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On March 05 2014 03:16 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2014 03:08 austinmcc wrote:
I dislike Palmar. I think the way he deals with GGTemplar's unexplained reads, Robik's unexplained semi-reads into explanation, and my questioning of Robik is...inconsistent.
GGTemplar needs to explain himself, sayeth the Palmar.
Robik gives reads but doesn't explain himself.
austinmcc asks Robik to explain a read or two, and give them specifically.
Robik gives an explanation.
Robik's explanation is townie, sayeth the Palmar (agree). But the Palmar forgetteth that Robik initially posts nothing specific, and that I'm the one to question him about it. While he may not like my followup, i would PRESUME that asking people to explain their reads, is, at the very least, a somewhat green thing to do (see Palmar, who would like to look green as either alignment, asking GGTemplar to explain himself).
I do not understand how Palmar reaches his reads on the three of us given Robik's initial post and my question. robik explains himself somewhat in his first posts. GGtemp just posts votes. And you have done nothing, no walls of text and 0 reads. I dont agree with this read at all. Please show me, on this doll, where Robik explained his reads and touched you Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 12:02 IAmRobik wrote:On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote:
Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys. Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
I'm sorry Austin, but the video of me touching him is off limits.
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On March 05 2014 03:16 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2014 22:11 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2014 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits. Well that is just wrong Like this post is really good in my opinion because JAT's post is really bad. I don't think this is alignment indicative at all for Dandel, he's providing an opinion on methodology which is one of the easiest things to do as scum. I'm not saying it makes him scum because town players also have opinions, I just don't think you can read much into it one way or the other. This is pretty much exactly what I'm thinking. Combined with his early game play, I'm not liking Dandelion at all.
Well then good thing your opinion doesn't mean jack shit, eh?
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On March 05 2014 03:17 Palmar wrote:
wtf this game. everyone has qt friends except me. I can be in-thread friends 
Hmm yeah ok Austin, I thought he did mention some stuff before that.
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On March 05 2014 03:18 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:17 Palmar wrote:
wtf this game. everyone has qt friends except me. I can be in-thread friends Hmm yeah ok Austin, I thought he did mention some stuff before that. No. He mentions no specific REASONS, nor does he even mention specific PEOPLE.
Thus why town might be interested in having him clarify himself.
Do you understand my thoughts on Palmar now? Do you share them? Do you 80% disagree with them?
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I reread robik's first few posts.
Its like totally different. He makes a general statement which he then backs up. GGTemp just makes really specific reads and does nothing to progress them or explain them. Different.
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On March 05 2014 03:18 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:16 IAmRobik wrote:On March 04 2014 22:11 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2014 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 04 2014 21:07 Dandel Ion wrote:On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits. Well that is just wrong Like this post is really good in my opinion because JAT's post is really bad. I don't think this is alignment indicative at all for Dandel, he's providing an opinion on methodology which is one of the easiest things to do as scum. I'm not saying it makes him scum because town players also have opinions, I just don't think you can read much into it one way or the other. This is pretty much exactly what I'm thinking. Combined with his early game play, I'm not liking Dandelion at all. Well then good thing your opinion doesn't mean jack shit, eh?
Pretty sure my opinion carries more weight around here after one game than someone who has 9000 content-less posts who gets let into games cause people want to be "entertained" rather than actually have a good competitive game of mafia.
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If you think I didn't back up what I said you're on some other planet, austin. Feel free to inquire about any of them and I'll do my best to let you into the inner workings of my brain.
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On March 05 2014 03:19 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:18 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2014 03:17 Palmar wrote:
wtf this game. everyone has qt friends except me. I can be in-thread friends Hmm yeah ok Austin, I thought he did mention some stuff before that. No. He mentions no specific REASONS, nor does he even mention specific PEOPLE. Thus why town might be interested in having him clarify himself. Do you understand my thoughts on Palmar now? Do you share them? Do you 80% disagree with them?
I really dont understand why you are comparing yourself to palmar and saying, hey he cant call me scum, Im doing the same stuff. Except thats not why hes calling you scum.
Its something really easy for scum to pick out to, a townie not explaining stuff looks bad.
