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On March 05 2014 06:47 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 02:53 Killing wrote:On March 05 2014 02:47 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2014 02:41 Killing wrote:On March 05 2014 02:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far? Question isn't for me but answering anyways. Everyone is playing very differently except for Robik. He usually just goes super aggro on his reads and is always too certain of them. I wouldn't say how he has acted has been alignment indicative so far as he does it as both town and mafia. I get a better read on him as the first day goes on. He shows himself at the end of day 1 imo. Templar is probably atm the scummiest of all the DM players for me. He rarely gives out his reads with providing extensive reasoning. So what do you think of Boon calling Robik's play different from video and using that to read him when everyone is playing different anyway unless she thinks all the DM people are scum. Who else is scum? Current scum team: GGtemplar, Boone, Alakzam The only read that I liked from Boone was the read on Templar. Other than that, calling everyone's top town town + calling one of my top scum town for really shit reasons in my opinion made her look worse in my eyes. Alakzam has been scummy for me cause the second GGtemplar voted for him, his post quality went way down. I just felt the interaction was super weird and might have been scum voting on scum or something along those lines. GGtemplar is my top lynch for today because he never substantiated his reads nor did I feel they were even deserved. What was weird about it? You can't just say shit like that without quoting and explaining. GGtemplar lynch at the time this post is made is a lurker lynch. I'm always slightly suspicious of people actively pushing lurker lynches in early day 1, but I guess a few people are doing it and they aren't all scum.
I mentioned it above. The second after GGtemplar just decided to vote for him after giving minimal reasoning, Alakzam switched from serious posts to just plain trolling.
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Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.
I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.
Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?
Here are my updated reads:
Strong Town
Rob
Leaning Town:
Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion
Neutral
Grack
Oats
VE
Leaning Maf
Alakazam
Rayn
Strong Maf
Boone
I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify
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@rayn
I don't play much forum mafia but all you do is talk shit about other players when you're pretty terrible yourself.
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As I said before, in video mafia, GGtemplar only goes into his crazy plans/theories when he's town. It's possible that he has done that in forum mafia but I've never seen it from him in forum mafia. Even after that post, everything I've read from him I could read in his town voice. I guess I can kind of read him differently that how I can everyone else in this game.
Rayn
You've honestly been just a shit poster for me this entire game. All you do is mostly call people terrible, tell them their reads are terrible or just plain disagree with others without giving much of your own thoughts. Although I'm usually the one to call people terrible, it's quite tiring to read through and I think it's overall bad for town. People that do not have town's best interests in mind are usually my top scum.
Alakazam
He also has posted very little content and hasn't tried to push town foward that much (I guess something I'm guilty of as well). I don't know what it is but everytime, my mind is just screaming scum. I guess it's just one of those gut things more than anything else. It seems most of town is reading town so if someone can give me a good detailed explanation why his nothingness constitues town that would be cool. I assume it's something to do with previous games and how he plays alignments differently.
Boonetown
I really really hated the QT play, more so than anything else. I think it was overall ok for town since we now know there's some seconday QT mechanic in play but the revealing part seemed very awkward to me. I read it as someone that was in a deephole and wanted to either
A) Reveal something to town to try and show transparency(?) and by extent seem more town
B) Create some diversion as in that post she begins to offload her blames onto at least 1 in her QT group (not really sure how she came to that conclusion but I think she has rescinded that).
The one thing that scares me is that she does get ultra-defensive when she is town and usually takes lynches more likely as mafia (since we all hate to be mislynched). If we were playing video, I probably wouldn't kill her today but everything she has done has been pretty weird and my other scum reads are pretty light at the moment.
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Lists fucking rule the universe
@Rayn
If you think you have posted enough original thoughts to help town, you are either mafia or delusional
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Or rather enough original posts to make me think you're town
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I'm here, incoming nerd essay
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Ok, so I don't really know where to start with this. I read a bit that people hated what I had to say earlier so I went to re-read it and couldn't stop laughing at how terrible it was. I think I've been going about playing thsi shit completely wrong. I was just straight up making shit up and pretending to know what I was talking about. I'm so used to knowing exactly what's going on and to having strong reads that I think I was compensating but trying to give too much except that it was all obvious garbage. It's really uncomfortable being in this position where I really don't know what's going on even though I wish I did.
Everything I've done up to now has deserved a lynch. I've played pretty fucking terribly and none of my reads are actually that good. I def gonna start playing differently starting now since I've recognized what's been going on. The most I can do for town right now is prove to you somehow that I'm town. I'm basically starting over from now. I've scrapped basically all my reads and I'm probably going to go and re-read most of the game again with a different mindset.
