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On March 08 2014 00:51 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 00:45 Palmar wrote:
Yeah you need to calm down dude. I almost want to lynch you on policy for raging like that, as it's very easy to fake as mafia (ie, it's not alignment indicative).
But whatever, we're behind, stop responding to dandel and make some smart cases then. FOS you for voting VE, which you admitted today that your terrible reasoning was in fact wrong from the get-go FOS anyone that jumped on your early RL of VE. FOS Dandelion for fabricating a case against me FOS Joey cause he's not playing his town game and he was the other wagon yesterday, so lynching him would be our best play...even our ONLY play. Also, if there's a vigi in this game, they're bad for not shooting Joey
This is exactly the point dandel and rayn made. You are basing everything on the VE lynch being scummy/shitty while yesterday you were saying you would like the lynch to be between VE/Killing.
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On March 08 2014 01:04 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2014 03:08 austinmcc wrote:
I dislike Palmar. I think the way he deals with GGTemplar's unexplained reads, Robik's unexplained semi-reads into explanation, and my questioning of Robik is...inconsistent.
GGTemplar needs to explain himself, sayeth the Palmar.
Robik gives reads but doesn't explain himself.
austinmcc asks Robik to explain a read or two, and give them specifically.
Robik gives an explanation.
Robik's explanation is townie, sayeth the Palmar (agree). But the Palmar forgetteth that Robik initially posts nothing specific, and that I'm the one to question him about it. While he may not like my followup, i would PRESUME that asking people to explain their reads, is, at the very least, a somewhat green thing to do (see Palmar, who would like to look green as either alignment, asking GGTemplar to explain himself).
I do not understand how Palmar reaches his reads on the three of us given Robik's initial post and my question. Page 1 of Austin Filter, Austin didn't like Palmar. Also questioned Boone's motives for outing the QT. Scum points for Palmar Scum points for Boone. HAVING SAID THAT: Palmar and Boone are not Mafia together based off of Palmar's insistence on the fact that Boone should have been lynched for her claim. (In before he'd say that if they were mafia together too)
Well, do you think Palmar is an idiot? Because if he is not then he knew that his policy would not go through.
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On March 08 2014 01:07 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 01:04 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2014 00:51 IAmRobik wrote:On March 08 2014 00:45 Palmar wrote:
Yeah you need to calm down dude. I almost want to lynch you on policy for raging like that, as it's very easy to fake as mafia (ie, it's not alignment indicative).
But whatever, we're behind, stop responding to dandel and make some smart cases then. FOS you for voting VE, which you admitted today that your terrible reasoning was in fact wrong from the get-go FOS anyone that jumped on your early RL of VE. FOS Dandelion for fabricating a case against me FOS Joey cause he's not playing his town game and he was the other wagon yesterday, so lynching him would be our best play...even our ONLY play. Also, if there's a vigi in this game, they're bad for not shooting Joey This is exactly the point dandel and rayn made. You are basing everything on the VE lynch being scummy/shitty while yesterday you were saying you would like the lynch to be between VE/Killing. Cept I didn't choose the side of the confirmed town.....I said I'd like to lynch between VE and Killing because those were the two viable options. Voting on VE was the worse option because Boone was on VE. I'd rather hedge my bets in that spot. Also, I asked Austin to build a case against VE. I did this not to determine VE's alignment, but to determine Austin's. I would have cleared the shit out of him today because of the effort he put into making that VE case (the case was really weak), but alas, he's dead today, so it ended up not being worth it.
You are either really really biased or intentionally one dimensional. We don't know if Killing is scum so we don't know if your choice was in fact the better one.
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On March 08 2014 01:09 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 01:00 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2014 00:53 IAmRobik wrote:On March 08 2014 00:48 Palmar wrote:
And you probably should take a step off from your high horse. If you're losing arguments against people you label "trolls", maybe you're terrible at arguing, and tailoring your arguments to your audience.
If town is a bit dumb, you make the arguments that fit that town, you wouldn't explain shit in the same way to a class of playschool kids as you would to a group of university students. It's YOUR job to get your point through.
While typing googoogaga over and over again for an unnamed few people in this thread would help them understand what i'm saying, I'd rather just have the intelligent people understand me. Well then you know where the problem lies. No need to rage if you don't want to do what's necessary. I get fucking frustrated. He calls me out. Other people hop on that shit. I feel the need to explain myself. During the process of explaining myself I get heated cause he's fucking wrong or scum. I know there is a sentiment that you don't have to explain yourself to scum, but I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S SCUM OR NOT...nor do I know that the people who followed up on his "suspicions" are scum or not...so I get mad and rage and try to yell at how dumb he is for even thinking that it could be true.
