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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 02:53 GMT
#1502
On March 07 2014 11:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why the fuck you keep calling me out for "going after easy lynches" because you are super good player and obviously you can read me so well in your opinion, so you can't possibly be an easy lynch.

Can you make some real arguments if you think i am mafia?

Cause there are a few people calling me out (one who I am trying my hardest to avoid talking about cause I'll get modkilled if I go off on him)...there are many people calling Temp out, who has provided way more content than a lot of people.

I think that Joey is _BY FAR_ the best lynch as it will reveal a lot if he flips maf. If he flips town, I think it would clear Palmar because he would have no reason to keep flip flopping at the end to draw attention to himself.

Those are my thoughts.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 02:54 GMT
#1504
Also, I may have exaggerated terrible because he flipped town.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 02:56 GMT
#1505
I made plenty of points for why Joey is mafia. i didn't yell "EVERYONE ON JOEY," but I called him out on MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, how he was contradicting himself.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 03:37 GMT
#1508
justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted
03-06-2014
03:42 PM ET (US)


Oh god this austin case... Much WIFOM.


this is SUPER FUCKING TOWNIE


GGTeMpLaR
03-06-2014
03:05 PM ET (US)
yea you make a good point actually..

if Dandel is mafia he can leave his vote on me and not get suspicion for hammering VE.


I disagree with you regarding dandelion vote. I had forgotten that his vote was on you. He was clearly around from what I remember and if he left his vote on a person that wasn't one of the top 2 wagons, that would have looked extraordinarily scummy.



I kinda like Temp right now, and his vote on VE isn't too suspicious given that VE expressed his suspicion of Temp, but I'm definitely going to be looking at Temp carefully moving forward
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 04:34 GMT
#1510
Just basing that off of what I read from your secret QT
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 04:34 GMT
#1511
It's hard for me to decipher QT time and forum time because forum time is like 15 hours ahead of my real time
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 14:29 GMT
#1564
I'm about to lose my shit.

Dandelion. I hope you're mafia, because this agenda you're pushing is the furthest thing from pro-town. People called me out for tunneling and many people have you as town, so I'm avoiding you at all costs, but seriously if you're town, you have to reevaluate how you play the game, cause you have NO FUCKING CLUE what you're doing.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 14:34 GMT
#1565
All the deflection away from Joey is fucking stupid and you people need to get your heads out of your asses. I don't even give a fuck if he's town or mafia. We had two wagons yesterday. I was bullshitting about being a vigi, but if there is a vigi, they should have shot the shit out of him last night so that we could have had more information regarding the two wagons we had.

At this point, the Joey lynch should just be fucking standard. It provides us with the most information. Anyone who says different is not playing logically....but that makes sense for this game since it's filled with several players who troll, get mislynched, get carried by their team (whichever team they're on) and think they're fucking good
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 14:36 GMT
#1568
on that note. I've cast my vote. If you want to mislynch me and put yourself in a worse position than you're in now, go for it. The amusement I'm getting from this game is non-existent. I might check in every once in a while to laugh at anyone that follows Dandelion
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 14:39 GMT
#1571
On March 07 2014 23:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
So you're only not tunneling me because people would call you out on it

That speaks volumes about your priorities.

I MADE MY CASE ON YOU. YOU CALLED IT SHIT.

YOUR CASE ON ME IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING BONKERS NONSENSICAL AND I CANNOT SEE IT COMING FROM AN INTELLIGENT HUMAN BEING UNLESS YOU'RE SCUM TRYING TO PICK AT THE SMALLEST DETAILS. YOU SAID THAT I WAS PUSHING FOR ANOTHER "MISLYNCH IN KILLING". THE ONLY THING I KNOW IS THAT YOU SWITCHED YOUR VOTE AT THE FUCKING LAST SECOND AND ACTUALLY GOT SOMEONE MISLYNCHED. HOW DOES THAT MAKE ME MORE SCUM THAN YOU WHO VOTED FOR SOMEONE WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT THEM ALL FUCKING DAY, AS OPPOSED TO ME VOTING FOR JOEY WHO I POINTED OUT AS BEING SCUMMY FOR MUCH OF DAY 1. GO BACK TO TYPING GIBBERISH. IT'S MORE USEFUL AND MAKES MORE SENSE THAN WHEN YOU TYPE IN ENGLISH.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 14:40 GMT
#1572
On March 07 2014 23:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
He's straight up admitted that he doesn't even try to find out whether people are town or mafia.

At this point even unconvinced people should policy-lynch him just based on that.

oh yea? you're trying to play the policy lynch card after you said that's what i was trying to do against you on d1? get the fuck outta here. You try calling me out for my "contradictions" and you're doing the same fucking thing.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 14:41 GMT
#1574
On March 07 2014 23:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
He's straight up admitted that he doesn't even try to find out whether people are town or mafia.

At this point even unconvinced people should policy-lynch him just based on that.

Man...I know I'm going to get banned after this game, cause everytime you post I want to wreck the shit out of you for not being able to process information.

