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On February 27 2014 04:02 boonetown wrote: /in As a side, is this the sort of game a new player should join? This will be my first forum game, so with that said if you think this game would not be the best for me to start out with, let me know. Thanks! ♥ I think pretty much any Mini is newbie friendly - especially since you already have the core mechanics down, this game should be just fine for you. I'd steer clear of Normal games (~25 - 30 players) until you get a feel for the medium though. That's a LOT of posts. A LOT. | ||
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On February 27 2014 04:40 Blazinghand wrote: I promise to play nice  I've decided I'm not going to make any one liner posts this game and try to have an average-length filter. Yeah sure, and I won't make porkchops this game either. *wink* | ||
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##Vote: VisceraEyes Maybe next game. | ||
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On March 04 2014 09:38 IAmRobik wrote: Yes. I'm also really eager to lynch mafia. I also make reads off of really minuscule things that no one else cares about. I'm not losing this game like I lost the last one. Also, if anyone gets modkilled for lack of activity, I'll be very very very upset. Well I hate to break it to you, but you're in for some disappointment. There's generally at least one inactivity modkill per game. Do you plan on sharing the "really minuscule things" that help to form your reads, or is this a pre-explanation of why your reads seem to come from nowhere? | ||
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On March 04 2014 09:41 IAmRobik wrote: Dandelion, Do you think it's more or less scummy that you voted me in voting thread without letting everyone in here know that you voted for me. I'm pretty sure that's sooooo effing scummy. You're #1 on my "this guy has to die" list. Let's start with this. In forum mafia games, it's generally accepted that scum will try and blend in with town and go with the grain. It's the easiest way to escape scrutiny and it requires very little effort. That being said, what do you suppose his intention is as mafia to vote for you in the voting thread and not in here? | ||
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##Vote: GGTeMpLaR Because there isn't support for the RNG. I was torn between voting for GGTemp and voting for boone here, but boone stroked the ego in saying that she wanted to play with me, so GGTemp gets the vote. GGTemplar has been more useless than me this game, and I haven't even been here playing it. Not that GGTemp has been here, but he's at the very least pretended to have opinions on people. So far those opinions have consisted of a scumread on Alak (which his posts show no indication of releasing, barring an unvote) and a townread on his DM peeps (which his posts give no explanation for). He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat. Answer for Joey: I've been inactive because I was playing Video Mafia yesterday. Lurking isn't even accurate because until this morning, I hadn't even really read the thread. | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:24 boonetown wrote: I accidentally put the GGtemplar read before the Alakaslam quote, i should take a 101 forum formatting class, FML. Just familiarize yourself with the "Preview" button.  | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:33 justanothertownie wrote: It is weird but do we know for sure if there is only one? Fakeclaiming this as scum would be the most retarded thing ever. +1 She'd have to do it with scummates austin and rayn - do you see scummates austin and rayn greenlighting this? | ||
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What do you think about GGTemplar Oats? | ||
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On March 05 2014 02:43 Grackaroni wrote: I think Boone would understand she was talking to hear teammates though if that was the scum team. This. Even entertaining the notion that she mistook the scum QT for the Foundation QT is ludicrous - it assumes that boone is either ignorant for not remembering her role PM or really really really ballsy - neither of which I am willing to attribute to boone at this time. | ||
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Like, I still don't know if it's even true because rayn and austin haven't confirmed/denied it. | ||
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On March 05 2014 03:01 Dandel Ion wrote: No BUT WE STILL LYNCHED SCUM Instead you're going for ggtemplar over her because he was a meanie-beans to you in the QT... No, that's not the case at all - I don't give a shit if he's mean to me, clearly the reason for my suspicion of him is that I saw scum motivation where I could find no town motivation in the way he posted in the QT - clearly I'm suspicious of the fact that he had a townread on Boone and voted for boone with no explanation whatsoever a few posts later. CLEARLY I have actual reasons for being suspicious of GGTemplar. Why are you trying to discredit these reasons? | ||
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On March 05 2014 04:23 IAmRobik wrote: Man, it's all Rayn's fault. I should have just not played like I wanted to do after my first game. You're intolerable. OMG dude, I'm literally trying to play the game properly with you and you're shitting on the game because of one troll. Whatever, do what you want. | ||