Ok, do you think I am scum? Because I am pretty damn sure dandel is town. You should not rule that out.
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On March 08 2014 01:31 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 01:26 Dandel Ion wrote:
Same goes for you, but in contrast to you I'm town and I know I still have to read them anyway.
The only thing you said in response was NO NO NO NO NO BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT and that's literally the extent of it.
I don't know which hole you climbed out of where that counts as super-great logic. But then again, you're just scum that doesn't know how else to "defend" himself. ok cool THE GAUNTLET HAS BEEN THROWN. TODAY IS THE DAY WHERE YOU LYNCH BETWEEN ME AND DANDELION. I HONESTLY DON'T CARE HOW THE VOTING GOES. I'D RATHER HE DIE THAN ME CAUSE I KNOW I'M TOWN, BUT IF I DIE AND DON'T HAVE TO READ ANOTHER ONE OF HIS FUCKING POSTS I'LL BE JUST AS THRILLED. MAKE YOUR DECISION. I tried to avoid this situation all of yesterday, but it has become apparent to me that this is impossible. So let's do it. If dandelion is town, he's effectively ruined the game. ##unvote
##vote dandelion
You don't get to decide that friend.
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On March 08 2014 04:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Rayn
I have a theory that people who use emoticons at the beginning of the game are more likely to be scum. I was wishy washy about it in GSL, but I'm more certain of it now. The reason being is that they need to feign some sort of smile, laughter, joviality.
He is willing to clear Dandelion for the interaction with me and says that Dandelion has been more towny and provided more content when this is definitely a fallacy...at least the latter part should be a fallacy in anyone's eyes that's actually paying attention.
Also, it seems to me that he's willing to clear Dandelion off the meta that people have been clearning Dandelion for, however my game should read the same as how it read in GSL, where he knows I was town, yet he's unwilling to give me any credit for it and I think that's pretty scummy (the fact that he won't even consider giving me town points for it)
Palmar
He voted on a confirmed town late after swapping off of someone that I believe to be mafia. He blatantly admitted that his rationale for voting VE was incorrect today. It seems like he's trying too hard to be like "oh hey, i was wrong and this is why i was wrong." It just seemed like a lackluster justification and did not read genuine to me. Austin (confirmed town) had suspicions of Palmar and Austin is dead. Reading pages 1 and 2 of the austin filter, I can see what Austin was saying with regards to Palmar. Palmar called out Austin for questioning my reads and then backing off of me, saying that I didn't really answer Austin's questions. I think that I _DID_ answer Austin's questions, so it doesn't make sense to me why Palmar kept pressuring Austin the way he did. Potentially trying to push a mislynch? Maybe.
Which reminds me of another thing about Rayn.
Rayn asked me to address some question. I felt that I had answered it and he kept repeating that I hadn't. I think that he's halfheartedly reading the thread and is just missing things and this is scummy behavior.
This guy is either the most stubborn and confrontational scumplayer I have seen to date or town. Dude, you know that you will get in an even worse fight with rayn for this read on him?
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On March 08 2014 02:36 IAmRobik wrote:Oh Joey. Way to fabricate a case on me using meta that is an absolute lie. I always call people fucking idiots when I'm town. I'm pretty sure I almost made csangels cry once for being wrong.
Also, the voting thing...I did snipe you. JAT and me pushed your vote over until Dandelion and Palmar pushed it back. Nice try though.
The amount of people not able to read the voting thread is too damn high.
Let me break it down for you guys:
When Palmar voted joey:
VE (4)
joey (4)
with VE getting lynched
- I vote joey (would be hammer)
- robik votes joey
joey (6)
VE(4)
- Palmar votes VE
joey (5)
VE (5)
with joey getting lynched
- dandel votes VE
-> Lynch.
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On March 08 2014 05:15 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 05:12 justanothertownie wrote:On March 08 2014 04:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Rayn
I have a theory that people who use emoticons at the beginning of the game are more likely to be scum. I was wishy washy about it in GSL, but I'm more certain of it now. The reason being is that they need to feign some sort of smile, laughter, joviality.
He is willing to clear Dandelion for the interaction with me and says that Dandelion has been more towny and provided more content when this is definitely a fallacy...at least the latter part should be a fallacy in anyone's eyes that's actually paying attention.