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On March 05 2014 03:17 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:15 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2014 03:06 austinmcc wrote:
There is/are an/some extra QTs. Boone/rayn/myself are in one. Alignments unknown. I don't know why Boone revealed this, and I'm very interested to see more of her reasoning.
There MIGHT be scum and scum MIGHT manipulate me is, imo, a particularly bad reason for revealing this information 1/4way through D1. While there MIGHT be downsides, there also MIGHT be upsides to a QT that townies are in Whats the benefit for scum revealing it to the thread when she can try and fake a town circle? I don't think scum has a PARTICULAR benefit in claiming the QT, EXCEPT that it causes pages upon pages of people spouting nonsense about whether the QT is scum QT, or whether it's real, blah blah blah. It just drops an irrelevant piece of information into the thread that people want to talk about. Anyway, don't see MUCH of a benefit either way. But as a townie who's been in a QT, townies are like "OH YES SECRET QT LET'S MAKE PLANS AND WE'LL TRAP SCUM AND IT WILL BE AWESOME." There's...FUN and EXCITEMENT from secret QT. I don't see benefit either way, and it feels LESS townie than scummy to just reveal it D1 for what I think is poor reasoning. Some of that is colored by the fact that I overly enjoy QTs/blue roles/etc. On March 05 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:10 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:08 justanothertownie wrote:
How is the name of your qt austin? Uncle Isaac's Trampoline Emporium Are you serious here? 0% serious. But no, it's not named "Scum QT" or something. The name is irrelevant. It is not irrelevant. Are you claiming that it is the foundation qt or not? What is the name relevant to?
If you say "figuring out if you're the scumteam" then you're being silly.
If you say "figuring out if one group is lying and isn't in a qt" then you think scum is fake claiming being in a QT, something DIRECTLY COUNTERCLAIMABLE THAT RELIES ON OTHER PEOPLE SUBSTANTIATING THE LIE, and that is silly.
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On March 05 2014 03:22 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:17 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:15 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2014 03:06 austinmcc wrote:
There is/are an/some extra QTs. Boone/rayn/myself are in one. Alignments unknown. I don't know why Boone revealed this, and I'm very interested to see more of her reasoning.
There MIGHT be scum and scum MIGHT manipulate me is, imo, a particularly bad reason for revealing this information 1/4way through D1. While there MIGHT be downsides, there also MIGHT be upsides to a QT that townies are in Whats the benefit for scum revealing it to the thread when she can try and fake a town circle? I don't think scum has a PARTICULAR benefit in claiming the QT, EXCEPT that it causes pages upon pages of people spouting nonsense about whether the QT is scum QT, or whether it's real, blah blah blah. It just drops an irrelevant piece of information into the thread that people want to talk about. Anyway, don't see MUCH of a benefit either way. But as a townie who's been in a QT, townies are like "OH YES SECRET QT LET'S MAKE PLANS AND WE'LL TRAP SCUM AND IT WILL BE AWESOME." There's...FUN and EXCITEMENT from secret QT. I don't see benefit either way, and it feels LESS townie than scummy to just reveal it D1 for what I think is poor reasoning. Some of that is colored by the fact that I overly enjoy QTs/blue roles/etc. On March 05 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:10 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:08 justanothertownie wrote:
How is the name of your qt austin? Uncle Isaac's Trampoline Emporium Are you serious here? 0% serious. But no, it's not named "Scum QT" or something. The name is irrelevant. It is not irrelevant. Are you claiming that it is the foundation qt or not? What is the name relevant to? If you say "figuring out if you're the scumteam" then you're being silly. If you say "figuring out if one group is lying and isn't in a qt" then you think scum is fake claiming being in a QT, something DIRECTLY COUNTERCLAIMABLE THAT RELIES ON OTHER PEOPLE SUBSTANTIATING THE LIE, and that is silly.
Ok, let's change the task: Are you claiming that your qt is the/one of the foundation qt/s mentioned in the op?
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On March 05 2014 03:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
I reread robik's first few posts.
Its like totally different. He makes a general statement which he then backs up. GGTemp just makes really specific reads and does nothing to progress them or explain them. Different. Do you think it's townie to ask people to explain themselves?
That question sounds ridiculously stupid.
Yes, Robik backs up his statement. Only after being asked. I'm asking why, if you're town and Palmar is town, and you're asking GGTemplar to explain himself because you, as townies, want him to give specific information, me wanting someone to clarify their reads and give specific information is not, at the very least, a townie thing. Even if everything else I do is scummy.
