Someone else should really take the lead and it should not be rayn I think. There's just something about this town between lurking/trolling/people I don't know I can't figure out.

So yeah, I'll comment on as many ideas as I can today, please start presenting cases and short reasons and I'll try my best to read those and give input.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 06 2014 23:12 GMT

#1394

On March 07 2014 08:09 justanothertownie wrote:

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You might want to explain your actions. Doesn't need a reread to do that.

I am disappointed - 2 claimed vigs and noone shot?

which actions, around the deadline?

VE was being lazy, I thought me asking him not to be would encourage him to do more stuff if he's town. VE is too good as town to not get lynched day 1 unless he's being lazy, so I was very unsure. It was just genuine confusion. I had no way of guaranteeing dandel would hammer VE so it's not as if this was some planned flip flop.

This is how I act when I end up in the situation of not knowing shit, it's sorta uncomfortable, I've known plenty about the games I'm playing since I started playing again a month or two ago, but in this one I'm just confused. Guess I'm just having a shit game.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 06 2014 23:13 GMT

#1396

On March 07 2014 08:12 justanothertownie wrote:

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Have you ever been so terribly defensive as town?

I'm not being defensive I think, I'm taking a step back to rethink what I'm doing.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 06 2014 23:14 GMT

#1397

On March 07 2014 08:12 thrawn2112 wrote:

Please stand by, the Time Vault is opening.

A Message From Hari Seldon.....

+ Show Spoiler [Open Time Vault] +

Grack and Killing both made a concerted effort to push VE amidst the void that was created once the other lynch targets started looking town. I do believe Grack and Killing to be mafia, both for this push, and for their play individually. Grack trolled most of the day and his only contribution was “lynch VE”. He is obviously mafia.

Killing is similar in that he did nothing early, which shows a lack of initiative, a trait that mafia display early on because of their information advantage and overall reactionary nature. His reads, as pointed out by many, are highly inconsistent and suspect.

I believe the other three DM players (boone, Robik, GG) to all be town. They have put in more effort than anyone else this game thus far. They all seem reasonable.

I also believe Rayn, JAT, Dandel, and Oats to be town.. I lean toward Austin being town as well, but I cannot confirm this to be the case.

Palmar is an enigma. His lynching of VE is not outside the realm of possibility of town Palmar’s play, but I do not like that he “quit” on town halfway through the day. At least pressure him to play the game again, do not ignore him.

Slam is literally the most unreadable player I’ve ever seen. His voting suggests that he’s mafia, given that he voted both boone (who I think is town) and VE, who we all know was town.

Probably from austin?

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 06 2014 23:15 GMT

#1398

Anyway, as I'll offer input on as much as I can tomorrow.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 06 2014 23:18 GMT

#1402

tbh they have put in effort, no matter their alignments they are more than welcome playing here and already a lot more fun to play with than a ton of TL lurkers.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 06 2014 23:19 GMT

#1403

ah fuck the message has austin in 3rd person.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 06 2014 23:21 GMT

#1405

On March 07 2014 08:19 Palmar wrote:
ah fuck the message has austin in 3rd person.

meh it has everyone in 3rd person. Probably should disregard it, although I don't mind people going after me, tbh if a few people tried to lynch me that would probably be okay, but only if they actively push while I'm around.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 07 2014 09:57 GMT

#1513

On March 06 2014 07:32 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't know what Palmar's deal was today.

What's the problem, didn't I end up voting your lynch target?

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 07 2014 10:03 GMT

#1515

On March 07 2014 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Palmar what's your read on ggtemplar?

His consistency in yelling at you that you're scum seems somewhat genuine. On a general note I think his stance is too controversial for him to be mafia.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 07 2014 10:10 GMT

#1517

What we really need this game is some kind of a break, either a good vigi shot, a check, or a good lynch today.

@boone, yes it's extremely normal for me as either alignment to push policy lynches. I am very, very mad that you did not get lynched yesterday as claiming on day 1 is like the worst possible play you can make. I don't give a shit about alignments, day 1 roleclaimers should always be lynched. GJ, now we have to deal with wifom for the rest of the game why you haven't been shot yet! But now it's day 2, we have some information, so it's too late to push a policy lynch on you. yaaaay. If you're mafia, gj, you just won the game, if you're town, NEVER claim day 1 again. Note, if I was mafia I would say exactly the same thing, so this is not alignment indicative.

Policy lynching = good.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 07 2014 10:11 GMT

#1518

On March 07 2014 19:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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Did you read the game i posted? His scumgame.. where he acts just like this, attacks people and not their arguments and calls everyone who calls him scum mafia.

Nevermind, i'll make a case tonight if people don't even bother to investigate anything themselves.

Might be, and tbh he did random things early and didn't come back until people were massively suspicious on him and there was a wagon. I wonder if he would've come back to the thread if VE/others weren't trying to lynch him.

And no I didn't read his scumgame, I don't do meta that I don't understand.

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 07 2014 10:28 GMT

#1520

On March 07 2014 19:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
I say we lynch Boone today, I dont see why she didnt get shot and instead scum shot austin, a potential mislynch.

I don't think austin is a potential mislynch. he was lazy early on but he came on really strong later in the day, I had even changed my mind on him before that last minute dance.

On March 06 2014 07:46 Palmar wrote:
I think austin may be town btw.

And no, we should have lynched boone yesterday. Today it's too late, today she's a claimed medic so let's just hope someone can either confirm her, or we lynch her much later in the game. Today we have to shoot for scum.

I think killing is an option, grack is an option, ggtemplar is an option... I'm not sure. Maybe I should re-look at dandel or you or rayn?

I have no idea tbh, I'm having (for some reason) a super hard time figuring this town out. Maybe I'm just having a bad game /shrug

Palmar

Iceland22634 Posts

March 07 2014 10:35 GMT

#1521

also @boone. regarding lurker vs other policy lynches. Lurker lynch is a default lynch, ie: if there's like 6-12 hours left in the day and there is no good candidate (other policies, good scum case), then you should start thinking about killing a lurker.

Pushing a lurker lynch with more than 24+ hours left in the day is just strange, who knows if the people are gonna come back and do shit.

Day 1 is all about doing efficient lynches. I'm very guilty of not being able to convince town of making a good choice on day 1. We should not have ended up on VE and that is on me too. I made the illogical conclusion that he wouldn't die easily as town when I know he has done that in the past (which is exactly why I asked him to actually play the game early).