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On March 09 2014 01:08 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2014 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really wonder why DM players like to noob claim.
I'm not claiming noob. I'm claiming that TL players don't give a fuck about anyone's opinion but their own and when someone flips town, they don't even bother analyzing the posts of dead players to see how their reads are and if they're congruent with their own. I was the only one who even started to do a reread of Austin. No one even cares to figure out why he was night killed. Like, he and VE are the only two confirmed towns in my eyes, and we know that Austin was NK'd...but no one is willing to try to figure out why? From the first couple pages of his filter that I read, Palmar should be getting a lot of heat. I didn't finish reading Austin's filter because of the bullshit that went down with Dandelion, but like, no one even bothers to do that in TL games and that's bad.
for the record, Rayn did actually try to find out why Austin was killed in the night by asking me to help him decipher what he was trying to say, Austins posts aren't that easy to read.
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On March 09 2014 01:18 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2014 01:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Nightkills speculation is really only speculation and generally there are multiple reasons why someone dies and we never know what it actually is.
Who else is scum Robik?
I just listed my top 3 people. I suppose all 3 are not together based off of interactions that they had in the game (though this is from my memory of events and not a reread, so it could be a bit fuzzy), but those are the people that have been fairly scummy in the game and I think would either flip mafia or provide us with some good insight (in the case of Joey, I think both)
I think you should rethink Rayn, but I'm pretty sure you're spot on with Joey
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On March 09 2014 02:49 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2014 02:43 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2014 02:40 Palmar wrote:On March 09 2014 02:39 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2014 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jesus christ i need a break...
JAT please post when you are back. You seem to be level-headed, let's figure this shit out. I will look in here pretty often but I have stuff to do right now. The problem with figuring this shit out is that everyone is more or less scummy this game. I usually work by POE so this is hard. Do you think rayn is town JAT? I really want your answer on that one. I really don't know. He was afk at deadline yesterday wasting his vote (he said so before though) and like I just said he isn't questioning enough people. This is the big rock in my way to getting onwards in this game. I'm pretty sure you and Oats are town, and everything I do assumes Boone is now confirmed town because she should have been lynched yesterday but that ship has sailed for now. Me/ve/austin are town too so that leaves 7 people I'm sort of flopping around on. templar, grack, dandel, slam, killing, robik, rayn. So here's the problem, who do I clear in this list? On day 1 I had robik, grack, dandel, slam all as townreads, but I wouldn't be surprised I'm wrong on some of those, especially grack hasn't really stepped up which seems contradictory to the fact that I think he wants more respect on TL mafia as town. ugh, hard game.
Im so happy you're back. Okay so, your list looks pretty good but I would move killing to the front, templar can take his place and lynch in that order. Pretty sure Robik and Rayn are town.
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On March 09 2014 03:32 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2014 03:20 boonetown wrote:On March 09 2014 01:08 IAmRobik wrote:On March 09 2014 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really wonder why DM players like to noob claim.
I'm not claiming noob. I'm claiming that TL players don't give a fuck about anyone's opinion but their own and when someone flips town, they don't even bother analyzing the posts of dead players to see how their reads are and if they're congruent with their own. I was the only one who even started to do a reread of Austin. No one even cares to figure out why he was night killed. Like, he and VE are the only two confirmed towns in my eyes, and we know that Austin was NK'd...but no one is willing to try to figure out why? From the first couple pages of his filter that I read, Palmar should be getting a lot of heat. I didn't finish reading Austin's filter because of the bullshit that went down with Dandelion, but like, no one even bothers to do that in TL games and that's bad. for the record, Rayn did actually try to find out why Austin was killed in the night by asking me to help him decipher what he was trying to say, Austins posts aren't that easy to read. If you 2 have trouble with that you could just post it in the thread, you know.
we did...
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On March 09 2014 03:33 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2014 03:31 boonetown wrote:On March 09 2014 02:49 Palmar wrote:On March 09 2014 02:43 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2014 02:40 Palmar wrote:On March 09 2014 02:39 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2014 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jesus christ i need a break...
