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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
February 27 2014 21:10 GMT
#1521
Hey WoS how is it to know that your whole case on me is horseshit now?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
February 27 2014 21:11 GMT
#1522
Also we lynch Mocsta.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2014 21:11 GMT
#1523
On February 28 2014 06:05 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 05:46 gumshoe wrote:
Also as scum it's your job to spot trends and run ahead of them, of course you would choose to flip flop on Suki before she becomes public enemy number one.

And again you're misrepresenting things. You're making it look like all of a sudden suki became a top scumread of mine. All I said was I was starting to suspect she was your scumbuddy. It's like I'm pushing for her to be lynched.


You dont have many reads Jar, so when you back up on one and call it scummy, I take it as a top scum pick. You feeling the need to give any quarter on Suki whatsoever and present a silly bus case to make me somehow look bad after she flips red is what looks scummy to me here, I dont feel like I'm misrepresenting anything at all. But whateves, you can run free for a bit, I'll just come back to you after Suki ( :
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 27 2014 21:11 GMT
#1524
On February 28 2014 06:06 Vivax wrote:
Yeah I feel threatened and people are either dumb or scum.

Well considering the way the votes are going right now, I'm actually inclined to agree.

Vivax if you are playing the game (and town), why has almost the entirety of today been solely dedicated to jumping into other people's conversations and asking questions? This looks to me like you are trying to LOOK like you're playing and herding people in no particular direction, thus keeping the pro-scum atmosphere (though I admit this could be a confirmation bias read). Now that I'm back to start pushing, a fakeclaim could be exactly what you need to keep it up.

I want to know where other people weigh in on this blueclaim.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
February 27 2014 21:12 GMT
#1525
I want to know why you swallow the claim so easily since I've been your top scumread.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 27 2014 21:12 GMT
#1526
On February 28 2014 06:10 Vivax wrote:
Hey WoS how is it to know that your whole case on me is horseshit now?

I don't necessarily believe it is.
The word blue is just a word, Vivax. I see no colours.
You may be forcing me not to lynch you now, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be giving you any control.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 27 2014 21:14 GMT
#1527
On February 28 2014 06:10 Vivax wrote:
Hey WoS how is it to know that your whole case on me is horseshit now?

On February 28 2014 06:12 Vivax wrote:
I want to know why you swallow the claim so easily since I've been your top scumread.

LOL.
Really Vivax?
You claim and tell me my case is horseshit and as such assume I'm going to move off, and when I insinuate that I might you call me out for it?

Good lord. Everything you do continues to fit the scumbill.

FOr the record, I don't want to be the guy who lynches the medic. I don't think anyone does, so I'm forced to re-evaluate and see if there's reason for you to be telling the truth. Is that scummy, Vivax?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 21:14 GMT
#1528
On February 28 2014 06:11 gumshoe wrote:
You dont have many reads Jar, so when you back up on one and call it scummy
I don't have many reads? Well I guess you think I'm town then:
On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
I know Jar Jar to be a tunneller as town, he sticks to his reads, but this game hes bounced everywhere and several influential players have given him a pass on it. He starts fires where ever he can and hopes they catch. When they dont, he moves on until something sticks, but hes always willing to backtrack. In bluez light mafia, he bounced back between Oats , TOFU, TAA gemorpit, Vivax, jkirby, Corazon, tangeng, in efforts to get any one of them lynched, and I'm seeing the makings of that same capriciousness in this game.
I thought I was scummy because I had too many reads?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 27 2014 21:15 GMT
#1529
well if geript isn't happening Mocsta is still flashing red as well, so

##unvote
##vote Mocsta
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2014 21:16 GMT
#1530
On February 28 2014 06:12 Vivax wrote:
I want to know why you swallow the claim so easily since I've been your top scumread.