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Austin, if you somehow found out I was town, who would be your lynch
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On March 06 2014 06:39 austinmcc wrote:
What did he admit that he was wrong about?
Filter me, it's a couple pages back. I'm starting my game over again because everything I've written so far was pretty terrible.
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I can confirm GGtemplar's post is correct LOL
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On March 06 2014 06:44 austinmcc wrote:You said he's "willing to admit his faults" here, and "unwilling to admit he's wrong" when he plays scum. I personally think that's a misrepresentation of this Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 05:26 Killing wrote:
Ok, so I don't really know where to start with this. I read a bit that people hated what I had to say earlier so I went to re-read it and couldn't stop laughing at how terrible it was. I think I've been going about playing thsi shit completely wrong. I was just straight up making shit up and pretending to know what I was talking about. I'm so used to knowing exactly what's going on and to having strong reads that I think I was compensating but trying to give too much except that it was all obvious garbage. It's really uncomfortable being in this position where I really don't know what's going on even though I wish I did.
Everything I've done up to now has deserved a lynch. I've played pretty fucking terribly and none of my reads are actually that good. I def gonna start playing differently starting now since I've recognized what's been going on. The most I can do for town right now is prove to you somehow that I'm town. I'm basically starting over from now. I've scrapped basically all my reads and I'm probably going to go and re-read most of the game again with a different mindset.
Especially things like Show nested quote +I've played pretty fucking terribly and none of my reads are actually that good. Show nested quote + I was just straight up making shit up and pretending to know what I was talking about. As to the first, how does he know his reads are bad? Nobody has flipped. He has no way of knowing whether his reads are good, bad, 50/50, anything. He's apologizing for having BAD READS on D1 when we don't know any alignments. In the second bit, he says he was STRAIGHT UP MAKING SHIT UP. You don't "apologize" for making shit up, or "admit that you were wrong" to make shit up. You don't make everything up and go "oops, it was wrong to do that." You KNOW it's wrong to MANUFACTURE FALSE STUFF. I don't think saying "i screwed up by making shit up" is a ... townie apology. Making shit up is a BAD THING. It's a SCUMMY THING. Manufacturing reads is straight up scummy, and saying you did it doesn't make it townie. I am grilling you because I think when you say him apologizing = town, you gloss over the specifics of what he said he's done and will do. "My posts were scummy and my reads were bad (but I can't know this) and I made stuff up, but I'll scrap some of that and PROBABLY go re-read the thred" is not, imo, a townie thing at all.
WELL I DIDN'T REALLY WANNA JUST SIT THERE AS TOWN AND SAY THE FUCK IS GOING ON but at this point I think it's best for my game as well as overall town.
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That's cool man and I respect your opinion but I'm not going to not admit my faults for fear of being read as scum. I'm gonna play my game and if you read me as town for doing so that's good if not then that's too bad if we're both town
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##Vote VisceraEyes
I think GGTemplar is town which really only leaves me with one option.
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I really have no good reads on anyone except for the DM players whom I think are all town. Considering that, two of my town reads are voting on VE and I have no strong scum read on anyone else. At the moment, he's my best option from my eyes.
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GGTemplar
Robik
Boone
are the DM players.
GGtemplar: After going over his posts, I have the strong feeling that he's town. He hasn't been trying to lead any one lynch nor has he just straight up tunneled on anyone that is town. I feel like he's trying to figure out the game and that he's constantly reconsidering his reads. I think he would have pushed on me a lot harder than he did when I was an easy lynch a couple of hours ago.
Boone: She claimed medic and I kinda beleive her so she's off the table.
Robik: He's trying playing his typical town play which is scrutinize everything everyone says and nit pick at anything. If he find something that he believes might be a sign of scum, he'll go really hard on that person. If he's mafia, I believe he'd be less active towards the end of the day since he isn't the target but he's still been active.
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Holy shit boys. This is not going well.
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I'm town sorry i'm terrible. guess i'm dead
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On March 07 2014 08:37 boonetown wrote:
That being said, killing you have had 24 hours to "renew" your game, give me something good or I cannot read you the same as I do in video mafia.
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DO NOT FEAR
FOR I AM HERE
I HAVE LIVED THROUGH THE NIGHT
AND CAN NOW RELIEVE THIS PLIGHT
A BLIND MAN MUST LEAD
THAT IS WHAT WE NEED
ALL SCUM MUST FEAR
FOR I AM HERE
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EPT
