EPTGrack looks better after chat last night. Either he's a lazy scum troll who doesn't actually go read slam and talk honestly about slam, or he's a townie who sometimes stops trolling to play, did so, and I think accurately spoke to him maybe not needing to be as sure of slam as he is.
Rayn, talk to me about VE? You said he was townier on your list than Palmar had him on Palmar's list. Por que?
To Palmar re: Hosts hiding information / second QT / etc. - + Show Spoiler +
On March 05 2014 18:13 Palmar wrote:
VE claims to be in the foundation chat.
I clarified with thrawn that his wording is CORRECT. There should only be one foundation chat at time. So whatever it is that you/austin/her are in, is not the foundation chat. One of you has a role, or the host decided to add random hidden mechanics to the game for lulz. I'm inclined to think it's the former.
So, I'm killing boonetown for roleclaiming. I thought I was gonna kill austin today for misrepresenting my position, but this kill is better.
VE claims to be in the foundation chat.
I clarified with thrawn that his wording is CORRECT. There should only be one foundation chat at time. So whatever it is that you/austin/her are in, is not the foundation chat. One of you has a role, or the host decided to add random hidden mechanics to the game for lulz. I'm inclined to think it's the former.
So, I'm killing boonetown for roleclaiming. I thought I was gonna kill austin today for misrepresenting my position, but this kill is better.
On February 26 2014 08:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
This is a semi closed setup featuring the flavor of Issac Asimov's Foundation series.
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At the start of each Day, 3 randomly selected players will be invited to the Foundation quicktopic mason group. At the start of the next day, 3 randomly selected players will join a new Foundation group and the old Foundation quicktopic will be locked. You are not allowed to share links. Nights are silent, but you but still talk with your mason group in the quicktopic. You may only use the provided quicktopics to talk to your mason buddies.
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That's all the info you get!
Semi-closed and "that's all the info you get" indicate that this isn't "random hidden mechanics for lulz", we were explicitly told that we weren't aware of everything ever.Setup
This is a semi closed setup featuring the flavor of Issac Asimov's Foundation series.
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At the start of each Day, 3 randomly selected players will be invited to the Foundation quicktopic mason group. At the start of the next day, 3 randomly selected players will join a new Foundation group and the old Foundation quicktopic will be locked. You are not allowed to share links. Nights are silent, but you but still talk with your mason group in the quicktopic. You may only use the provided quicktopics to talk to your mason buddies.
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That's all the info you get!
VE worries me, don't want to lynch right now. I can understand finding SOME things he's done townie, I cannot understand loving his post on Boone that he did however many hours ago, and that being the thing that REALLY makes your mind up on him. I'm fine with Palmar calling him town, there were some specifics that Palmar mentioned. Interested in Rayn's townread on him.
Oats is super town. He is seeing some things that townies should be seeing, and doing townie things with them. Specifically, this post: + Show Spoiler +
On March 06 2014 02:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
I have no idea why Boone thinks she will be good at this game.
This is stuff after the trolling phase though. Palmar analysed 0 content from that part of the game, only after that.
Actually read post from Boone. Actually read Palmar's stuff. Decided the two didn't match up. I agree with him that they didn't, and that Palmar what Boone says.I have no idea why Boone thinks she will be good at this game.
This is stuff after the trolling phase though. Palmar analysed 0 content from that part of the game, only after that.
I could lynch Slam. Despite being upbeat/having fun, which seems to be the only thing people have said that indicates his townieness, he wasn't ... sad trolling when I've seen him be mafia. STILL lots of wacky stuff, it's not like he posts only videos of sad clowns and decomposing animals when mafia.
Speaking on killing looks opportunistic, but oh well. His thoughts on Boone - + Show Spoiler +
Boone's first post was also obviously super scummy. I might actually be leaning her neutral because she does get hyper defensive when she's town but I wouldn't classify her as so. My first post was also super fucking awkward lol.
Boone's first past was OBVIOUSLY SUPER SCUMMY. But he MIGHT lean neutral on her, because she is hyper defensive as town but he wouldn't classify her as such (which should mean...she's scummy? If she's hyper defensive as town, isn't hyper defensive here, then...she's mafia? Yes?)On March 05 2014 02:53 Killing wrote:
Current scum team: GGtemplar, Boone, Alakzam
The only read that I liked from Boone was the read on Templar. Other than that, calling everyone's top town town + calling one of my top scum town for really shit reasons in my opinion made her look worse in my eyes. Alakzam has been scummy for me cause the second GGtemplar voted for him, his post quality went way down. I just felt the interaction was super weird and might have been scum voting on scum or something along those lines. GGtemplar is my top lynch for today because he never substantiated his reads nor did I feel they were even deserved.
Boone is mafia....por que? He likes a read of hers, he dislikes her other reads, therefore she looks....worse. Nothing EXPLICITLY to say she's mafia, just that she looks worse because of her reads.Current scum team: GGtemplar, Boone, Alakzam
The only read that I liked from Boone was the read on Templar. Other than that, calling everyone's top town town + calling one of my top scum town for really shit reasons in my opinion made her look worse in my eyes. Alakzam has been scummy for me cause the second GGtemplar voted for him, his post quality went way down. I just felt the interaction was super weird and might have been scum voting on scum or something along those lines. GGtemplar is my top lynch for today because he never substantiated his reads nor did I feel they were even deserved.
