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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 05:05 GMT
#1171
On February 27 2014 14:05 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 13:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 27 2014 13:45 Mocsta wrote:
Wave

Do u find it odd that geript is much more assertive when describing why I could be town vs vivax?

I find it annoying that geript is playing like ass for fun right now.
He's probably town but it makes me want to policy him.

Gratz, you're back on my lynch list.


nobody cares about your arbitrary list i hope you know that
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 05:25 GMT
#1181
On February 27 2014 13:24 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:11 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:07 suki wrote:
Sorry wave what exactly are you calling me scummy for? Also I did not say that mocsta was scum for his reads not evolving andi don't know how you got that from my case on him.



Suki, what do you think of Jar Jar?

Why did you feel that the Chyz's poor play was scummy, even though it was similar to his newbie town play youd encountered in newbie LI? A game in which you exploited his shoddy play in order to get him mislynched.


My gut read reading Jar Jar is that he is town. I have other people who I want to look at first before him, those reads are coming up.

My Chyz case was made looking at just this game. I finished it in a rush as I was on a time crunch. You and Holy are calling me out for coming to the conclusion that TheChyz's play is "weak", well it is. I thought it was scummy. I'm going to refresh my memory of the game with him because I really don't remember his play.

On February 27 2014 14:18 suki wrote:
Also Holy's case on me on the previous page is bad. Does anybody actually want me to address any of that stuff?

Looking into more people now.


These two things don't make sense together, half of what I said against her she says was correct (bolded) and then she says my case is bad despite just agreeing to a part of it
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 05:32 GMT
#1184
On February 27 2014 14:28 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 14:25 Holyflare wrote:
On February 27 2014 13:24 suki wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:11 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:07 suki wrote:
Sorry wave what exactly are you calling me scummy for? Also I did not say that mocsta was scum for his reads not evolving andi don't know how you got that from my case on him.



Suki, what do you think of Jar Jar?

Why did you feel that the Chyz's poor play was scummy, even though it was similar to his newbie town play youd encountered in newbie LI? A game in which you exploited his shoddy play in order to get him mislynched.


My gut read reading Jar Jar is that he is town. I have other people who I want to look at first before him, those reads are coming up.

My Chyz case was made looking at just this game. I finished it in a rush as I was on a time crunch. You and Holy are calling me out for coming to the conclusion that TheChyz's play is "weak", well it is. I thought it was scummy. I'm going to refresh my memory of the game with him because I really don't remember his play.

On February 27 2014 14:18 suki wrote:
Also Holy's case on me on the previous page is bad. Does anybody actually want me to address any of that stuff?

Looking into more people now.


These two things don't make sense together, half of what I said against her she says was correct (bolded) and then she says my case is bad despite just agreeing to a part of it


She said you were calling her out because she said TheChyz had weak play.

The truth of the matter is that he does, and commenting on it isn't indicative of alignment yet. I've actually made a short case based on the small amount of times he has talked earlier in the game, and he has yet to comment on it.


right.... so then she said it was a legitimate call out only to then say my case was bad despite agreeing that her case was bad in the first place ~__~
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 05:38 GMT
#1185
ok wave for the sake of sanity, let's be friends! i'll re-read/discuss your vivax stuffz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 06:51 GMT
#1210
On February 27 2014 15:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 14:38 Holyflare wrote:
ok wave for the sake of sanity, let's be friends! i'll re-read/discuss your vivax stuffz

Am I being trolled?
Did you actually write this and then leave?
Fuck this game.


Sorry man i didn't realise it was 6am at the time and i may have fallen asleep x_x sanity was for your sanity, i will discuss when we're both awake though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 07:02 GMT
#1213
Well yeh it should + the fact that he could also be scum :p but ya bbl
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 14:12 GMT
#1294
hello
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 14:18 GMT
#1301
the past like 5 pages are just talking about things that people have already said, it's nothing new and people are getting cred for other people's posts :o
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 14:18 GMT
#1303
wave wanna chat about the vivax stuff now?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 14:21 GMT
#1308
also don't like geript atm he's bringing up so many points that people have already talked about as his own reasoning and mentions that because his town reads are x, y, z he's now ignoring other people "whatever hf says idgaf"??? yet is now following like 1/2 of what i've said about other people :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 14:22 GMT
#1309
On February 27 2014 23:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta found a way to perfectly deflect my case. There is nothing i can do about it.


stop the wifom of your mind, that post meant nothing and it's actually more likely to modconfirm him scum than town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 14:59 GMT
#1326
Just gonna post some stuff i found off about vivax earlier, last quote is probably most apt.

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 27 2014 03:54 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 02:53 Vivax wrote:
Jeez why couldn't I roll scum in this game. You guys are all so busy with fighting each other in such an unproductive way, and nobody called me out for not doing anything since I posted those points on gumshoe

Oh well back to lurking.