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On March 05 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote: Really? This is like the easiest thing in the world to do as mafia to get town credit if Dandelion and I are both town. This should be role neutral at best. The question is "why would he do it at scum". There is no credit to be had if neither of you flip, and asking you to stop plays against that aim entirely...I'm trying to get you NOT lynched, because I think you're town. | ||
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Alak is fearless in his trolling, Grack not so fearless. Between the two I'd say Grack has a higher chance of flipping scum based on what's been said, Alak more likely to flip town. I don't think they both scum, but it's possible they both town. | ||
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On March 05 2014 05:09 austinmcc wrote: You're of the opinion that they've both just been purely trolling? Nothing's non-trolly and valuable for readin'? No Alak has been providing limited opinions - I say limited because he's intentionally trying to make himself hard to understand. Grack has also been providing opinions, but what he's been doing I wouldn't classify as trolling, and that's why I say he's not fearless this game. He quickly faded off the trolling early and got to business, and I don't expect that from a town-aligned Grack. | ||
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On March 05 2014 05:32 boonetown wrote: I ask asked in the QT by Austin if it 'bothered' me that everyone was calling GGtemplar scum now. My answer was no, and I went on to say that I found it very contradicting that he would question how i felt on a templar BW, when more people were talking about me and my allignment and voting on me earlier, and he didn't once bring that up in the thread or QT. Unless I missed that, but I don't think I did. I sort of hate this game. Why the hate? | ||
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On March 05 2014 06:48 Palmar wrote: I thought I covered that with my rant on how I needed you to look town as I couldn't count on other people looking town earlier in the day. I took that as a rant directed at me rather than a challenge to the rest of town. At any rate, now that I look townie to you what do you think of GGTemp as a lynch? I'm pushing it not as an inactivity policy lynch, but based on the things he's said in the QT. I understand that's not super helpful to you, but considering what he HAS done in the thread, I can't imagine you opposing it. | ||
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On March 05 2014 07:30 Grackaroni wrote: VE what did you think of Boonetown's explanation of GGTemp's play because him saying you were both scum in QT lines up with her description of his town play. I haven't played /much/ with GGTemp, but from my experience with him this isn't his town play. And Boone's conclusion said that he's either A) not trying at all or B) Mafia. I explained why I think his entrance to the QT is more in line with a scum perspective than a townie one. He didn't sound like a paranoid townie, he sounded like scum trying to sound like a paranoid townie. | ||
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On March 05 2014 09:33 boonetown wrote: Okay templar, this is for you... I have called you out, and have even voted on you (as have a few others). In video mafia, you're a pretty easy read for me which I have already stated, and you have neglected to speak much at all in the thread. I will for now assume you are using the QT, because you just laying low and not talking at all would be super weird for me. I would like for you to at least talk a little in here, so we can get a better read on you. Tell me your thoughts on the game thus far, and how you feel about the reasons i've stated for you to be scum. You of all people know how I play, so cough it up, do you disagree with my read on you and if so, why? Note how diplomatic this is. She's supposedly suspicious of Templar too, and look at the bolded statement! Who asks a scumread if they disagree with them ABOUT themselves? Does that even make sense? To anyone? What's he supposed to say there? "Oh well you know, I wasn't convinced before but now I guess you're right I could be scum" No. He's not supposed to say anything but "no" in that situation regardless of his alignment, so why ask it? This whole post reads to me like she knows Temp is town but wants him to townread her even though she has to call him scum based on her previous posting. She's concerned about appearing consistent. It's scummy, and frankly I could lynch boone today. ##Unvote ##Vote: boonetown I'll be back tomorrow to see if she posts anything valuable to me, but right now I think she's a good lynch. | ||
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I'm going back to read, but if there's not an actual case on me in the thread by the time I catch up, heads will roll. | ||
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On March 06 2014 02:15 IAmRobik wrote: I don't know. I'm not fully caught up. I don't want to discuss Dandelion though. I've made my opinions on him well known and if I were leading the lynch today, he would be out of the game...but....you know...I'm not...so.............. Best post I've read since I woke up. | ||
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Doing stuff now. The post I quoted a second ago isn't the post I wanted to quote - it's not the best post I've read since I woke up let me go find that shiz right now. | ||