Also, it seems to me that he's willing to clear Dandelion off the meta that people have been clearning Dandelion for, however my game should read the same as how it read in GSL, where he knows I was town, yet he's unwilling to give me any credit for it and I think that's pretty scummy (the fact that he won't even consider giving me town points for it)
Palmar
He voted on a confirmed town late after swapping off of someone that I believe to be mafia. He blatantly admitted that his rationale for voting VE was incorrect today. It seems like he's trying too hard to be like "oh hey, i was wrong and this is why i was wrong." It just seemed like a lackluster justification and did not read genuine to me. Austin (confirmed town) had suspicions of Palmar and Austin is dead. Reading pages 1 and 2 of the austin filter, I can see what Austin was saying with regards to Palmar. Palmar called out Austin for questioning my reads and then backing off of me, saying that I didn't really answer Austin's questions. I think that I _DID_ answer Austin's questions, so it doesn't make sense to me why Palmar kept pressuring Austin the way he did. Potentially trying to push a mislynch? Maybe.
Which reminds me of another thing about Rayn.
Rayn asked me to address some question. I felt that I had answered it and he kept repeating that I hadn't. I think that he's halfheartedly reading the thread and is just missing things and this is scummy behavior. This guy is either the most stubborn and confrontational scumplayer I have seen to date or town. Dude, you know that you will get in an even worse fight with rayn for this read on him? I'm sorry. I didn't realize I'm not allowed to call out people who I think are actually scummy and have to only focus on people who can't put together 2 congruent words. Like.. I think he's scummy. THat's why I think he's scummy. I'm not gonna sit here and make up reasons why I think someone is scummy. I don't need to fabricate anything cause I'm town, so I tell it how I see it.
Didn't want to criticize you this time. Read carefully.
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On March 08 2014 04:21 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 04:15 boonetown wrote:On March 08 2014 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Why would you even protect a vig target cause i'm an idiot? i protected someone i read as town. that's all. Why would you noob claim again????
Why would YOU claim oats again?
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On March 08 2014 05:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2014 04:49 IAmRobik wrote:
I have a theory that people who use emoticons at the beginning of the game are more likely to be scum.
How come you never brought this up?
OH SHIT
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On March 08 2014 05:29 IAmRobik wrote:
OH SHIT
lol
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Where the hell are grack and slam?
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On March 08 2014 04:10 boonetown wrote:
i'm still not sure Palmar is town, but he's being much more helpful and useful today.
I really have to disagree here. Palmar gave some general advice and lectured robik. What has he done besides that? He has been useless today.
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I also expect more from joey if he wants to live through this day. I don't need walls of text but jumping on the wagon getting steam (robik) is not enough.
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On March 08 2014 11:40 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
how the hell do people read slam
Well, I will fully admit that I can't. At least not by his posts. I caught him once for a terrible vote when he was scum but that's about it.
On March 08 2014 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
ohhhhh I read GGtemp as Grack. Disregard points.
I still think Grack is scum though but now its cause he pushed VE for being disinterested and then pushing a lynch on someone which is contradicatory. You cant be both man wtf.
What push are you talking about?
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On March 08 2014 09:30 boonetown wrote:
Now, that's different. I think in order I would lynch Killing, Dandel, Grack, JAT, OATS and then if the game wasnt over I'd look at Palmar again.
Dandel vs Rob is really weird for me, because at first i thought they were just idiots going at each other, now I think Dandel is purposely trying to upset rob so that people will vote him. I also dont like the point that was made earlier about his switch vote from Killing to VE.
Wow, those reads are pretty terrible and you didn't even give any reasoning for them. What's up with that? In what world am I scum together with Killing?
I am town, pretty sure dandel is town (yes, he probably did purposefully upset robik but that makes him a troll and an asshole maybe but not scum) - your new reads suck.
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On March 08 2014 23:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
The one where VE called out GGTemp for the first post in the QT being all "I know both of you are scum dont talk to me".
Grack said that VE was disinterested(somewhat townie) and pushing an agenda(scummy) and pushed him based on the above reason. But you cant do both man.
That was at the beginning of the game and like the easiest push in the history of mafia.
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On March 08 2014 23:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont know what you are referring to JAT. Do you think Grack is scum?
That is very possible but I don't follow your reasoning for it.
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On March 08 2014 23:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
He called VE scum for bad reasoning and never rethought his push the whole way. That was his only specific evidence for pushing VE.
And its bad.
In hindsight it was because VE flipped town. When it happened I didn't think his push was bad. If Grack is scum then that's because he didn't do shit apart from that and nothing so far on day2 as far as I am concerned.
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On March 07 2014 08:07 Palmar wrote:
I'm terrible at this game.
Gonna re-read tomorrow.
On March 07 2014 08:09 Palmar wrote:
Someone else should really take the lead and it should not be rayn I think. There's just something about this town between lurking/trolling/people I don't know I can't figure out.
So yeah, I'll comment on as many ideas as I can today, please start presenting cases and short reasons and I'll try my best to read those and give input.
On March 07 2014 08:15 Palmar wrote:
Anyway, as I'll offer input on as much as I can tomorrow.
I am still waiting for this
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EPT
this Palmar!
