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IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 14:53 GMT

#2541

On March 11 2014 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:

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About which one of the 2 Palmars are we talking here?

clearly the rationale, honest one.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 16:04 GMT

#2550

I'm at work, but I'm here. We're not being productive and if Palmar is town, he's still not doing dick, so like, I'm perfectly happy to lynch him cause he's probably mafia. And at the end of the game if he flips town and calls us bad for lynching him, well it's his fucking fault cause he's "confused" but didn't put the effort into the game that it deserved.

Palmar from QT:

the difference is I am perfectly aware I'm not playing well this game. I've said so numerous times in the thread. If me playing badly for a game means that you're unable to discern between genuine confusion and mafia agenda, then that makes you no better this game than I am.

I play a ton of games, last three games I've played as town I've been spot on, I said pretty early on this game that I simply couldn't figure it out, hence "I'm having a bad game". It happens to everyone that isn't marv/syllo every once in a while.

So, this is the question. You seem to be under the impression you're playing a good game. I can't argue with your results, but how about you show that when there's actual pressure to do so. I am not mafia, none of the points you brought up make me mafia and I explained why. I don't think you are mafia (remember, I called you town very early in the game, I never voted for you on day 2 and went for killing instead, go read my day 2 filter).

If I am right that you're town, you should see that I did not look for the easy lynch by jumping on Dandel's bandwagon yesterday. I could have, but I didn't.

So I'm challenging you to really think about what you're doing. I mean, if you do and come back thinking I'm still mafia, so be it, and if you manage to get me lynched that's my bad, but don't claim in the post-game or after the flip that it was because I was playing scummy, because I am not, and I can go through great detail explaining why.

If you're town this game palmar, you're a lazy POS and you should be rereading and trying to solve the game, not doing jack shit, having superficial interactions with yourself and with JAT.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 16:48 GMT

#2564

Boone,

You know very well that you're off the table for one reason and one reason alone, otherwise you would have been BURIED already. I am tired of these excuses "i'm getting used to this medium" blah blah fucking blah. I want cases on people. I want you to tell me why certain people are town and why certain people are mafia. I don't care if you're wishy washy about it, but like read people and give them +/- points either way. Take some sort of stance besides

On March 12 2014 01:44 boonetown wrote:
I still think Templar is probably town but I don't understand his game play style, but that's just me getting used to the way people play on forum mafia.

Like this isn't Boonetown. This is Boonemafia. This is even worse than Boonemafia. This is BoonemafiaIdon'tgiveashit.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 16:51 GMT

#2567

My lynches today are Grack and Palmar with a sprinkle of Dandelion. I know that Rayn is gonna keep pushing Templar, but I refuse to vote on him and think he'd be a terrible lynch...About as terrible a lynch as Rayn thinks Dandelion is.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 16:59 GMT

#2578

On March 12 2014 01:56 Palmar wrote:

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I like how you're doing exactly the same shit to me today as Dandel did to you yesterday that made you go mental.

Don't ignore me buddy.

I've already pointed out what I thought was scummy about you. You didn't really respond other than 'well, i'm confused this game and I suck this game so uhhh, yea. I can't be mafia cause I flipped off of mafia and onto town"

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 17:02 GMT

#2580

Joey is a terrible mafia and an OK town at best. I don't know where you go about respecting his game the way you do. Joey clearly gave up at some point (pretty certain he thought he was lynched on d1). Dandelion and Palmar saved the shit outta him after JAT and I tried to lynch his scummy ass

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 17:15 GMT

#2589

This string makes me think Grack could be town:

On March 06 2014 04:24 Grackaroni wrote:
Killing's probably the more likely scum of the two.

On March 06 2014 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
The grackaroni hath fail sheep to get. But once fail perhaps win

##Unvote: VE
##Vote: Killing

On March 06 2014 05:20 Grackaroni wrote:

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I'm basically just sheeping between the two.

Austin and Robik pointed out some strange contradictions from killing's reads and I put some faith in Boone's reads of the DM players.