JAT please post when you are back. You seem to be level-headed, let's figure this shit out. I will look in here pretty often but I have stuff to do right now. The problem with figuring this shit out is that everyone is more or less scummy this game. I usually work by POE so this is hard. Do you think rayn is town JAT? I really want your answer on that one. I really don't know. He was afk at deadline yesterday wasting his vote (he said so before though) and like I just said he isn't questioning enough people. This is the big rock in my way to getting onwards in this game. I'm pretty sure you and Oats are town, and everything I do assumes Boone is now confirmed town because she should have been lynched yesterday but that ship has sailed for now. Me/ve/austin are town too so that leaves 7 people I'm sort of flopping around on. templar, grack, dandel, slam, killing, robik, rayn. So here's the problem, who do I clear in this list? On day 1 I had robik, grack, dandel, slam all as townreads, but I wouldn't be surprised I'm wrong on some of those, especially grack hasn't really stepped up which seems contradictory to the fact that I think he wants more respect on TL mafia as town. ugh, hard game. Im so happy you're back. Okay so, your list looks pretty good but I would move killing to the front, templar can take his place and lynch in that order. Pretty sure Robik and Rayn are town. Wait, what? How come you are ok with his list? He thinks oats and I are town.
Yeah I am flip flopping a lot on you two. D1 i thought you were both town, start of D2 i thought you could be mafia, now after reading the last 8 pages i feel like you have both contributed separately.
I think between killing, dandel, grack and probably templar, we have the mafia team.
@dandel - can you explain your vote changes from yesterday please? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445065-foundation-mafia-voting-thread?user=Dandel Ion
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On March 09 2014 04:09 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2014 03:54 boonetown wrote:On March 09 2014 03:33 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2014 03:31 boonetown wrote:On March 09 2014 02:49 Palmar wrote:On March 09 2014 02:43 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2014 02:40 Palmar wrote:On March 09 2014 02:39 justanothertownie wrote:On March 09 2014 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jesus christ i need a break...
JAT please post when you are back. You seem to be level-headed, let's figure this shit out. I will look in here pretty often but I have stuff to do right now. The problem with figuring this shit out is that everyone is more or less scummy this game. I usually work by POE so this is hard. Do you think rayn is town JAT? I really want your answer on that one. I really don't know. He was afk at deadline yesterday wasting his vote (he said so before though) and like I just said he isn't questioning enough people. This is the big rock in my way to getting onwards in this game. I'm pretty sure you and Oats are town, and everything I do assumes Boone is now confirmed town because she should have been lynched yesterday but that ship has sailed for now. Me/ve/austin are town too so that leaves 7 people I'm sort of flopping around on. templar, grack, dandel, slam, killing, robik, rayn. So here's the problem, who do I clear in this list? On day 1 I had robik, grack, dandel, slam all as townreads, but I wouldn't be surprised I'm wrong on some of those, especially grack hasn't really stepped up which seems contradictory to the fact that I think he wants more respect on TL mafia as town. ugh, hard game. Im so happy you're back. Okay so, your list looks pretty good but I would move killing to the front, templar can take his place and lynch in that order. Pretty sure Robik and Rayn are town. Wait, what? How come you are ok with his list? He thinks oats and I are town. Yeah I am flip flopping a lot on you two. D1 i thought you were both town, start of D2 i thought you could be mafia, now after reading the last 8 pages i feel like you have both contributed separately. I think between killing, dandel, grack and probably templar, we have the mafia team. @dandel - can you explain your vote changes from yesterday please? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445065-foundation-mafia-voting-thread?user=Dandel Ion You still haven't justified those start of D2 reads btw.
Mostly it was be being paranoid that my reads were all wrong. But there was a point at which I felt like you were simply responding to a bunch of stuff with just one line, not really saying much but making sure you were active. However, the last 8-9 pages are all of you doing the opposite.
