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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 18:58 GMT
#1441
On February 28 2014 03:38 gumshoe wrote:
You are my number one scum read, I see no reason to discuss anything with you.
Yet you had no problem going back and forth discussing things w/ me yesterday. Is the reason you refuse to discuss this in particular because you've been completely caught in a lie?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 27 2014 18:58 GMT
#1442
On February 28 2014 03:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 03:55 geript wrote:
On February 28 2014 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
On February 28 2014 03:50 geript wrote:
On February 28 2014 03:46 Holyflare wrote:
why you ignore my shit geript

Like how can you not even consider Toad when he gave such a non-read townread on suki based on nothing, has said nothing about her whatsoever, continues to do complete bullshazazzle with his reads. Like I don't get it, that type of shazazzle can't come from town. The only way I'm willing to move to Suki today is if you're willing to lynch Toad tomorrow.


because i consider you more fucking scummy for doing all this shit, saying you were ignoring everything i said, every point on toad you made is something i had already brought up, ignoring people that other people think are scummy because you cba to read into them and point out things and when you finally conform to rayn and do read vivax's filter you start to point out things and are like "hmmm... maybe"

we get what you have said about toad, people aren't listening, find other people to talk about?

No. I'm tired of people not listening to my reads. You want to lynch me for it. Go ahead. DGAF. I'm putting my vote on scum and if you don't like it then get over it. I'll give you the same offer I gave Rayn. You want to lynch Suki; fine. I can roll with that because it's an alright secondary choice despite being a newb. But I'm not going to vote with you unless you agree to vote with me on Toad tomorrow. That's non-negotiable.


nobody listens to you because you play like an asshole

Pot meet kettle
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 27 2014 18:59 GMT
#1443
On February 28 2014 03:57 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 28 2014 03:53 geript wrote:
On February 28 2014 03:48 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 28 2014 03:45 geript wrote:
On February 28 2014 02:04 Toadesstern wrote:
okay I'm back and I see another pile of bullshit from geript. That guy is getting lynched today.
At some point it's just enough.

##unvote
##vote Geript

On February 28 2014 03:02 Toadesstern wrote:
I have actually no idea what case Cavalinho is referring to... it's "toad said his case ...." so he could be referring to a case on you from someone else I commented on which didn't happen until just recently...
Or he could be mistaken and it's about a case I made on someone else?

But yeah I had you as town in my sheet. After reading WoS case and checking some of those posts he mentioned in context (like the one I just quoted recently) you're down to neutral for me, which is the reason I ended up concluding I'd rather lynch Mocsta or geript which are both flashing red for me.

Holy still comes as 3rd, followed by now gumshoe and you as 4th and 5th from the bottom given that Ange looks pretty decent right now.

Funny how Toad backs off on his read on Cavalinho. It's like he never had any read on him in the first place. Like there's 0 reason in his filter for ever having a read on him and there's no reason for him ever having him town now. Well played scum.

exactly. My read on him isn't strong, like I mentioned. I only mentioned him once, maybe twice because my read isn't strong.

What exactly are you accusing me off? That I don't have a strong read on every single player in the game and end up saying my read ong Cav isn't strong?
Gosh thanks for calling me town I guess.

Has the first quote anything to do with the thing or is it just to highlight the omgus?

No, you've FUCKING NEVER HAD A READ ON HIM YOU FUCKING LIAR!!!!!!! You posted a list of who's town, that's not a read. That doesn't come close to resembling a read. It's the exact same shit that you pulled with Suki and Vivax. Both of which you're happy to retract based on thread sentiment. NO YOU'RE SCUM AND I WISH MARV WERE HERE TO HELP ME LYNCH YOUR LYING ASS!!!! The fact that no one can find it possible or realistic or whatever just makes them fucking awful because their reads on your are based on nothing.


On February 27 2014 08:19 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 27 2014 08:18 Cavalinho wrote:
On February 27 2014 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cavalinho why are your posts so short and lack content unlike the last game?


Because I died immediately last game.

I'm going to try being much more measured instead of just posting shit and seeing what happens.

I like this guy


Third time I caught you lying.

LYNCH IT

lol. That's not a read. That's not even close to a read. If you are town and think that's a read then you need to stop ever playing mafia because that would make you the dumbest person in history. Like a walrus, dolphin or orangutan could make a better mafia read.

you can't possible expect me to flash out a case on every single guy in the game on d1.