Having said the above, do you guys believe that this is a rational reaction to Joey's woe is me post?

On March 06 2014 05:29 Grackaroni wrote:

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lol ok this guy is not mafia.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 17:21 GMT

#2594

On March 12 2014 02:16 Palmar wrote:

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then respond to it. For reference your reasons are here:

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And my response is here:

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If you are not going to change your mind, you have to explain why my rebuttal is not satisfactory. Feel free to call me mafia but your thought process needs to be entirely in the thread for everyone to see, if you successfully lynch me it'll be there for everyone to scrutinize after I flip.

your 4 explanatory points mean nothing.
1) You didn't push jack shit onto Killing. The two people that jumped onto killing after you (killing still wasn't the lynch target at this point) were me and JAT. I assure you that your vote did not influence my decision not ONE FUCKING IOTA. Unless JAT comes here and says that you influenced his vote, then point 1 is absolutely null and is you pulling at strings to give yourself some random fucking town cred that you don't deserve

2) this is just you saying that you suck. I can agree with point 2

3) This is an excuse. Cool. Your effort the previous day was lackluster as well.

4) I don't know. Grack has had his ups and downs this game, but he's definitely one of my top scum candidates.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 17:26 GMT

#2598

Boone:

Grack, you tried pretty hard on D1 to not talk about killing and to try and understand templar's play so that you could say based on other people's reads, that he's town. I might be reading it wrong, but that's what I took from it. I guess in this case, there could be a world where you and Templar are mafia together. I just don't want to live in that world.

Did you even read the filter before posting? Like, are you making everything up as you go along? WTF are you doing? Not only is this plain wrong, but I JUST MADE A POST WHERE GRACK DISCUSSES KILLING IN 3-4 SEPARATE POSTS AND THERE ARE EVEN MORE THAT I DIDN'T BOTHER QUOTING.

I'm --> <-- this close to lynching you over ANYONE.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 17:34 GMT

#2605

I have a crazy fucking idea that will probably detract from actual scumhunting, but I wanna test it out. Anyone mind?

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 17:39 GMT

#2612

over half of your posts on d1 were about rando lynching VE and questioning austin. you didn't even give rationale for either of your vote flops at the end.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 17:41 GMT

#2616

On March 12 2014 02:38 boonetown wrote:

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Joey has some God-Like plays, you cannot deny that. He's not a mediocre player when he's trying, but when he doesn't try... he's shit. Where are you trying to go with this? You keep poking at me as if you want to insinuate that I'm mafia or bad or whatever the fuck it is you want to say, without really saying anything.

Out with it.

I said it plenty clear. I think you're mafia. Besides Joey's shitty d1, I voted him over VE because you voted for VE and I thought that your claim sucked a big fat one. If you didn't claim medic and if we would have actually gotten my d1 target lynched, I would have pushed the shit out of you d2. Your contributions to this game are inconsequential and unremarkable and I expect more from boonertown...i'd even expect more from boonermafia, but meh...her town game is better

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 17:54 GMT

#2638

I don't know why, but this reads very contradictory to me. I know you say you haven't been around, but it seems that you know that his play has changed and you still decided that he didn't fight hard enough so you lynched him, even though he hasn't been fighting hard lately.

To be honest, from the couple games of video mafia that I've played with VE, I would have 100% locked him as town. He actually tries as mafia and has rational thoughts that he wants to get out, whereas as town he just doesn't give a damn and just says what he wants to say when he wants to say it.

On March 09 2014 02:38 Palmar wrote:

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I made it happen. And because he shouldn't be an easy lynch on day 1 as town, his lack of standing up for himself in the thread or even trying to get the lynch off him made me think he could be mafia.

On March 09 2014 02:50 Palmar wrote:

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VE _used_ to be super townie on day 1, you can probably find old games with me saying that VE's best quality is that he is always wrong and always look super green. VE has changed his play up quite a bit during the time I've mostly been away.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 17:57 GMT

#2640

Crazy theory time:

What if we ask Hari questions to better lead us. Instead of him just giving us information he thinks we should have, maybe we can ask questions and he can answer them to us based off of information that we would find useful. Maybe find out if he was a player in the game. Maybe determine if he has other checks/medic saves/other voting powers, etc. Maybe he knows if there are other "PRs" in the game besides himself.