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On March 09 2014 04:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
Which
I'm pretty certain I've explained all of them either at the time or the last one onto VE today
just humor me, and go through your reason for each in one post, please.
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On March 09 2014 04:50 IAmRobik wrote:
boone...what made you vote VE over Joey yesterday?
Yesterday I was under the impression that both templar and joey were town and that austin was mafia, with VE and palmar. Joey's little blurb about how he was wrong, and wanted to figure this game out was the point in which my thoughts on him went from town to neutral but i still felt like he wouldn't be the best lynch until i heard what he actually had to say.
So here I am, waiting for him be bring something forward that makes sense, and proves he's town. I was trying to get Austin lynched yesterday tho, and removed my vote when i realized it wasn't going to happen. I wanted to make my vote count. Sorry it was on a town.
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On March 10 2014 07:22 justanothertownie wrote:
If this is how this is to be interpreted. Maybe we should solve it completely first.
this!
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On March 10 2014 07:23 Palmar wrote:
well we need to figure out that middle part.
second paragraph starts with "watch palmar, I think he is..."
"... the third mafia."
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I checked Slam N1 and he is town/scum. - -o-- ------- -a---, and I --i-- think he is mafia. His ---- did not ---r--- D2, -- --t-al-y --- ---- l-r-y --d --el---. His vote on Killing is suspicious. He is absolutely your lynch for today. I -n-- --- -h- --- v---, --- I -a- -o -s- it ----e----, so I can't help you more today.
Watch Palmar. I think he is the third mafia. His vote was bad and he has basically peaced out of this game mentally. other than him and Grack, I think that everyone else is town.
I'll have more for you D4.
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This is what I prepared last night in the off chance that i was alive.
I think there is a mafia between Palmar and Dandel. I hate how they changed their vote literally in the last minute of the lynch from KILLING/TEMPLAR to VE, ensuring his death. If there is one between the two, I'm certain it's Dandel. Now, I have flip flopped a LOT on Oats and JAT, and so, other than Grack whom i think is mafia, the other possible mafia is JAT imo. I reread joey's filter and he tries really hard not to talk to, or about either of them. JAT is mentioned more than Grack but still very seldom. Templar and Robert are town in my eyes, You're my biggest question mark but I have thought you were town for this long, I dont want to get paranoid and change that read. Alakaslam is another WTF for me but if I had to make an opinion of him on the spot, it would be town. So to sum it up, I think that Dandel, Grack and JAT are most likely scum, with Palmar trailing at the end.
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Votes on VE: Grackaroni, GGTeMpLaR, boonetown, Killing, Palmar, Dandel Ion,
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Votes on Killing: Oatsmaster, VisceraEyes, austinmcc, justanothertownie, IAmRobik,
I think the lynch order is grack/dandel as 1 & 2, i'll vote on JAT 3rd and Rayn 4th, I have waivered on Palmer and Rayn in the night based on the way Rayn Said:
On March 09 2014 07:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i think this feels good.
about the killing lynch. that seemed like someone trying to make sure they let everyone know they were FOR the lynch despite the fact that Rayn was all about templar/robert prior.
i dont want to have paranoid reads at this point, but it's happening.
@templar, i should be dead, but i assure you, i am in fact the medic
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On March 10 2014 08:57 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 08:39 boonetown wrote:
This is what I prepared last night in the off chance that i was alive.
I think there is a mafia between Palmar and Dandel. I hate how they changed their vote literally in the last minute of the lynch from KILLING/TEMPLAR to VE, ensuring his death. If there is one between the two, I'm certain it's Dandel. Now, I have flip flopped a LOT on Oats and JAT, and so, other than Grack whom i think is mafia, the other possible mafia is JAT imo. I reread joey's filter and he tries really hard not to talk to, or about either of them. JAT is mentioned more than Grack but still very seldom. Templar and Robert are town in my eyes, You're my biggest question mark but I have thought you were town for this long, I dont want to get paranoid and change that read. Alakaslam is another WTF for me but if I had to make an opinion of him on the spot, it would be town. So to sum it up, I think that Dandel, Grack and JAT are most likely scum, with Palmar trailing at the end. Any reason for why rayn isn't even mentioned in this post?
yes, it was originally written TO Rayn
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On March 10 2014 09:04 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 09:03 boonetown wrote:On March 10 2014 08:57 justanothertownie wrote:On March 10 2014 08:39 boonetown wrote:
This is what I prepared last night in the off chance that i was alive.
