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On February 28 2014 07:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 07:49 Vivax wrote:
Anyway, to your "logic" argument. How does rehashing make a case's arguments less valid? huh? if somethings been said before and their only contribution is to make a long winded case on a guy based on points already said that's an easy way to fit in to the game and blend, + everything else i already said, i'm playing reactively now because i'm happy with this lynch choice so i need to dissaude people from changing their minds last secon like silly people, i've been proactive most of this game
I posted my shit on gumshoe regardless of other people having said similar things, and I'm not scum. I simply read his post and posted my thoughts without giving a shit if he had been discussed already, so how is that strictly a scum mindset?
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On February 28 2014 07:58 geript wrote:One I think Mocs town. I've completely forgotten why exactly now but I didn't really like any of your points. Plus like toad is way scummier.
Phonepost
Ill tell you what: I think this may warrant another look for next lynch, but your playstyle is completelyy turrning me and everyone else off from listening to you. Can you be a prodcutive member of town and help us out with this lynch?
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Sloppy play maybe, but not necessarily scummy mindset.
What's also scummy about HF is the way he's so certain about the lynch when he brought up scummy points about Moc earlier.
When I got two scumreads and naturally can't be 100 % certain which one is more likely to be correct I'd at least try to get to a conclusion after weighing in the arguments on both reads, and not vote one of the two and call it a day, which is the scum way of doing things when the sails are set for a mislynch.
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Ok I'm back. Read some from school but gonna have to skim the last 8 pages or so.
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Phonepost
Anyone who knows suki
How does she normally react when under pressure?Has she been mislycnhed? what was the scenario
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I'm curious how this Cavalinho dude will justify his uber late vote, if he even will.
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Votecount
Mocsta (3) - suki, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Toadesstern, Toadesstern, JarJarDrinks
geript (1) - Toadesstern, TheChyz, Toadesstern
TheChyz (1) - raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks, Cavalinho, suki, suki
Toadesstern (1) - Geript, Geript
JarJarDrinks (0) - Geript, Gumshoe
gumshoe (0) - WaveofShadow, Mocsta, JarJarDrinks
WaveofShadow (0) - raynpelikoneet, Vivax
suki (5) - WaveofShadow, Gumshoe, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, raynpelikoneet, Gumshoe, WaveofShadow, Ange777
Vivax (1) - WaveofShadow, raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, suki
Not Voting - Cavalinho
Suki is currently set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in .
If any votes are missing or incorrect please let us know!
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On February 28 2014 08:17 Vivax wrote:
I'm curious how this Cavalinho dude will justify his uber late vote, if he even will.
What's that supposed to mean?
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Sounds like it means exactly what he said.
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Ok so I'm still mostly on the geript track. Nothing he has said has really swayed me away from wanting to lynch him. Nobody has defended him in any way other than saying since he is trying to hard to be so tunnely and not listen to others and his emotion (which can easily be faked) to be him being town. However my argument from before still holds. And even if he is town I think it would be maybe the best mislynch possible since we all know he wont ever change his mind (somebody also quoted him from an irc chat they had with him i believe) and help town unless it goes the way he wants it. He is a parasite to the town, no mater the alignment which is why I think he is still the best lynch target.
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On February 28 2014 08:24 TheChyz wrote:
Ok so I'm still mostly on the geript track. Nothing he has said has really swayed me away from wanting to lynch him. Nobody has defended him in any way other than saying since he is trying to hard to be so tunnely and not listen to others and his emotion (which can easily be faked) to be him being town. However my argument from before still holds. And even if he is town I think it would be maybe the best mislynch possible since we all know he wont ever change his mind (somebody also quoted him from an irc chat they had with him i believe) and help town unless it goes the way he wants it. He is a parasite to the town, no mater the alignment which is why I think he is still the best lynch target.
What makes you different from geript since you've been on him since that failed JJD case without trying to influence the other lynches, which is a prerequisite for getting geript lynched?
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Fair enough.
I'm still not entirely sure why rayn and HolyFlare think suki is scummy. The only reason I'm this indecisive is that if my strongest townreads are jumping to take her out, then there might be something to it. I don't see it, and the only people I really want to vote for have almost no votes on them. I think JJD's filter shows that he's trying to contribute, but he's only arguing around in a circle with everyone else.
I think I'm going to have to trust my townreads on this one. ##Vote suki
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Mostly just everything in his filter giving off this attitude that its his way or the highway. I'm not opposed to other people being lynched, however I think that he is the best lynch atm so why should I back off. Also his case is terrible and he has stuck to his case which was from something that happened in the first few posts of the game. I'm pretty sure nobody disagrees with me that geript has not been helpful to town.
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Yeah well I'll give you the newbie benefit cause lynching people you don't find helpful is something you would like to do when you're new to the game.
However I don't like that you say you don't mind other people being lynched, since I would expect that you want the person lynched that you DO want to get lynched, and not anybody else you didn't really take a closer look at.
Or did you take a closer look at suki and Moc?
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On February 28 2014 08:06 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 07:58 geript wrote:On February 28 2014 07:52 Vivax wrote:
Can you tell me what your problem is? One I think Mocs town. I've completely forgotten why exactly now but I didn't really like any of your points. Plus like toad is way scummier. Phonepost Ill tell you what: I think this may warrant another look for next lynch, but your playstyle is completelyy turrning me and everyone else off from listening to you. Can you be a prodcutive member of town and help us out with this lynch?
Look I don't care. Like nobody's paid any serious attention to the toad read. I had read each and every of you and Ryan's thoughts. Hell, I've even looked at most of HF's stuff despite being wholly unable to read him. Like I'm tired of it. Toad is so fraking scummy beyond measure and you and Rayn and half everyone else have given him super mysterious town reads. Like I've at least bothered to give reasons for my reads on people and I'm not going to bother thinking about anyone else's reads until they start taking mine seriously. It's not going to happen any other way.
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On February 28 2014 08:03 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 07:58 Holyflare wrote:On February 28 2014 07:49 Vivax wrote:
Anyway, to your "logic" argument. How does rehashing make a case's arguments less valid? huh? if somethings been said before and their only contribution is to make a long winded case on a guy based on points already said that's an easy way to fit in to the game and blend, + everything else i already said, i'm playing reactively now because i'm happy with this lynch choice so i need to dissaude people from changing their minds last secon like silly people, i've been proactive most of this game I posted my shit on gumshoe regardless of other people having said similar things, and I'm not scum. I simply read his post and posted my thoughts without giving a shit if he had been discussed already, so how is that strictly a scum mindset?
and your stuff on gumshoe was original content that nobody had brought up and you had read the thread, she comes back either didn't read the thread and posted which is bad because then she just chose a target and random and picked a post or read the thread and sheeped and said nothing new to then turn around and say he was town based on his defence which was non existant
What's also scummy about HF is the way he's so certain about the lynch when he brought up scummy points about Moc earlier.
When I got two scumreads and naturally can't be 100 % certain which one is more likely to be correct I'd at least try to get to a conclusion after weighing in the arguments on both reads, and not vote one of the two and call it a day, which is the scum way of doing things when the sails are set for a mislynch.
Suki just displays things that are inherently scummy and mocsta's scummyness was based on contradictions and things that could be from town or scum, I'm more sure on suki because i've rolled scum so many times (I've won the belt for christ sake) that i know inherent things to look out for in thought processes, the only reason i'm sitting back is because i'm confident for the cycle
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On February 28 2014 08:27 Cavalinho wrote:
Fair enough.
I'm still not entirely sure why rayn and HolyFlare think suki is scummy. The only reason I'm this indecisive is that if my strongest townreads are jumping to take her out, then there might be something to it. I don't see it, and the only people I really want to vote for have almost no votes on them. I think JJD's filter shows that he's trying to contribute, but he's only arguing around in a circle with everyone else.
I think I'm going to have to trust my townreads on this one. ##Vote suki
Rayn went derp mode for reasons I can't understand. The mocsta confirmed town thingy makes no sense to me the way he explained it cause I don't expect the hosts to do a favour to individual players. So yeah, his suki vote is a riddle, and he basically stopped playing the game outside of that.
HF thinks suki is scummy for the bad town atmosphere thingy and cause he thinks that saying things others said previously as if they were your own is scummy and not just copyright infringement cause you don't care who a point belongs to if it's a good point.
Furthermore HF found Mocsta scummy himself for reasons similar to the ones suki mentioned (unexplainable read jumps in his incredibly helpful lists /sarcasm) but completely quit pursuing him afterwards and disregards what suki said about mocsta just cause he says she was rehashing that.
On the other hand I already mentioned at some point that both of Moc's and suki's reads on each other changed in weird ways after their initial aggression so there's the conspiracy theory that they are in fact both scum.
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On February 28 2014 08:40 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 08:27 Cavalinho wrote:
Fair enough.
I'm still not entirely sure why rayn and HolyFlare think suki is scummy. The only reason I'm this indecisive is that if my strongest townreads are jumping to take her out, then there might be something to it. I don't see it, and the only people I really want to vote for have almost no votes on them. I think JJD's filter shows that he's trying to contribute, but he's only arguing around in a circle with everyone else.
I think I'm going to have to trust my townreads on this one. ##Vote suki Rayn went derp mode for reasons I can't understand. The mocsta confirmed town thingy makes no sense to me the way he explained it cause I don't expect the hosts to do a favour to individual players. So yeah, his suki vote is a riddle, and he basically stopped playing the game outside of that. HF thinks suki is scummy for the bad town atmosphere thingy and cause he thinks that saying things others said previously as if they were your own is scummy and not just copyright infringement cause you don't care who a point belongs to if it's a good point. Furthermore HF found Mocsta scummy himself for reasons similar to the ones suki mentioned (unexplainable read jumps in his incredibly helpful lists /sarcasm) but completely quit pursuing him afterwards and disregards what suki said about mocsta just cause he says she was rehashing that. On the other hand I already mentioned at some point that both of Moc's and suki's reads on each other changed in weird ways after their initial aggression so there's the conspiracy theory that they are in fact both scum.
I said town atmosphere was bad as well. Nobody wants to jump on me for that?
Although Mocsta is pretty scummy, nothing he did early game made any sense and I was totally set to lynch him. I just find this suki bandwagon particularly odd.
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my suki read isn't entirely all her mocsta post at all i have no idea why you are reading it like that
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Ok what the hell guys, why is there suddenly a bandwagon on me?
I said Id be gone for the day and now somehow there's a train on me? Someone tell me what the reason I'm top scum today is so I can stop this cuz this is retarded as hell.
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