In particular, I'm asking whether you think Palmar just skates over that entirely. I had what...like 6 and a 1/2 posts. He read Robik's answer and liked it. But there's no thought put into me making the question.
That smells to me.
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On March 05 2014 03:24 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:22 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:17 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:15 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2014 03:06 austinmcc wrote:
There is/are an/some extra QTs. Boone/rayn/myself are in one. Alignments unknown. I don't know why Boone revealed this, and I'm very interested to see more of her reasoning.
There MIGHT be scum and scum MIGHT manipulate me is, imo, a particularly bad reason for revealing this information 1/4way through D1. While there MIGHT be downsides, there also MIGHT be upsides to a QT that townies are in Whats the benefit for scum revealing it to the thread when she can try and fake a town circle? I don't think scum has a PARTICULAR benefit in claiming the QT, EXCEPT that it causes pages upon pages of people spouting nonsense about whether the QT is scum QT, or whether it's real, blah blah blah. It just drops an irrelevant piece of information into the thread that people want to talk about. Anyway, don't see MUCH of a benefit either way. But as a townie who's been in a QT, townies are like "OH YES SECRET QT LET'S MAKE PLANS AND WE'LL TRAP SCUM AND IT WILL BE AWESOME." There's...FUN and EXCITEMENT from secret QT. I don't see benefit either way, and it feels LESS townie than scummy to just reveal it D1 for what I think is poor reasoning. Some of that is colored by the fact that I overly enjoy QTs/blue roles/etc. On March 05 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:10 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:08 justanothertownie wrote:
How is the name of your qt austin? Uncle Isaac's Trampoline Emporium Are you serious here? 0% serious. But no, it's not named "Scum QT" or something. The name is irrelevant. It is not irrelevant. Are you claiming that it is the foundation qt or not? What is the name relevant to? If you say "figuring out if you're the scumteam" then you're being silly. If you say "figuring out if one group is lying and isn't in a qt" then you think scum is fake claiming being in a QT, something DIRECTLY COUNTERCLAIMABLE THAT RELIES ON OTHER PEOPLE SUBSTANTIATING THE LIE, and that is silly. Ok, let's change the task: Are you claiming that your qt is the/one of the foundation qt/s mentioned in the op? See the second response.
If you think boone or I claim to be the foundation QT AND VE claims to be the foundation QT, then someone is SUPER DUPER LYING ABOUT SOMETHING THEY CAN'T SINGLE OR DOUBLE-HANDEDLY LIE ABOUT.
This would be a terrible idea.
Therefore, it's fantastically unlikely that we are both claiming to be the single foundation QT mentioned in the OP.
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On March 05 2014 03:24 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
I reread robik's first few posts.
Its like totally different. He makes a general statement which he then backs up. GGTemp just makes really specific reads and does nothing to progress them or explain them. Different. Do you think it's townie to ask people to explain themselves? That question sounds ridiculously stupid. Yes, Robik backs up his statement. Only after being asked. I'm asking why, if you're town and Palmar is town, and you're asking GGTemplar to explain himself because you, as townies, want him to give specific information, me wanting someone to clarify their reads and give specific information is not, at the very least, a townie thing. Even if everything else I do is scummy. In particular, I'm asking whether you think Palmar just skates over that entirely. I had what...like 6 and a 1/2 posts. He read Robik's answer and liked it. But there's no thought put into me making the question. That smells to me.
nah its not townie.
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On March 05 2014 03:26 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:24 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:22 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:17 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:15 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2014 03:06 austinmcc wrote:
There is/are an/some extra QTs. Boone/rayn/myself are in one. Alignments unknown. I don't know why Boone revealed this, and I'm very interested to see more of her reasoning.