Well I bloody dont, you saying I'm blue means nothing, it's like saying I'm town. In fact by bringing it up so vaugely, you force others potential blues to step in to fight you. Whats more scum might not even shoot you tonight, they could just leave you alone and hope we mislynch you cause you dont die. This claim says absolutely nothing about your alignment, because you either die or get "role blocked' here on out.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 27 2014 21:17 GMT
#1531
On February 28 2014 05:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 05:49 Ange777 wrote:
On February 27 2014 12:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In GSL BH actually did promise Mocsta to roll him town and didn't (because what's the point of hydraing if you are scum?!?).
So either Mocsta has requested the same thing again and didnt' get it or he is modconfirming himself as town in which case he should be modkilled.

Page 58. Why would Mocsta be modconfirmed town based on that comment??

He's not.

Alright I've got the next hour or so.
People pushing solo-vote lynches right now need to ask yourselves: have you gained any traction with your case?
Are you truly going to gain any in the next few hours?

Right now what we have is the perfect scum deadline atmosphere. There is no clear town leader (and as confident as I've been this game I don't tend to fill that position particularly often) and votes are spread out so thinly scum can essentially move wherever they want and lynch whoever they want today. On top of that, we will learn absolutely nothing on flip (ie voting analysis will be basically useless) aside from that person's alignment if everyone stays on the current path. Is that what town wants?

We need to figure out 2-3 MOST LIKELY lynch candidates.
Preferably before I leave.

As it stands off the top of my head I want to say Mocsta/suki/Vivax.

You all need to decide where these three fit into your current reads and decide what you want out of the day, and whether you want to hand this lynch to scum or not, as geript seems rife to do.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm pretty damn sure geript is town but considering how horrible his play has been recently I can honestly say I wouldn't mind a policy, but only as last resort. TL needs to be punishing this shit way more often than it does.

Confirmation AND bad association inc.
WARNING

The bolded is perfect motivation for you to fakeclaim if Moc/suki are both town. Hell, even if only one of them is considering nobody knows where the lynch goes yet today. Hell I don't think there's much downside to you fakeclaiming anyway.
Like if it's real why the fuck would you claim so early? ESPECIALLY since I said I'd only be aorund for what now...another 30 min, and other lynches can continue to be pushed in my absence?

LET'S GO PEOPLE, I WANT INPUT ON VIVAX>
PRONTO

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
February 27 2014 21:18 GMT
#1532
FOr the record, I don't want to be the guy who lynches the medic. I don't think anyone does, so I'm forced to re-evaluate and see if there's reason for you to be telling the truth. Is that scummy, Vivax?


If you put it like that, no.
I have a particular aversion towards you in this game for the way you approached me when I declined to give my read on Chyz and how you treated your semi-scumread on gumshoe, then cranking out a textbook case without having the volition to consider other options.

Is that scummy to think you're scum under those circumstances? After all you've been one of the few, if not the only one to interpret me withholding the Chyz opinion as scummy.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2014 21:19 GMT
#1533
On February 28 2014 06:14 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 06:11 gumshoe wrote:
You dont have many reads Jar, so when you back up on one and call it scummy
I don't have many reads? Well I guess you think I'm town then:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
I know Jar Jar to be a tunneller as town, he sticks to his reads, but this game hes bounced everywhere and several influential players have given him a pass on it. He starts fires where ever he can and hopes they catch. When they dont, he moves on until something sticks, but hes always willing to backtrack. In bluez light mafia, he bounced back between Oats , TOFU, TAA gemorpit, Vivax, jkirby, Corazon, tangeng, in efforts to get any one of them lynched, and I'm seeing the makings of that same capriciousness in this game.
I thought I was scummy because I had too many reads?


LOL pick poke pick poke, the problem is not how many reads you have, but how much you flip flop on them, also give it time, I'm sure you'll branch out the more desperate you get. Why are you still fighting me? Niether of us are getting lynched. Move on.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
February 27 2014 21:19 GMT
#1534
Not caught up completely yet but I wanted to actually talk with you guys instead of continuing to post stuff no one comments on anyway ...

