climates, resident to Oatsmaster and Hopeless1der
D) South, to a similar land where you lived, where your uncle yamato77 and grandpa marv live.

B and D are contradicting so we'll check out B and see which yamato is a lie!

You trek to the North, a land known for its frosty climates. It is known as the land of Policy. Decisions made here are ice cold, and you wonder if this was truly your destined land. Alas, there's no turning back now as you'll be spending the next month in the apartment you rented to check out if this is where you want to continue living. You decide to call yamato to hang out, but there's no reply. After that, you decide to settle for hanging out with Palmar. After exploring the town a bit with the viking, you sit down together for a beer and slowly get hypnotized by the lemmy-like mustache of the Icelandic friend.

A) Stare into the mustache more.
B) Ask him if his mustache has magical powers
C) Break out of the trance by getting a beer
D) Check your inventory
E) Grab your phone and call Marv
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 10:54 GMT
#288
C obviously. Also cigarrette.
table for two on a tv tray
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 05 2014 11:01 GMT
#289
You shake your head, refocus and stand up. "I'm gonna go get a beer." you say. "Get one for me too! I haven't had this many beers since yesterday!" Palmar joyfully replies. However, for some strange reason you decided that despite not smoking, you want to get a cigarette first. You step outside and see Yamato77 smoking next to you. "Hey man, can I get a cigarette?" you ask him. Yamato starts sweating profusely. "I don't smoke!" he says. You sigh and wish you had never moved. You go back inside and grab two beers. As both of you drink yourselves into oblivion, Palmar seems to be getting more and more rude.

A) Leave the pub
B) Tell him to stop being rude
C) Go outside and talk to Yamato again
D) Check your inventory
E) Grab your phone and call the prison of your old residency
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 11:01 GMT
#290
On March 05 2014 19:38 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 19:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 05 2014 19:33 marvellosity wrote:
You do realise Palmar has claimed mafia as town on several occasions?

You do realise that Palmar has claimed mafia as mafia on several occasions?

Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 19:33 marvellosity wrote:
so what? I have no idea if it's truthful or not.


*ruffles*. Who's a clever boy?

well then you cant say that its totally alignment indicative that Palmar claimed scum, can you.

POLICY LYNCH MARV. Either Palmar is telling the truth which means hes anti-town so lynch, or he's lying, also lynch.
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2014 11:02 GMT
#291
I didn't say that. I literally said "I can't tell if it's truthful"

It's right there in the post you're responding to. Impossible to miss.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 05 2014 11:05 GMT
#292
On March 05 2014 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wel lcan you explain then how your statement makes sense from town perspective? That was kinda what i was asking in the first place when i asked you to elaborate.


If we first assume that the only reasonable answers to your question are "yes" and "no", then yes I can. If I am mafia, it should be obvious that answering the question "yes" (and thus truthfully) would increase the chances of me getting lynched significantly.

It is not as obvious that a "no" answer as town will increase the chances I get lynched, and thus reduce town's chances of winning the game. The thing is a hard "no" answer to this question is not what I'd usually do as town. A more likely answer from me would be along the lines of "bitch please", "no, are you?" or "no, but I know who is *reasons*". All of those answers are both truthful and would (in my opinion) decrease the chances of me being lynched. However the short, hard "no" I would think is slightly suspicious coming from me. This is arguable, but I'd put the increased chance of me being lynched from the hard "no" at maybe a percent or so, small, but still valid.




However what I'm surprised you haven't picked up on about Palmar is how inconsistent he is when presenting that original statement.

The refusal to truthfully answer the question is based upon desire to win the game. The entire reason he does not provide the answer is that he thinks he cannot do so truthfully without decreasing his chances to win.

However, given that the refusal is based on his own speculations about the game and how town might react to his statements, he should have also been able to deduce that the refusal would put him under even more scrutiny than answering "no" as town. This contradicts his initial motivation for not answering, as not providing the answer means he's under more suspicion than he would be if he answered truthfully as town.

This leaves only the option that Palmar is scum, as then, and then only, would the suspicion be increased by a truthful answer compared to no answer. And while that wasn't his original baseline, the motivation for the answer given implies that's the case.

I would vote for Palmar but seeing as he is me and that would once again reduce my chances to win I'm afraid I can't. But I hope people notice this contradiction in his play.

Computer says mafia
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 11:08 GMT
#293
I cant lynch this man. Rayn can you?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 11:11 GMT
#294
I have no idea what he is talking about, why is he talking about what he is talking about and how is any of this supposed to help us winning the game, so yes, i can.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 11:12 GMT
#295
To Palmar, yes, the only reasonable answers are "yes" or "no". Also no Palmar, it would not make you more likely to be mafia if you had answered "no".
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2014 11:12 GMT
#296
Just shoot him later if he doesn't play properly. I have no idea why you'd waste a lynch on that thing
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 11:13 GMT
#297
Unless you are suggesting i am mafia and therefore there are no "right answers" which is dumb in the first place and you should have still said "no".
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2014 11:14 GMT
#298
oh my god. Why are you trying to engage him reasonably on this? Are you mad?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 05 2014 11:16 GMT
#299
On March 05 2014 20:12 marvellosity wrote:
Just shoot him later if he doesn't play properly. I have no idea why you'd waste a lynch on that thing

Well he is here and that's like the only not-stupid thing to talk about atm.
Xatalos did what he did and we agree he is scummy. Artanis is probably scum or idiot for not doing anything for real besides the dumb "i picked numbers already YOLO" shit. LSB scummy or dumb. yamato went off. Hopeless said something useless. prplhz said blabla at the start of the game. I don't think you or Oats are mafia. Other people have not posted.

idk what to talk about?
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 05 2014 11:18 GMT
#300
marvellosity was signed in when posted
02-28-2014
08:15 PM ET (US)

uh, Palmar is kinda similar to me but it's hard to explain without having played some games with him.

Basically as scum he'll try but it will look not so great, not as good as when he's town
As town he'll just look really townie or he won't try at all


So let's murder LSB rather than Palmar who clearly falls into the final category right now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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