I think there is a mafia between Palmar and Dandel. I hate how they changed their vote literally in the last minute of the lynch from KILLING/TEMPLAR to VE, ensuring his death. If there is one between the two, I'm certain it's Dandel. Now, I have flip flopped a LOT on Oats and JAT, and so, other than Grack whom i think is mafia, the other possible mafia is JAT imo. I reread joey's filter and he tries really hard not to talk to, or about either of them. JAT is mentioned more than Grack but still very seldom. Templar and Robert are town in my eyes, You're my biggest question mark but I have thought you were town for this long, I dont want to get paranoid and change that read. Alakaslam is another WTF for me but if I had to make an opinion of him on the spot, it would be town. So to sum it up, I think that Dandel, Grack and JAT are most likely scum, with Palmar trailing at the end. Any reason for why rayn isn't even mentioned in this post? yes, it was originally written TO Rayn Nice. Now answer why I can possibly mafia together with Killing if I hammer him Day1. Go!
On Day 1 we didnt lynch Killing, so you didnt hammer him.
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On March 10 2014 14:01 IAmRobik wrote:
Ummm...it's difficult to answer this question because I made it perfectly clear that if Joey is maf then it is likely that Palmar is with him.
I could also, maybe, see a team of Boone/Rayn but like, idk. Boone is scummy for being alive after claiming medic. The fact that Hari is in the game with mason chats makes it unlikely that there are other town roles. Rayn seemed reluctant to vote Joey, but did so eventually and made some posts that kinda looked good. Dandelion looks kinda bad for voting VE over killing, but not as bad as palmar does. I think the remaining mafia is within that group of 4. (Palmar/Boone/Rayn/Dandelion)
Hari is cop, not sure if it's someone in game OR someone that is only observing it, i don't see someone in game being cop and not outting at this point so i'm very confused. I have no idea, this game was more than I should have taken on methinks. In any event, I am the medic. I should be dead in almost every sense of the word. Mafia are either killing people they think wouldn't be medic saves so that I look bad, or they are stupid for keeping me alive. Either way, I am going to be a question mark for everyone until I am either lynched or killed at night. I want to make it perfectly clear that in saying that, I am not saying to lynch me, I want to be alive, I want to stay in the game and I would love to potentially get a medic save.
I have no way of proving my role to you, but I am medic.
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On March 10 2014 14:56 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 14:53 boonetown wrote:On March 10 2014 14:01 IAmRobik wrote:
Ummm...it's difficult to answer this question because I made it perfectly clear that if Joey is maf then it is likely that Palmar is with him.
I could also, maybe, see a team of Boone/Rayn but like, idk. Boone is scummy for being alive after claiming medic. The fact that Hari is in the game with mason chats makes it unlikely that there are other town roles. Rayn seemed reluctant to vote Joey, but did so eventually and made some posts that kinda looked good. Dandelion looks kinda bad for voting VE over killing, but not as bad as palmar does. I think the remaining mafia is within that group of 4. (Palmar/Boone/Rayn/Dandelion) Hari is cop, not sure if it's someone in game OR someone that is only observing it, i don't see someone in game being cop and not outting at this point so i'm very confused. I have no idea, this game was more than I should have taken on methinks. In any event, I am the medic. I should be dead in almost every sense of the word. Mafia are either killing people they think wouldn't be medic saves so that I look bad, or they are stupid for keeping me alive. Either way, I am going to be a question mark for everyone until I am either lynched or killed at night. I want to make it perfectly clear that in saying that, I am not saying to lynch me, I want to be alive, I want to stay in the game and I would love to potentially get a medic save. I have no way of proving my role to you, but I am medic. What are your saves? Who are your top town/top mafia right now?