Right now it's between suki, Vivax and Mocsta and Vivax just claimed blue right?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
February 27 2014 21:20 GMT
#1535
EBWOP: Or is there another serious contender for the lynch?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
February 27 2014 21:20 GMT
#1536
On February 28 2014 06:20 Ange777 wrote:
EBWOP: Or is there another serious contender for the lynch?


geript I would say
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2014 21:21 GMT
#1537
On February 28 2014 06:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 05:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 28 2014 05:49 Ange777 wrote:
On February 27 2014 12:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In GSL BH actually did promise Mocsta to roll him town and didn't (because what's the point of hydraing if you are scum?!?).
So either Mocsta has requested the same thing again and didnt' get it or he is modconfirming himself as town in which case he should be modkilled.

Page 58. Why would Mocsta be modconfirmed town based on that comment??

He's not.

Alright I've got the next hour or so.
People pushing solo-vote lynches right now need to ask yourselves: have you gained any traction with your case?
Are you truly going to gain any in the next few hours?

Right now what we have is the perfect scum deadline atmosphere. There is no clear town leader (and as confident as I've been this game I don't tend to fill that position particularly often) and votes are spread out so thinly scum can essentially move wherever they want and lynch whoever they want today. On top of that, we will learn absolutely nothing on flip (ie voting analysis will be basically useless) aside from that person's alignment if everyone stays on the current path. Is that what town wants?

We need to figure out 2-3 MOST LIKELY lynch candidates.
Preferably before I leave.

As it stands off the top of my head I want to say Mocsta/suki/Vivax.

You all need to decide where these three fit into your current reads and decide what you want out of the day, and whether you want to hand this lynch to scum or not, as geript seems rife to do.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm pretty damn sure geript is town but considering how horrible his play has been recently I can honestly say I wouldn't mind a policy, but only as last resort. TL needs to be punishing this shit way more often than it does.

Confirmation AND bad association inc.
WARNING

The bolded is perfect motivation for you to fakeclaim if Moc/suki are both town. Hell, even if only one of them is considering nobody knows where the lynch goes yet today. Hell I don't think there's much downside to you fakeclaiming anyway.
Like if it's real why the fuck would you claim so early? ESPECIALLY since I said I'd only be aorund for what now...another 30 min, and other lynches can continue to be pushed in my absence?

LET'S GO PEOPLE, I WANT INPUT ON VIVAX>
PRONTO



His claim means nothing here on out, mafia just role block him if hes actually blue, and well do the rest for them. All the old cases still stand.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
February 27 2014 21:22 GMT
#1538
Can someone link me to the case on geript? Or tell me by whom was it?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 27 2014 21:22 GMT
#1539
On February 28 2014 06:10 Vivax wrote:
Hey WoS how is it to know that your whole case on me is horseshit now?

On February 28 2014 06:12 Vivax wrote:
I want to know why you swallow the claim so easily since I've been your top scumread.


Like...this is bad.
SO BAD.
On February 28 2014 06:18 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
FOr the record, I don't want to be the guy who lynches the medic. I don't think anyone does, so I'm forced to re-evaluate and see if there's reason for you to be telling the truth. Is that scummy, Vivax?


If you put it like that, no.
I have a particular aversion towards you in this game for the way you approached me when I declined to give my read on Chyz and how you treated your semi-scumread on gumshoe, then cranking out a textbook case without having the volition to consider other options.

Is that scummy to think you're scum under those circumstances? After all you've been one of the few, if not the only one to interpret me withholding the Chyz opinion as scummy.


So you're admitting to bias against me then? Because that's about the only way those two posts you made could possibly be reconciled. You either want me to move off of you or you don't VIvax.


Gumshoe and JJD, shut up and comment on something relevant, otherwise let it be noted what you found to be important around deadline. I appreciate the voteswitch gumshoe but again, I want input.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 21:23 GMT
#1540
On February 28 2014 06:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
LET'S GO PEOPLE, I WANT INPUT ON VIVAX>
Well I didn't think he was scum before the claim so not much to add about my own read. I will say that I don't get how anyone that thought he was scum before would drop their read simply because he claimed blue.
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