If you're scum, I will admit, you're playing a fucking awesome game.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 14:46 GMT
#1578
It's against my win condition to vote myself, otherwise I'd fucking do it so that I don't have to see another post of yours ever again. Like....EVER AGAIN. I cannot believe there's a human being in this world that can type the shit that you type and truly believe it. You actually think you're good and you actually think I'm scum. You think your case against me is logical. THAT'S FUCKING LAUGHABLE.

Go back to where you came from Oscar the Grouch.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 15:36 GMT
#1585
On March 07 2014 21:39 Dandel Ion wrote:
Robik is scum and by far the best lynch today.

  • Only goes after easy targets

    This is not a case against me and it's bullshit. I brought up a case against Dandelion and Joey yesterday. I don't think I brought up much of a case against anyone else. Obviously Dandelion is an "easy target" because he can't really defend himself cause he hasn't done shit all game besides troll and call me out. Joey isn't an easy target at all and I pointed out many things that were incongruent in what he said

  • Tries to shift blame for the day1 mislynch like a boss just because the mislynch he was on didn't get through (just look at what he said about the VE lynch yesterday in comparison to what he's saying today)

    The only thing I know right now is that you and Palmar caused a mislynch. I don't know Joey's role for sure, but I know that my rationale for voting Joey and my reasoning behind it was infinitely better than either of the reasons that Dandelion (no reason) and Palmar (well, i think he would have defended himself better as town) gave.

  • His reads are clearly fake because they don't change naturally like they would if he was town

    my reads are 100% genuine and have changed multiple times especially with regards to Boone and Templar, the two people that I know best.

  • They also are only made to fit the 'conclusions' he's trying to push, he decided what his conclusio is first and then posts things that support it ignoring everything that doesn't.


this is bullshit nonsense that doesn't mean or say anything. If he's saying that I'm fitting my conclusion about yesterday's lynch being bad...WELL NO FUCKING SHIT, VE FLIPPED TOWN. You know what I didn't do. I DIDN'T FUCKING VOTE VE. You know what I know this game. THAT VE WAS FUCKING TOWN. I don't know Joey's alignment, but I do know that VE is town and I voted the opposite of that.

Because bitches love this shit I'm even gonna give you a prime example:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 12:37 IAmRobik wrote:
GGTeMpLaR
03-06-2014
03:05 PM ET (US)
yea you make a good point actually..

if Dandel is mafia he can leave his vote on me and not get suspicion for hammering VE.


I disagree with you regarding dandelion vote. I had forgotten that his vote was on you. He was clearly around from what I remember and if he left his vote on a person that wasn't one of the top 2 wagons, that would have looked extraordinarily scummy.

I'm extraordinarily scummy for changing my vote last minute.
However, I would also have been extraordinarily scummy for not changing my vote.

ANOTHER PRIME EXAMPLE OF HOW DANDELION'S CASE AGAINST ME IS BULLSHIT. HE SAYS I DON'T CHANGE MY OPINION ON THINGS...BUT I FUCKING DO. I don't have perfect information, so I'm analyzing things from both perspectives and trying to draw a fucking conclusion based off of the information that I have

What does that mean? That Robik doesn't think about the game. He's decided to act like he's decided I'm mafia, so now everything ever in the whole world has to mean I'm mafia. Ignoring the fact that I'm confirmed town times 20.

He does the same thing to Killing. Just yells mafia, not even trying to figure out whether that's true or not.

vote et al


It's really not a surprise that once I fucking have to reply to him, I'm instantly threatened by a modkill. Oh well. If I have to go back and forth with him all day, I'd be willing to get off of Joey and just throw down the gauntlet and have this be a useless day of me vs Dandelion.

Best case scenario: He gets lynched and he flips scum and I don't have to deal with his bullshit anymore
Worst case scenario: He get lynched and is town and I don't have to deal with his bullshit anymore
Other worst case scenario: I get mislynched and I don't have to deal with his bullshit anymore.

Almost a win-win-win from my perspective.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 15:39 GMT
#1586
On March 07 2014 23:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Also, robik: tell us exactly what is wrong with dandels case on you please. Since you think it is really bad that should be easy.

I want to hear this too. this emotional outburst is not helping you.

yea well. I'm an emotional player. I've done way more this game and put my neck out way more and have given WAY more reads than Dandelion who has done nothing but troll and tunnel on me. I can't believe that people would even consider a word that he says because everything is just straight bullshit.

Additionally, the fact that Rayn doesn't think I'm town even though this is THE EXACT SAME FUCKING THING that happened between the two of us in GSL is incomprehensible to me. I got just as emotional and I was town that game.

Anyway. I should probably take some time off. I'm 3/4 of getting warned with a modkill in games that I participate in. I think it's cause I give a shit about games (especially when I'm town), and I don't know why I torture myself and end up playing with mindless fucking trolls that do nothing but disrupt games and get called town for it.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 15:51 GMT
#1589
On March 08 2014 00:45 Palmar wrote:
Yeah you need to calm down dude. I almost want to lynch you on policy for raging like that, as it's very easy to fake as mafia (ie, it's not alignment indicative).

But whatever, we're behind, stop responding to dandel and make some smart cases then.