I know it's outlandish, but it's something that I've been brewing over since the cryptic post at the beginning of the day.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 18:49 GMT

#2669

HARI: DO YOU BELIEVE BOONE'S CLAIM?
HARI: WERE/ARE YOU A PLAYER IN THIS GAME OR ARE YOU JUST AN OBSERVER
HARI: WHAT SPECIAL POWERS DO YOU HAVE REMAINING AT YOUR DISPOSAL?
HARI: HAVE YOUR OPINIONS ON THE GAME CHANGED AT ALL?

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 18:50 GMT

#2671

On March 12 2014 03:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:

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On March 09 2014 00:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Throughout this whole game, I havent felt like Rayn really wanted to solve the game and thats one of my biggest problems with him.
Also contradictory.

On March 05 2014 13:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On March 05 2014 13:01 Alakaslam wrote:

On March 05 2014 12:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On March 05 2014 04:38 boonetown wrote:

On March 05 2014 04:34 justanothertownie wrote:

On March 05 2014 04:33 boonetown wrote:

On March 05 2014 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:

On March 05 2014 04:28 boonetown wrote:
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Austin is leaning town more and more, which is unfortunate because I was pretty happy thinking I found a mafia in the QT. GGtemp, if you have ever seen him play, is the most paranoid town player in the history of mafia, ever. He would rather sleep every single day of the game in order to not mislynch someone. He only votes if he's mafia, or if he knows the vote won't go through, as a trolly way to make it look like he made a choice. Either templar isn't even trying, or he's mafia. That's where I'm currently at with his allignment.

Is austin leaning town because of qt or thread activity?

Both, but more so what has been recently posted in the QT. Could be a show, but seems very genuine.

Has rayn posted in there? What is your opinion on him?

Rayn has posted very little, but I really liked that he asked if we should bring the QT to the thread and let people know about it. Rayn. I think based on early gut reads and reactions Rayn is town. I had stated earlier that if there were mafia between the two I thought it was Austin, now that my read on him is changing I'm going to have to reread Rayn in the thread and see if my read on Rayn adapts as well. For now, They could both potentially be town, which would be great for the purpose of the QT.

Not true. I asked austin if he thinks using the QT is a good idea or not. Pay attention, this was not a good idea.

On March 05 2014 06:51 Grackaroni wrote:
It's kind of strange to me that Rayn wanted to policy lynch me this game when he hasn't really tried to do it in other games, but maybe he's just really sick of my play.

Other than that nothing besides the Austin attack sticks out to me.

Not true. I voted you for pure policy in SMB and i will do it every game you play like that. A question, am i supposed to read Palmar as mafia in your opinion? If not, why the fuck am i scum for it?

Didn't GGTeMpLar just call Slam town and mafia?

I think? I'm not really sure even.

Look at the vote thread rayn, does not that stuff look suspicious to you?

I don't knowwhat do you mean? Elaborate please.
Top 2 vote leaders are bad votes and i don't even know why there are votes on them.

Also:
##Vote: GGTeMpLaR

He doesnt try and convince anyone to vote for GGTemp here but just a while ago, he asked us to make a case/convince people on Grack if we wanted to move votes. Actions dont match his words.

and

On March 06 2014 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I kinda wanna lycnh VE for his bad post about boone's claim.
Also ggtemplar so vote stands.

he totally drops this read in favor of lynching GGtemp, never really talks to Grack about lynch VE, the top propnent towards his lynch. Basically it doesnt look like he wants to find scum, just push people who look bad.

Is it as easy as Boone/Rayn? Boone has been hard defending Rayn all game. But the Rayn/Joey interactions didn't feel like 2 mafia fighting and more of a mafia/town interaction

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

March 11 2014 18:53 GMT

#2673

YOU'RE A WIZARD HARI: