Cultured Mini Mafia - Page 8

On February 27 2014 01:10 suki wrote:
Case on TheChyz

TheChyz comes in with a town read on Mocsta out of the blue saying 'it's the way you're playing'. He dodges my request for him to share his reads by saying 'I have some hunches', without elaborating.

He starts pressuring Mocsta. Makes a bad case on JJD that he quickly gets off of.

Says this:


Then votes geript with a pretty awful case.

This case is really bad. Not only does he not explain how geript is scummy for any of his 'points', it seems like a big part of his case is 'I dont understand whats going on'. His entire case is based on geript's comment that rayn and toad cannot be scum together... Like, that's just weak.


This conclusion just feels out of place. Like he's trying to explain why he didn't think geript was scummy before but now he does. "Making a story", as it were.

TheChyz also seems to be pressuring Mocsta, but I have no idea what TheChyz's opinion of Mocsta is. At the beginning of the game he read Mocsta as town, now he seems to be neutral?



This is also really flaky. He's saying I look scummy but isn't trying to figure out what looks scummy. He thinks mocsta is suspicious but isn't making a decision. He made a weak case on geript off of one of geript's posts but doesn't seem to be commenting on other things that geript has done.

Other people's cases on TheChyz

In general I agree with other people's cases on TheChyz.

I like JJD's case:


I don't think Mocsta's case is that good.


I don't think TheChyz's question on me indicated that he didn't share Mocsta's read (that I was suspicious).

I don't agree with:

TheChyz hasn't indicated what he thinks of Rayn or Toad's alignment which is weird but not scummy. His case on geript was independent of his read on rayn/toad.



I can understand the point that it is trying to dodge giving insight while commenting on gumshoe. I can see it as a townie 'haha i found it funny'. I can see it as a scummy 'lets talk about things but not really'. I see that Mocsta has pinned it as scummy behaviour.


I find it funny that Mocsta's summary points 1 and 2 can be used to describe his play this game. I don't see how, on its own, Mocsta's points establish that TheChyz's play has been scum motivated.

Other people have posted cases but I'm out of time this morning

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SUMMARY

I think the word to describe TheChyz's play is "weak". There are plenty of contradictions in his words and actions. He seems to have no inclination to scum hunt, but every inclination to throw suspicion on people. I'm leaning towards scummy on him.

Scummy things:
1. random defense of mocsta out of nowhere
2. not being transparent with reads, not straight up saying 'this person is scummy' (except geript but that case sucks)
3. not pushing his scum reads.
4. Seemingly not interested in finding scum.

I know rayn and some other people brought up cases against TheChyz, and when I read through them in my catch-up I generally agreed with them. There are some points that were brought up that are not in this case that do make TheChyz look scummy.

Mocsta being so adamant on TheChyz makes me doubt that both of them are scum together. TheChyz recently has spent effort talking with Mocsta, which, given his weak play, I find unlikely to happen if they were scumbuddies. Also no reason for a hard bus at this point.

mmm... I'll have to think about this one. There's still half a day left so plenty of time for both players to contribute.