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On March 06 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote: There's a contradiction in the bolded parts. You say that her play is off and you can't get a good feel on whether she is maf or town, but that you lean scum on her (by the end of that bolded paragraph), but then you list her under "STRONG MAF" reads. I am so wishy-washy on Boone right now, I think having her as "strong maf" is quite the stretch. This is the post I was referring to. I find the contradiction simply staggering in the post Rob quotes here. | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:40 austinmcc wrote: Maaaaaaan, there are legitimate reasons to look askance at you. Crappy ones like "amg scumteam balance", less crappy ones like "VE tosses a single post on Boone into thread, votes, leaves". Okay regarding the less crappy one, it was 4 am and I went to bed. Do you disagree with the one post I made? If so, why? If not, then what's your point? | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:43 Dandel Ion wrote: The only reason I'd have for not lynching Killing is that he's not calling me scum like all the other newbies do. I don't really see a scum motivation for that. To be fair, you've gone HAM BM on anyone who even looks at you for like...every game you've ever played. Considering Killing is new, and considering he's been lurky for the most part, does it not stand to reason that he's not calling you scum because he doesn't want you to be looking too carefully at him? | ||
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That being said, I'm willing to give her more time to prove to at least me that she's just out of her medium here. ##Unvote ##Vote: Killing | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:48 Dandel Ion wrote: But he doesn't know that. And there's really no point in buddying me. Not buddying. Was asking a question. Fuck off then. | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why are you voting for Killing over ggtemplar? Because when I reread Templar before I slept I felt better about him. I see you've got a case against him now, let me go have a look-see. | ||
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On March 06 2014 03:58 justanothertownie wrote: Money question. Some not so townie people are going after killing but almost no scummy people wanting to lynch templar right now (oats, VE, killing, austin - noone is going after him). That's the way I see it. So wait, you're now calling me one of the scummy people not going after Templar? What IS your read of me JAT? | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:29 justanothertownie wrote: What are you trying to achieve here? GGTemp townreading me. | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:33 Dandel Ion wrote: VE how serious are you about your vigi claim? on a scale of 1-10 BLUEFISHING | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay now a serious question, is anyone entertaining the possibility of boone fakeclaiming here? I'm paying her claim literally zero attention. If she tries to leverage it for some reason, then I'll heed it. Otherwise it's just chaff. | ||
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I didn't claim Vigi. I said I'd shoot him. You don't know the context. YOU DON'T KNOW DI. | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:34 justanothertownie wrote: This is wrong: You being more concerned about being read as scum right now without danger of actually getting lynched over concentrating on the actual targets. Killing is my actual target. What are you even saying here? | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:36 austinmcc wrote: I didn't get anything super enlightening from VE or GGTemplar's responses to my question  What were you hoping for? I explained my thought process, do you agree or disagree? | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote: My priority list of 4 still stands. You are...............a jerk. | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: I kinda wanna lycnh VE for his bad post about boone's claim. Also ggtemplar so vote stands. Explain what you're talking about immediately. | ||
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On March 06 2014 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Her claim. Who the fuck claims (as mafia) like "HERE ARE MY 1000 READS AND THE THINGS I HAVE and btw i am medic" instead of "I AM MEDIC DONT LYNCH ME PLZ also here might be something wifom"?!?!?!!?!? really??? Let me go look - honestly I'm taking your word for it that she's claimed medic because I missed it when I read her earlier. Let me go look at what you're talking about and I'll answer you more fully. | ||
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On March 06 2014 06:08 Palmar wrote: I no longer care about this game. Everyone is refusing to play so why should I. Lynch me if you want to, I'm gonna vote and afk for the rest of the game. I'm playing the game, wtf is this? | ||
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On March 12 2014 07:58 Palmar wrote: maybe people should listen when I say I'm having a hard time figuring a game out, it happens! Maybe people should listen when I say I've figured the game out! Apparently that happens too! | ||
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On March 12 2014 17:57 Palmar wrote: A little point about this game: It really, really proves the value of NOT GETTING LYNCHED as town. For some reason staying alive, just like sheeping, is a pretty devalued skill in mafia. Everyone wants to focus on amazing reads and shit, and while those are great, the main job of any townie can simply be to not get lynched. If townies don't get lynched town wins the game by default. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Just sheep VE and win. | ||
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