There MIGHT be scum and scum MIGHT manipulate me is, imo, a particularly bad reason for revealing this information 1/4way through D1. While there MIGHT be downsides, there also MIGHT be upsides to a QT that townies are in Whats the benefit for scum revealing it to the thread when she can try and fake a town circle? I don't think scum has a PARTICULAR benefit in claiming the QT, EXCEPT that it causes pages upon pages of people spouting nonsense about whether the QT is scum QT, or whether it's real, blah blah blah. It just drops an irrelevant piece of information into the thread that people want to talk about. Anyway, don't see MUCH of a benefit either way. But as a townie who's been in a QT, townies are like "OH YES SECRET QT LET'S MAKE PLANS AND WE'LL TRAP SCUM AND IT WILL BE AWESOME." There's...FUN and EXCITEMENT from secret QT. I don't see benefit either way, and it feels LESS townie than scummy to just reveal it D1 for what I think is poor reasoning. Some of that is colored by the fact that I overly enjoy QTs/blue roles/etc. On March 05 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:10 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:08 justanothertownie wrote:
How is the name of your qt austin? Uncle Isaac's Trampoline Emporium Are you serious here? 0% serious. But no, it's not named "Scum QT" or something. The name is irrelevant. It is not irrelevant. Are you claiming that it is the foundation qt or not? What is the name relevant to? If you say "figuring out if you're the scumteam" then you're being silly. If you say "figuring out if one group is lying and isn't in a qt" then you think scum is fake claiming being in a QT, something DIRECTLY COUNTERCLAIMABLE THAT RELIES ON OTHER PEOPLE SUBSTANTIATING THE LIE, and that is silly. Ok, let's change the task: Are you claiming that your qt is the/one of the foundation qt/s mentioned in the op? See the second response. If you think boone or I claim to be the foundation QT AND VE claims to be the foundation QT, then someone is SUPER DUPER LYING ABOUT SOMETHING THEY CAN'T SINGLE OR DOUBLE-HANDEDLY LIE ABOUT. This would be a terrible idea. Therefore, it's fantastically unlikely that we are both claiming to be the single foundation QT mentioned in the OP.
Why can't you just answer the fucking question? I know what VE claimed and I know that it is TRUE.
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On March 05 2014 03:27 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:26 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:24 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:22 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:17 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:15 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2014 03:06 austinmcc wrote:
There is/are an/some extra QTs. Boone/rayn/myself are in one. Alignments unknown. I don't know why Boone revealed this, and I'm very interested to see more of her reasoning.
There MIGHT be scum and scum MIGHT manipulate me is, imo, a particularly bad reason for revealing this information 1/4way through D1. While there MIGHT be downsides, there also MIGHT be upsides to a QT that townies are in Whats the benefit for scum revealing it to the thread when she can try and fake a town circle? I don't think scum has a PARTICULAR benefit in claiming the QT, EXCEPT that it causes pages upon pages of people spouting nonsense about whether the QT is scum QT, or whether it's real, blah blah blah. It just drops an irrelevant piece of information into the thread that people want to talk about. Anyway, don't see MUCH of a benefit either way. But as a townie who's been in a QT, townies are like "OH YES SECRET QT LET'S MAKE PLANS AND WE'LL TRAP SCUM AND IT WILL BE AWESOME." There's...FUN and EXCITEMENT from secret QT. I don't see benefit either way, and it feels LESS townie than scummy to just reveal it D1 for what I think is poor reasoning. Some of that is colored by the fact that I overly enjoy QTs/blue roles/etc. On March 05 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:10 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:08 justanothertownie wrote:
How is the name of your qt austin? Uncle Isaac's Trampoline Emporium Are you serious here? 0% serious. But no, it's not named "Scum QT" or something. The name is irrelevant. It is not irrelevant. Are you claiming that it is the foundation qt or not? What is the name relevant to? If you say "figuring out if you're the scumteam" then you're being silly. If you say "figuring out if one group is lying and isn't in a qt" then you think scum is fake claiming being in a QT, something DIRECTLY COUNTERCLAIMABLE THAT RELIES ON OTHER PEOPLE SUBSTANTIATING THE LIE, and that is silly. Ok, let's change the task: Are you claiming that your qt is the/one of the foundation qt/s mentioned in the op? See the second response. If you think boone or I claim to be the foundation QT AND VE claims to be the foundation QT, then someone is SUPER DUPER LYING ABOUT SOMETHING THEY CAN'T SINGLE OR DOUBLE-HANDEDLY LIE ABOUT. This would be a terrible idea. Therefore, it's fantastically unlikely that we are both claiming to be the single foundation QT mentioned in the OP. Why can't you just answer the fucking question? I know what VE claimed and I know that it is TRUE. Then you already have your answer.