FOS you for voting VE, which you admitted today that your terrible reasoning was in fact wrong from the get-go
FOS anyone that jumped on your early RL of VE.
FOS Dandelion for fabricating a case against me
FOS Joey cause he's not playing his town game and he was the other wagon yesterday, so lynching him would be our best play...even our ONLY play.

Also, if there's a vigi in this game, they're bad for not shooting Joey
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 15:53 GMT
#1590
On March 08 2014 00:48 Palmar wrote:
And you probably should take a step off from your high horse. If you're losing arguments against people you label "trolls", maybe you're terrible at arguing, and tailoring your arguments to your audience.

If town is a bit dumb, you make the arguments that fit that town, you wouldn't explain shit in the same way to a class of playschool kids as you would to a group of university students. It's YOUR job to get your point through.


While typing googoogaga over and over again for an unnamed few people in this thread would help them understand what i'm saying, I'd rather just have the intelligent people understand me.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 16:04 GMT
#1594
On March 05 2014 03:08 austinmcc wrote:
I dislike Palmar. I think the way he deals with GGTemplar's unexplained reads, Robik's unexplained semi-reads into explanation, and my questioning of Robik is...inconsistent.

GGTemplar needs to explain himself, sayeth the Palmar.
Robik gives reads but doesn't explain himself.

austinmcc asks Robik to explain a read or two, and give them specifically.

Robik gives an explanation.

Robik's explanation is townie, sayeth the Palmar (agree). But the Palmar forgetteth that Robik initially posts nothing specific, and that I'm the one to question him about it. While he may not like my followup, i would PRESUME that asking people to explain their reads, is, at the very least, a somewhat green thing to do (see Palmar, who would like to look green as either alignment, asking GGTemplar to explain himself).

I do not understand how Palmar reaches his reads on the three of us given Robik's initial post and my question.


Page 1 of Austin Filter, Austin didn't like Palmar.
Also questioned Boone's motives for outing the QT.

Scum points for Palmar
Scum points for Boone.

HAVING SAID THAT: Palmar and Boone are not Mafia together based off of Palmar's insistence on the fact that Boone should have been lynched for her claim. (In before he'd say that if they were mafia together too)
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 16:07 GMT
#1596
On March 08 2014 01:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 00:51 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 08 2014 00:45 Palmar wrote:
Yeah you need to calm down dude. I almost want to lynch you on policy for raging like that, as it's very easy to fake as mafia (ie, it's not alignment indicative).

But whatever, we're behind, stop responding to dandel and make some smart cases then.

FOS you for voting VE, which you admitted today that your terrible reasoning was in fact wrong from the get-go
FOS anyone that jumped on your early RL of VE.
FOS Dandelion for fabricating a case against me
FOS Joey cause he's not playing his town game and he was the other wagon yesterday, so lynching him would be our best play...even our ONLY play.

Also, if there's a vigi in this game, they're bad for not shooting Joey

This is exactly the point dandel and rayn made. You are basing everything on the VE lynch being scummy/shitty while yesterday you were saying you would like the lynch to be between VE/Killing.

Cept I didn't choose the side of the confirmed town.....I said I'd like to lynch between VE and Killing because those were the two viable options. Voting on VE was the worse option because Boone was on VE. I'd rather hedge my bets in that spot. Also, I asked Austin to build a case against VE. I did this not to determine VE's alignment, but to determine Austin's. I would have cleared the shit out of him today because of the effort he put into making that VE case (the case was really weak), but alas, he's dead today, so it ended up not being worth it.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 07 2014 16:08 GMT
#1597
On March 08 2014 01:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 01:04 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 05 2014 03:08 austinmcc wrote:
I dislike Palmar. I think the way he deals with GGTemplar's unexplained reads, Robik's unexplained semi-reads into explanation, and my questioning of Robik is...inconsistent.

GGTemplar needs to explain himself, sayeth the Palmar.
Robik gives reads but doesn't explain himself.

austinmcc asks Robik to explain a read or two, and give them specifically.

Robik gives an explanation.

Robik's explanation is townie, sayeth the Palmar (agree). But the Palmar forgetteth that Robik initially posts nothing specific, and that I'm the one to question him about it. While he may not like my followup, i would PRESUME that asking people to explain their reads, is, at the very least, a somewhat green thing to do (see Palmar, who would like to look green as either alignment, asking GGTemplar to explain himself).

I do not understand how Palmar reaches his reads on the three of us given Robik's initial post and my question.


Page 1 of Austin Filter, Austin didn't like Palmar.
Also questioned Boone's motives for outing the QT.

Scum points for Palmar
Scum points for Boone.

HAVING SAID THAT: Palmar and Boone are not Mafia together based off of Palmar's insistence on the fact that Boone should have been lynched for her claim. (In before he'd say that if they were mafia together too)

Well, do you think Palmar is an idiot? Because if he is not then he knew that his policy would not go through.

I've never played with Palmar before, but heard good things from Chew. I read the TONE of his post to be genuine though, so that's why I draw that conclusion. Not many people believe in "tone reads" though, so take that for what you will.
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