Contrast this with his Alakaslam read. Alakaslam is mafia because when GGTemplar votes him, Slam's post quality goes way down. A thing happens, Slam responds in a way that Killing finds scummy, therefore slam is scum. Or his GGtemplar read, where GGtemplar makes undeserved reads and never substantiates. In contrast to two people who did things that Killing finds scummy, Boone looks worse just for...making reads Killing disagrees with.
So far, her opening post is OBVIOUSLY SUPER SCUMMY, but she might be town maybe, but she looks worse because of her reads. There's nothing concrete.
On March 05 2014 04:52 Killing wrote:
Robik is now my top town. He's playing his exact same town game where he makes read on what seemingly is insignificant. He likes to believe that he found some proof even though it usually means and amounts to nothing. Other than that, his reasoning on Dandel is kinda bad. He's probably just tunneling on him as I'm not sure if anything Dandel has done has been that scummy. Voting GGtemplar for obvious reasons. Also VE is really high in my town list, I liked what he had to say earlier and try to fix the fight between Robik and Dandel is probably townie.
##vote GGtemplar
GGtemplar gets the vote. Read on Robik, again, some specifics about what he likes/doesn't like about Robik. Nothing on Boone at all.'Robik is now my top town. He's playing his exact same town game where he makes read on what seemingly is insignificant. He likes to believe that he found some proof even though it usually means and amounts to nothing. Other than that, his reasoning on Dandel is kinda bad. He's probably just tunneling on him as I'm not sure if anything Dandel has done has been that scummy. Voting GGtemplar for obvious reasons. Also VE is really high in my town list, I liked what he had to say earlier and try to fix the fight between Robik and Dandel is probably townie.
##vote GGtemplar
The bit that has already been pointed out:
On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.
I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.
Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?
Here are my updated reads:
Strong Town
Rob
Leaning Town:
Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion
Neutral
Grack
Oats
VE
Leaning Maf
Alakazam
Rayn
Strong Maf
Boone
I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.
I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.
Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?
Here are my updated reads:
Strong Town
Rob
Leaning Town:
Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion
Neutral
Grack
Oats
VE
Leaning Maf
Alakazam
Rayn
Strong Maf
Boone
I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify
Boone is his strongest mafia, but this isn't her town or mafia play. WHY? She can normally look very townie to him, but hasn't. Outting the QT pushed her towards scummy.....WHY? He hasn't mentioned this before. It was discussed, I don't see WHY it was scummy of her to do this.
When he explains himself later:
On March 06 2014 01:48 Killing wrote:
Boonetown
I really really hated the QT play, more so than anything else. I think it was overall ok for town since we now know there's some seconday QT mechanic in play but the revealing part seemed very awkward to me. I read it as someone that was in a deephole and wanted to either
A) Reveal something to town to try and show transparency(?) and by extent seem more town
B) Create some diversion as in that post she begins to offload her blames onto at least 1 in her QT group (not really sure how she came to that conclusion but I think she has rescinded that).
The one thing that scares me is that she does get ultra-defensive when she is town and usually takes lynches more likely as mafia (since we all hate to be mislynched). If we were playing video, I probably wouldn't kill her today but everything she has done has been pretty weird and my other scum reads are pretty light at the moment.
He hates the QT play. Except it was "overall ok for town," but the "revealing part seemed very awkward." Boonetown
I really really hated the QT play, more so than anything else. I think it was overall ok for town since we now know there's some seconday QT mechanic in play but the revealing part seemed very awkward to me. I read it as someone that was in a deephole and wanted to either
A) Reveal something to town to try and show transparency(?) and by extent seem more town
B) Create some diversion as in that post she begins to offload her blames onto at least 1 in her QT group (not really sure how she came to that conclusion but I think she has rescinded that).
The one thing that scares me is that she does get ultra-defensive when she is town and usually takes lynches more likely as mafia (since we all hate to be mislynched). If we were playing video, I probably wouldn't kill her today but everything she has done has been pretty weird and my other scum reads are pretty light at the moment.
Wat.
Outing the QT pushed her towards scummy (see his previous post)
Now outing the QT was overall ok for town, but was "revealed awkwardly"
Boone was also his STRONGEST SCUM READ, someone he's been consistently scummy-ish on, talking about as scum despite not voting or being specific, ALL DAY. But he wouldn't kill her today. She's just weird.
Again. Boone has been on his scum team all day. For reasons that are, IF ever explained, immediately contradicted (scummy for QT reveal, which was good for town, and can be explained in multiple ways) (scummy for her reads in his first couple posts, but for the entire rest of the day he forgets her reads, doesn't mention her reads, just talks about the QT or how she maybe is or isn't playing like her town/scum self).
Slam and killing my current top two. Currently wary of Slam/boone/VE/killing. Wary of rayn, but for right now I also have a nagging thought that he's town for something I ain't gonna discuss.