Got anything other than your gumshoe point? I notice how you only conclude that his post is scum orientated but don't pressure it further, ask him about it or vote him, yet, with Geript you ask him to elaborate on posts you aren't sure about and pressure him to expand on his reads. Why is that?





On February 27 2014 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
No, I didn't read all of it at that point. I just found that post scummy and wrote the points right off the bat.


Your only point on gumshoe was his first postyness, you tried to extrapolate and elaborate on that to both mocsta and wave by saying it most likely comes from a scum mindset but then just say you never read anything more from him???? Based on your posts he'd be your scum read but then you neglect to examine the rest of his posts anymore? I thought you just told me that we were "gathering information for town" but your posting follows this line of thought

Show nested quote +
Besides, how can you draw the line between avoiding and not showing interest into somebody? Saying that I avoid somebody already puts the premise there that what I do is supposed to be scummy, which reflects a possible agenda to paint me as scummy.
not talking about your read other than his first post screams more of an agenda than what you were talking about just now.



On February 27 2014 09:28 Holyflare wrote:
ebwop

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On February 27 2014 09:20 Vivax wrote:
That post kinda makes me more confident that he's scum. He doesn't fight back.


I have a major problem about your reads and mocsta does highlight that too. You initially say you don't want to talk to people unless they are around, that's ok, i've seen people play like that, then you start to post cases about other people when they aren't around, at this point it's looking more suspect because they can't defend themselves at that present moment and when that falls flat on your face you change your read on gumshoe because thread sentiment is lynching mocsta and the only reason you give for it is

Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 07:31 Vivax wrote:
I'll sheep ya, Rayn.
I want to add a few points though.

Filterskim reveals a very passive Mocsta, no cases on people he believes to be scum since he has been put into the defensive.

What I also don't understand is how he townreads WoS out of nowhere. He looked scummy to you, he looks scummy to me, and for him it's the strongest townread, and then he asks a question like this, which shouldn't interest him in the slightest if he's town imo:

On February 27 2014 01:30 Mocsta wrote:
On February 27 2014 01:28 geript wrote:
Toadescum. Idgaf what you think or ever thought about claiming miller. It's trolly regardless and I wish Palmar were here to help lynch you.
Where do you stand with Wave currently?




##Unvote
##Vote Mocsta


Putting WoS on the backfire for now. Mocsta is a more solid (and likely) lynch.


the only reason you want to join this bandwagon is that he is passive and gives a town read on your scum read out of nowhere, yet, this is the ONLY reason compared to your wall of text on wave and your pressure on gumshoe

why are you sheeping so hard? why has your play devolved from what you think is best to wanting to fit in the most when needed to? your biggest scum read is seemingly wave but you're happy to lynch mocsta based on unflipped associations to a wonky read but when your other original scum read (gumshoe) did this on suki/mocsta at the start he can now be town?







Also, geript is starting to get on my nerves, things like this are a complete joke:

snip .....Like even his whole list of reads was totally scummy and none of them made any sense. Like you guys should've been all over him like a fat man on a hooker by now. I expect you to change your vote to toad and help drive the wagon instead of shitting the bed.

Moc I'd appreciate your help too. HF I really DGAF what you do.


This post completely rubbed me the wrong way because if geript was actually reading the thread he'd know this wasn't the case. Seemingly i'm on of his PoE scum reads that he doesn't pressure and doesn't give a fuck what I say but is quite happy to not read anything I say and then chastise everyone else for not talking about points already brought up:

On February 27 2014 05:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 05:49 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 27 2014 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript and Toad can you give your opinions on Mocsta?

bottom three in my list together with HF and geript. Not really able to write more than 2 or 3 liners while playing PC though.


do you care to elaborate on that? you used me posting against geript to bolster how geript wasn't making sense, my vote is on mocsta and I have been pressuring him all the game, yet, i'm with both of them?

On February 27 2014 05:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 05:49 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 27 2014 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript and Toad can you give your opinions on Mocsta?

bottom three in my list together with HF and geript. Not really able to write more than 2 or 3 liners while playing PC though.


also adding to this, you seem to agree with a lot of what mocsta is saying but he's also in your bottom three over people like chyz that everyone and their mother has been discussing? don't get it

On February 27 2014 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 06:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 27 2014 05:59 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 27 2014 05:53 Holyflare wrote:
On February 27 2014 05:49 Toadesstern wrote:
On February 27 2014 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript and Toad can you give your opinions on Mocsta?

bottom three in my list together with HF and geript. Not really able to write more than 2 or 3 liners while playing PC though.


also adding to this, you seem to agree with a lot of what mocsta is saying but he's also in your bottom three over people like chyz that everyone and their mother has been discussing? don't get it

ctrl-f mocsta my filter and tell me where.

The only time I "agree" with him is this:
On February 26 2014 22:09 Toadesstern wrote:
oh Mocsta already came to the rescue. Good boy.