We're not the foundation QT.
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@NAT - My read on alakaslam has developed over the course of the entire thread. Rereading made me more confident in what I was writing though. I'm not trying to play myself down, I'm just trying to be open and honest about the way I feel the game is going and my own personal part in this game.
@Dandel - I wasn't worried I was going to look like a sheep, this is exactly what I'm talking about when I said people are taking what I say out of context. I said that my first post was making it clear that I wasn't going to bandwagon. If everyone started doing it and I just joined in with no explanation and a "haha, lets RNG the shit out of this guy" or if I just decided not to vote for him because screw RNG, then that would have been harped on as well.
I am telling you all, I'm going to try my best to find the mafia, get my own reads and vote the way I want to vote, based on the knowledge I feel I will or have acquired. I had also hoped that in saying that I wasn't going to vote for VE based on the RNG, that anyone else who didn't want to do an RNG vote would step up. Unfortunately it back fired, we're talking about it as if it was the worst thing in the world that I could have said as a starting post. I realize that the way I'm playing is scummy to you guys because you don't know the way I play, the way I think or the goal behind the decisions I make. I assure you, my goal is the same as yours, to find the mafia and lynch them. Do not let me be a mislynch because a handful of people have decided to take small things and make them huge.
For example, when Robert said
Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia.
No where did I say I 'respected RNGsus', this is someone taking what i said out of context, and other people jumped all over it. If you cannot see that I'm town based on the way I have responded and the way people have jumped all over me, then I fear you will never see me as town.
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On March 05 2014 03:28 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:27 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:26 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:24 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:22 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:17 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:15 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2014 03:06 austinmcc wrote:
There is/are an/some extra QTs. Boone/rayn/myself are in one. Alignments unknown. I don't know why Boone revealed this, and I'm very interested to see more of her reasoning.
There MIGHT be scum and scum MIGHT manipulate me is, imo, a particularly bad reason for revealing this information 1/4way through D1. While there MIGHT be downsides, there also MIGHT be upsides to a QT that townies are in Whats the benefit for scum revealing it to the thread when she can try and fake a town circle? I don't think scum has a PARTICULAR benefit in claiming the QT, EXCEPT that it causes pages upon pages of people spouting nonsense about whether the QT is scum QT, or whether it's real, blah blah blah. It just drops an irrelevant piece of information into the thread that people want to talk about. Anyway, don't see MUCH of a benefit either way. But as a townie who's been in a QT, townies are like "OH YES SECRET QT LET'S MAKE PLANS AND WE'LL TRAP SCUM AND IT WILL BE AWESOME." There's...FUN and EXCITEMENT from secret QT. I don't see benefit either way, and it feels LESS townie than scummy to just reveal it D1 for what I think is poor reasoning. Some of that is colored by the fact that I overly enjoy QTs/blue roles/etc. On March 05 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:On March 05 2014 03:10 austinmcc wrote:On March 05 2014 03:08 justanothertownie wrote:
How is the name of your qt austin? Uncle Isaac's Trampoline Emporium Are you serious here? 0% serious. But no, it's not named "Scum QT" or something. The name is irrelevant. It is not irrelevant. Are you claiming that it is the foundation qt or not? What is the name relevant to? If you say "figuring out if you're the scumteam" then you're being silly. If you say "figuring out if one group is lying and isn't in a qt" then you think scum is fake claiming being in a QT, something DIRECTLY COUNTERCLAIMABLE THAT RELIES ON OTHER PEOPLE SUBSTANTIATING THE LIE, and that is silly. Ok, let's change the task: Are you claiming that your qt is the/one of the foundation qt/s mentioned in the op? See the second response. If you think boone or I claim to be the foundation QT AND VE claims to be the foundation QT, then someone is SUPER DUPER LYING ABOUT SOMETHING THEY CAN'T SINGLE OR DOUBLE-HANDEDLY LIE ABOUT. This would be a terrible idea. Therefore, it's fantastically unlikely that we are both claiming to be the single foundation QT mentioned in the OP. Why can't you just answer the fucking question? I know what VE claimed and I know that it is TRUE. Then you already have your answer. We're not the foundation QT.
Ok. So you are not only masoned for this cycle?
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