I cannot tell you my saves, because i'm a nerfed medic. Rayn is the only person that knows of my n1 save and I didn't mention my n2 save in the off chance that Rayn was mafia (which I don't think is the case).
I have already said who I think are mafia but I'll give you a little list
Mafia: grack/dandel are my 1&2
leaning mafia: jat/palmar but i keep getting all fucked up when i think about them cause i have had town reads on jat, and palmar has been leaning scum for me most of the game. so i'm worried i'm alive cause i'm wrong.
town: rob, rayn
leaning town: ggtemp, alaka
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On March 10 2014 14:58 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 14:53 boonetown wrote:On March 10 2014 14:01 IAmRobik wrote:
Ummm...it's difficult to answer this question because I made it perfectly clear that if Joey is maf then it is likely that Palmar is with him.
I could also, maybe, see a team of Boone/Rayn but like, idk. Boone is scummy for being alive after claiming medic. The fact that Hari is in the game with mason chats makes it unlikely that there are other town roles. Rayn seemed reluctant to vote Joey, but did so eventually and made some posts that kinda looked good. Dandelion looks kinda bad for voting VE over killing, but not as bad as palmar does. I think the remaining mafia is within that group of 4. (Palmar/Boone/Rayn/Dandelion) Hari is cop, not sure if it's someone in game OR someone that is only observing it, i don't see someone in game being cop and not outting at this point so i'm very confused. I have no idea, this game was more than I should have taken on methinks. In any event, I am the medic. I should be dead in almost every sense of the word. Mafia are either killing people they think wouldn't be medic saves so that I look bad, or they are stupid for keeping me alive. Either way, I am going to be a question mark for everyone until I am either lynched or killed at night. I want to make it perfectly clear that in saying that, I am not saying to lynch me, I want to be alive, I want to stay in the game and I would love to potentially get a medic save. I have no way of proving my role to you, but I am medic. HARI is Thrawn by definition. And Thrawn said at the start of the game that it is all WIFOM pure flavor. This is largely the basis or my vote on Palmar. Can you convince me palmar is town? Or will you vote him?
i was trying to say my thoughts out loud, maybe i shouldnt have. but hari's first post to us at start of day two helped us so i thought it was a legit role.
i cannot convince you palmar is town, i have said for the last two days that he was leaning scum for me. i would rather lynch other people today tho. if it was between palmar and someone i think is town then yes, i'd vote him but he's not someone i want to vote on at all today.
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and i'm an idiot, i put alaka in my leaning town but he's moved up to town based on Hari.
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On March 10 2014 15:02 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2014 14:59 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2014 14:56 IAmRobik wrote:On March 10 2014 14:53 Alakaslam wrote:On March 10 2014 14:50 IAmRobik wrote:Has anyone solved the Hari Seldon message yet?  STAHP NO TO WASTE TIME NO What if I told you that I solved it? I would ask why you weren't reading palmar but then go ahead and post it, I'm curious Cause it's 2am and I have 8hours at work tomorrow to read the thread and make posts I was thinking of trying to let the possibility loom that I am Hari, but fuck it. I'm not Show nested quote +I checked Slam N1 and he is town. I vote killing mafia (grack's mafia?), and i still think he is mafia. His play did not improve D2, he actually was very lurky and useless. His vote on Killing is suspicious. He is absolutely your lynch for today. I only had the one vote, and I had to use it yesterday, so I can't help you more today.
Watch Palmar. I think he is the third mafia. His vote was bad and he has basically peaced out of this game mentally. Other than him and Grack, I think that everyone else is town.
I'll have more for you D4.
you did really good on that puzzle. based on what's said, i this this was def written in the night like you said, prior to the reveal of killings flip.
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