You're calling me mafia because I haven't explained EVERY SINGLE READ I HAVE and instead opted to explain the important ones...

LYNCH IT
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Cavalinho
Profile Joined February 2014
United States946 Posts
February 27 2014 19:00 GMT
#1444
On February 28 2014 03:18 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax i'm reading your filter and looking at everything you've posted about mocsta, it all leads to "he's playing passive" with no real push and therefore you've classified him as scum, I see no real push yourself on mocsta, no real basis for pushing this read over everyone else in the game that has been pushed. You've questioned him sure but no proper conclusions were drawn, no attempt to rationalise whether what he was doing was coming from a towny standpoint or a scummy one.

Gumshoe took a stance that mocsta's play was town mocsta, whereas you took the stance to mean that it's scum mocsta but then you criticise gumshoe for coming to a conclusion on his play like you have also done. Even now, the town atmosphere seems to be on top of you and you're directing people mocsta's way and getting THEM to explain it rather than saving yourself by pointing out exactly what makes him scum. Even now you're trying to make me elaborate on things that i've already elaborated on.




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Also, I don't think I'm going to be voting you today. Aside from all the nitpicking, nobody really seems to be going out of their way to defend you and it seems like you're way to easy to lynch if someone decided to push really hard.


caval, vivax only has 3 votes on him with 6 hours left in the day, in no way is that indicative of a lynch on a towny and the lack of defence on him is not indicative either, look specifically at his play rather than what other people are doing because i have seen people defend him earlier on in the thread and when people that look towny rayn/wos/me start posting our intentions on possible vivax lynches then that is where you look for people that sheep after we state our stances


Maybe, maybe not. My point is that all the information going around right now seems entirely reactive and nothing is hashed out yet, and it's really starting to bother me.

Let me give you an example.

Earlier, suki asked me to vote who I think was suspect. Now, after thinking it over, I thought that she would have said something like that for one of two reasons:

A) Suki wants to see how I'm playing this game, as she was one of the observers of my last one and noticed that I learned a lot about that game.
B) Suki had three votes on her and made a case on someone I already thought was scummy, and she was appealing to get my vote to potentially save herself. A quick filter dive (as my filter is not very long) reveals that Chyz is my strongest scumread. Convenient.

This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Does this make suki scummy? Maybe, maybe not. Personally, I think the simplest answer is the best (A) and suki is probably town, but you see what I'm getting at. All the information going around right now seems entirely reactive, and it feels a lot like my other game, where people just go around and point fingers at each other and absolutely nothing gets done.

For the record, looking through Vivax's filter makes me think he's town. Despite the fact that he had a bunch of votes on him earlier, he still found time to scumhunt. I'm not voting him today. If anything, I'm probably going to look more closely at WoS and gumshoe.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
February 27 2014 19:00 GMT
#1445
On February 28 2014 03:53 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 03:48 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 28 2014 03:45 geript wrote:
On February 28 2014 02:04 Toadesstern wrote:
okay I'm back and I see another pile of bullshit from geript. That guy is getting lynched today.
At some point it's just enough.

##unvote
##vote Geript

On February 28 2014 03:02 Toadesstern wrote:
I have actually no idea what case Cavalinho is referring to... it's "toad said his case ...." so he could be referring to a case on you from someone else I commented on which didn't happen until just recently...
Or he could be mistaken and it's about a case I made on someone else?

But yeah I had you as town in my sheet. After reading WoS case and checking some of those posts he mentioned in context (like the one I just quoted recently) you're down to neutral for me, which is the reason I ended up concluding I'd rather lynch Mocsta or geript which are both flashing red for me.

Holy still comes as 3rd, followed by now gumshoe and you as 4th and 5th from the bottom given that Ange looks pretty decent right now.

Funny how Toad backs off on his read on Cavalinho. It's like he never had any read on him in the first place. Like there's 0 reason in his filter for ever having a read on him and there's no reason for him ever having him town now. Well played scum.

exactly. My read on him isn't strong, like I mentioned. I only mentioned him once, maybe twice because my read isn't strong.

What exactly are you accusing me off? That I don't have a strong read on every single player in the game and end up saying my read ong Cav isn't strong?
Gosh thanks for calling me town I guess.

Has the first quote anything to do with the thing or is it just to highlight the omgus?