I also want an answer to this.


It's not so much agreeing per se but more the fact that the only reason you start to jump on mocsta is because of something i wrote (scum slip thing) and then when he explains it you completely drop your initial suspicion and talk over points with him and instead of getting to the bottom of motives you instead just disagree or point out why you think what he is saying is wrong/not possible. It doesn't look like an interaction with someone in your "bottom 3" scum suspects at all.

Then there's your read on me... which is.... just lol

On February 27 2014 09:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 09:05 Vivax wrote:
Rayn how confident are you that HF is town? Didn't like those questions he asked me back then. I felt like he wanted me to say obvious stuff.


How can you go from stating like 1 page back that we shouldn't be giving out town reads but then the next page literally just asking for town reads?????

Also @ Toad, why have you continuously put me in your top 3 scum reads but your only reasoning is for one post that I questioned you about? What is my scum motivation behind that? What else is there that makes you lean scum on me over people that have not been present or opportunistically posting? You haven't qualified it or discussed anything about me at all, or mocsta, yet we're still in your top 3.



For someone that is his top scum read and someone else who is his PoE scum read, he sure hasn't read ANYTHING to do with either of us. I don't like geript's posting, it seems to be very "i have this thought process so i'll drive into into everyone" and i admit i haven't played with him before but this seemed just like what i was playing with in survivor with him and palmar.

Not only that but he has a strict thought to not follow what anyone else says even after everyone has been telling him that what he is doing is shit he doesn't listen. That is until rayn says he's shit and then he bends over painstakingly backwards to get rayn on his side by god forbid, reading someone's filter!!!!


On February 27 2014 17:06 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 16:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax.

Btw i also think you are modconfirmed town, despite me thinking you were town earlier.
Hosts should never interact with the game in any way and while your modconfirmation is most likely crap there is a chance it's not because it makes sense. So from now on i will make a policy that i refuse to believe anyone who get's "modconfirmed" by stupid hosts or does BS shit like Mocsta is town and if it ruins the game so be it because it's not my fault.

Nope not going to do it. I have a townread on him and I refuse to read any more shazazzly cases on him.

On February 27 2014 17:22 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 16:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And that's why noone believes you. You are not going to convince me with your case. You never talk to Toad about anything else than the crap from the beginning, you just rehash the old point noone believes over and over again and say "i know this guy is mafia". I said it before and i say it again, if you don't have more i will not believe you.

Like here's the beef Rayn, like I'm here rereading Vivax despite the fact that I think he's town. Despite the fact that I don't really like the cases on him. Despite the fact that no ones even fucking to bother to read Toad. You think I'm town, hell you even agree I'm mod confirmed. Sweet. But like, you scratch my back I scratch yours dude.



I don't like him and I'd be happy to vote anywhere between vivax/suki/geript (sheep me on suki, just belieeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 15:02 GMT
#1327
oh snap, suki is voting vivax?

uber conflicted right now
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 15:06 GMT
#1329
On February 28 2014 00:03 Vivax wrote:
If you had read the thread you would have known she posted stuff on me earlier.
Not reading your scumreads' stuff?


no she copy and pasted everything people had already said which is easy to do to +1 a vote, especially as she didn't vote you till now
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 15:07 GMT
#1330
like, she's made 2 giant walls of text on the chyz, 1 giant wall of text on mocsta, backtracked on mocsta a lot and then sheeps everything on you rather than following or pushing her read on chyz at all?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 15:09 GMT
#1334
On February 28 2014 00:07 suki wrote:
Holy what are your thoughts on TheChyz?


he's confirmed town right now
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 15:20 GMT
#1345
toad... what....? how have i now dropped off your list
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 15:20 GMT
#1346
On February 28 2014 00:18 Vivax wrote:
I don't get it Toad (that video and what it has to do with me, but funny nontheless). Besides, do you understand the rayn thingy? I still don't comprehend how Mocsta is supposed to be modconfirmed.


he's not
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 15:39 GMT
#1357
oh ange when you read this far, when I said "scum slip" on mocsta it was a semi-jokey/accusatory "scum slip" because he said town don't make posts like that to wave and then he made a post like that so by his own definition he wouldn't be town but yes carry on
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
February 27 2014 15:40 GMT
#1359
On February 28 2014 00:39 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 00:13 Mocsta wrote:
On February 28 2014 00:11 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 28 2014 00:09 Vivax wrote:
JarJar what's your take on me? I'm a more likely candidate than gum atm.
I'd say I'm null on you. Maybe leaning slightly town.

im keen to hear a bit more about this one.
I don't think any of the cases against him are all that strong. The reason I'm leaning town as opposed to null is because him being scum doesn't mesh all that well w/ gumshoe as his scumbuddy.


i suggest you refrain from any and all pre-flip associations and just vote people on the merit of their scummyness
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