No, you've FUCKING NEVER HAD A READ ON HIM YOU FUCKING LIAR!!!!!!! You posted a list of who's town, that's not a read. That doesn't come close to resembling a read. It's the exact same shit that you pulled with Suki and Vivax. Both of which you're happy to retract based on thread sentiment. NO YOU'RE SCUM AND I WISH MARV WERE HERE TO HELP ME LYNCH YOUR LYING ASS!!!! The fact that no one can find it possible or realistic or whatever just makes them fucking awful because their reads on your are based on nothing.


I just can't believe that this post could come from scum, get the fuck off of geript.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 27 2014 19:04 GMT
#1446
On February 28 2014 04:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 03:53 geript wrote:
On February 28 2014 03:48 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 28 2014 03:45 geript wrote:
On February 28 2014 02:04 Toadesstern wrote:
okay I'm back and I see another pile of bullshit from geript. That guy is getting lynched today.
At some point it's just enough.

##unvote
##vote Geript

On February 28 2014 03:02 Toadesstern wrote:
I have actually no idea what case Cavalinho is referring to... it's "toad said his case ...." so he could be referring to a case on you from someone else I commented on which didn't happen until just recently...
Or he could be mistaken and it's about a case I made on someone else?

But yeah I had you as town in my sheet. After reading WoS case and checking some of those posts he mentioned in context (like the one I just quoted recently) you're down to neutral for me, which is the reason I ended up concluding I'd rather lynch Mocsta or geript which are both flashing red for me.

Holy still comes as 3rd, followed by now gumshoe and you as 4th and 5th from the bottom given that Ange looks pretty decent right now.

Funny how Toad backs off on his read on Cavalinho. It's like he never had any read on him in the first place. Like there's 0 reason in his filter for ever having a read on him and there's no reason for him ever having him town now. Well played scum.

exactly. My read on him isn't strong, like I mentioned. I only mentioned him once, maybe twice because my read isn't strong.

What exactly are you accusing me off? That I don't have a strong read on every single player in the game and end up saying my read ong Cav isn't strong?
Gosh thanks for calling me town I guess.

Has the first quote anything to do with the thing or is it just to highlight the omgus?

No, you've FUCKING NEVER HAD A READ ON HIM YOU FUCKING LIAR!!!!!!! You posted a list of who's town, that's not a read. That doesn't come close to resembling a read. It's the exact same shit that you pulled with Suki and Vivax. Both of which you're happy to retract based on thread sentiment. NO YOU'RE SCUM AND I WISH MARV WERE HERE TO HELP ME LYNCH YOUR LYING ASS!!!! The fact that no one can find it possible or realistic or whatever just makes them fucking awful because their reads on your are based on nothing.


I just can't believe that this post could come from scum, get the fuck off of geript.


On February 27 2014 05:37 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 05:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fucking shit geript has to be town.
but please please don't be like thins geript. okay?

dude don't let take too stupid to be town as a towntell...

He's been omgus'ing me the entire day
When he saw that's not working he started spouting lies
And now that that's not working, you both got in the thread and told him to shut up he realized that's not working either and he's going for that...

It's like a tour around the block to see what works...


He's lying the entire game. Nothing he said's reasonable as has already been stated by EVERY SINGLE GUY IN THE GAME. There's literally not a single soul in here that things geript makes sense and he's been through all these "stages" of defending himself.

You're calling him too bad to be mafia.
I don't take that as an excuse after seeing that he did all the other shit as an attempt to try to "defend" himself.

He hasn't even tried. He could have just done anything else, he could have come back and gone for someone else like he was clearly told to do. He ignored it and is still tunneling for bullshit reasons not because he's bad but because he has no other options. He's all-in because he's mafia
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 19:04 GMT
#1447
On February 28 2014 03:44 gumshoe wrote:
What is scums motive for back tracking while no one is willing to lynch Geript?

ARE YOU FN KIDDING ME? You based half your case on me for going back on my reads. You even specifically used the work "backtrack"
On February 27 2014 11:05 gumshoe wrote:
He starts fires where ever he can and hopes they catch. When they dont, he moves on until something sticks, but hes always willing to backtrack.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
February 27 2014 19:11 GMT
#1448
I'm not lynching geript today, that's for sure.

I wouldn't expect that kind of emotionality from scum. He gives me a strong impression that he actually believes what he writes, and even if a townie writes nonsense, he can still be townie for the way he supports it. You posted LIX, toad. I am the living proof for that.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 19:11 GMT
#1449
On February 28 2014 03:58 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 03:38 gumshoe wrote:
You are my number one scum read, I see no reason to discuss anything with you.
Yet you had no problem going back and forth discussing things w/ me yesterday. Is the reason you refuse to discuss this in particular because you've been completely caught in a lie?
Not only that but you've been discussing plenty of shit w/ vivax who you supposedly have as a scum read as well.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
February 27 2014 19:13 GMT
#1450
On February 28 2014 04:11 Vivax wrote:
I'm not lynching geript today, that's for sure.

I wouldn't expect that kind of emotionality from scum. He gives me a strong impression that he actually believes what he writes, and even if a townie writes nonsense, he can still be townie for the way he supports it. You posted LIX, toad. I am the living proof for that.

The guy was given a chance to come back and proof himself. He threw it in the bucket, ignored it and kept doing what he was doing all game long ignoring everyone else.

HE WANTS TO BE EMOTIONAL.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 27 2014 19:19 GMT
#1451
On February 28 2014 04:11 Vivax wrote:
I'm not lynching geript today, that's for sure.

I wouldn't expect that kind of emotionality from scum. He gives me a strong impression that he actually believes what he writes, and even if a townie writes nonsense, he can still be townie for the way he supports it. You posted LIX, toad. I am the living proof for that.


then maybe you should check survivor series
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 27 2014 19:20 GMT
#1452
and also dp in vengeful, and also me in hogwarts and survivor, scum can easily do emotion
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
February 27 2014 19:21 GMT
#1453
On February 28 2014 04:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 04:11 Vivax wrote:
I'm not lynching geript today, that's for sure.

I wouldn't expect that kind of emotionality from scum. He gives me a strong impression that he actually believes what he writes, and even if a townie writes nonsense, he can still be townie for the way he supports it. You posted LIX, toad. I am the living proof for that.


then maybe you should check survivor series


Skimmed it, doesn't look at all like here. Many voteswitches, few reasons. Couldn't really spot a tunnel. Also jokey tones at the beginning of the game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
February 27 2014 19:22 GMT
#1454
And now gonna check if he was mafia or not lol.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 27 2014 19:27 GMT
#1455
he raged at palmar a lot and tunelled him for the entirety of day 1 -.- you can't look at post day 1 in that game and compare it to this
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 27 2014 19:28 GMT
#1456
On February 28 2014 04:11 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 03:58 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 28 2014 03:38 gumshoe wrote:
You are my number one scum read, I see no reason to discuss anything with you.
Yet you had no problem going back and forth discussing things w/ me yesterday. Is the reason you refuse to discuss this in particular because you've been completely caught in a lie?
Not only that but you've been discussing plenty of shit w/ vivax who you supposedly have as a scum read as well.


He is my number two scum read ( : big gap in between the two, what do you think the titan fall hype?
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
February 27 2014 19:28 GMT
#1457
And the point you want to make is? If somebody is scum depends on whether he tunnels or not?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
February 27 2014 19:29 GMT
#1458
On February 28 2014 04:28 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 04:11 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 28 2014 03:58 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 28 2014 03:38 gumshoe wrote:
You are my number one scum read, I see no reason to discuss anything with you.
Yet you had no problem going back and forth discussing things w/ me yesterday. Is the reason you refuse to discuss this in particular because you've been completely caught in a lie?
Not only that but you've been discussing plenty of shit w/ vivax who you supposedly have as a scum read as well.


He is my number two scum read ( : big gap in between the two, what do you think the titan fall hype?


What happened to your suki scum read. A lot of your bad cases on JJD are based on them being scum together and showing their connections.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 27 2014 19:30 GMT
#1459
On February 28 2014 04:28 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 04:11 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 28 2014 03:58 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 28 2014 03:38 gumshoe wrote:
You are my number one scum read, I see no reason to discuss anything with you.
Yet you had no problem going back and forth discussing things w/ me yesterday. Is the reason you refuse to discuss this in particular because you've been completely caught in a lie?
Not only that but you've been discussing plenty of shit w/ vivax who you supposedly have as a scum read as well.


He is my number two scum read ( : big gap in between the two, what do you think the titan fall hype?

Why are you responding to me right now? Is it because you actually have an answer to this but not an answer as to why you lied earlier or why your "backtrack" read is scum for 1 person but not another?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22297 Posts
February 27 2014 19:31 GMT
#1460
And with that I mean: How did you go from this

So yeah, my scum team is primarily Suki and Jar, with Vivax in the wings(much sheep on the case against him)


to this

He is my number two scum read ( : big gap in between the two, what do you think the titan fall hype?
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