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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 11:45 GMT
#1018
And people that put themselves in their lists are silly. Many people do this silly thing though.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 11:50 GMT
#1020
On February 21 2014 20:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 20:44 Koshi wrote:
On February 21 2014 20:40 Palmar wrote:
Btw @Koshi:

I have 4 people in my two "town-tiers". Three of them are prplhz, marv and I. you get extra town points if you're attentive enough about me (you should be, you said I'm scum) go guess the fourth person.

it better be rayn.

Do you think rayn calling me mafia is townie, Koshi? why else do you have him solid town now?

Biggest filter & Driven.
Calling you mafia does not make him mafia even if you say he does it when he is mafia. Not this game. He was also too smug about it. Is he normally smug about it?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 11:53 GMT
#1021
Also he made a case on Toad. If you believe Toad is scum, rayn isn't scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 12:19 GMT
#1025
that doesn't even make sense.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 12:28 GMT
#1033
Don't know why plprhz is God Tier but I guess mafia wouldn't put a not influancial guy there and all the influancial guys under him. Or maybe they would but I don't have you as scum anymore.

Think I'll wait till after Toad flips to find new scummers.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 12:44 GMT
#1042
It's only Palmar. I am watching you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 12:53 GMT
#1050
If you are mafia Kush. That's a nice safe.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 12:54 GMT
#1052
rayn such a sleepy head. It's 14:00. I can use some drama atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 13:15 GMT
#1071
On February 21 2014 22:11 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 09:14 suki wrote:
Puppy <3

Yes. Actually. There is no downside to having your vote on someone else, especially this early in the game. Why is Rayn abstaining from even the miniscule amount of pressure a random vote has, and why does he think that abstaining is a good idea?

(Rayn does that clear up my question for you)


so this is the post oats is talking about right?

I think this one:
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On February 20 2014 11:00 suki wrote:
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rayn said:
We don't want that because we benefit from clarity and it's beneficial we know exactly WHEN and WHY people drop their scumreads and where they head next. If they don't have next target they should inform that by voting for themselves. This prevents mafia from misrepresenting people because you can always back up your thoughts with your actions in thread (most importantly voting). Having no possibility to unvote is pro-mafia, if you't agree with that you need to explain me why. It's never irrelevant where your vote is at.


Here's how I see it. Because you're forced to vote someone, you can't unvote and remain without an opinion (well, except with this stupid plan). This is pro-town. If someone voted Koshi and said, 'I don't think Koshi is scum anymore' but kept his vote on Koshi, then pressuring that person to take a stance on someone else IS pro-town because they can't just unvote and say 'I dont know I'm thinking'.

It forces accountability, and mafia hate being accountable for their actions. This outweighs scum possibly misrepresenting someone because they didn't take off their vote.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 13:24 GMT
#1080
Kush, one of the first games I played with Oats I went after him because he gave everybody reads like that. He was town and I was scum.
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On August 08 2013 21:20 Koshi wrote:
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On August 08 2013 19:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 19:47 Koshi wrote:
@ Oats. Tell me why you have townreads on your house. Don't use names but you can at least tell us WHY they are town. It's impossible to actually know if somebody is town in your house. At this point I think Oats his house is filled with scum only.

Why I have townreads on the dudes? Cause they are nice and helpful and shit. No obvious scummy pms, natural.


Nothing like your house, controversy everywhere.

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On August 08 2013 21:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 08 2013 21:06 Xatalos wrote:
Oats, why do you have a scumread on Koshi again? Because this post before claiming him as scum doesn't really explain it:

On August 08 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Oats, we just played in Titanic and you come in this thread and say that you know that everybody in your house is town and that you will protect their identity? You must be really REALLY confident in this game.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Um what? My reads were mostly right in Titanic. 1 wrong read. whatever.

I only prevent you from knowing who I can contact through pms.
All this other stuff is really weird. I didnt get elected.


koshi didnt explain why dandel's actions was scum, when all the things he said seem to be townie to me, like agressive and shit. Killing kush was probably a joke, dunno.
Also, he didnt explain why im scum. This whole statement is bullshit.
You prevent us to find scum in your house and you prevent your house by talking about how you got elected or prevent them from giving away information about you.

Its not what Im doing at all. And its really weird that this is the conclusion that he drew from my statements so far.

1) Oats townreads are either "nice and shit" or "agressive and shit".
2) Oats does not realise that this game is 6 pages long instead of 20.
3) Oats calls me scum if I point out he is shitting up the thread.
4) Oats does not answer me when I ask him who should be lord in our house in theory, but then wants me to explain to him why I find DI scummy over S0lstice.

Here is my first real scumread.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 13:26 GMT
#1085
On February 21 2014 22:25 VIVAX420 wrote:
know when you like half write up a huge case on someone then in the middle you realize they are probably town then you are like fuck i wasted all this time

You weren't doing this right? Because all the little bits of your "case" are already in the thread.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 13:39 GMT
#1089
If was in a jury and I could press a button with a circle or one with a cross I would be smashing the cross button atm.

Kush/Toad/suki
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 13:49 GMT
#1091
No. But lately these jurys only got 1 button and it's a cross.
Point of the story is that I would be pressing the button.

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cuz he is scum
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 14:06 GMT
#1107
damned. And he was the angriest at rayn. I don't get any towncred from this lynch
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 14:20 GMT
#1132
On February 21 2014 23:19 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 23:17 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:16 prplhz wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:11 marvellosity wrote:
On February 21 2014 23:07 prplhz wrote:
he was never scum tier material, i just thought he was acting a little odd but i accept that it could just have been a "vote this and lets see what happens" kind of thing, i think he's done that plenty of times before

he seems like he's in a very jolly mood and i think that points at town. i think he likes town more than scum.

also this toad lynch is more yours than his

yes I said "his" because you were attacking Palmar and Palmar is championing toad, not because Palmar specifically started the lynch.

it wasn't really an attack, it was just a "bah i don't like railroading anyone, not even toad, lets see if something odd is happening that i can prod at" and then palmar did something odd and i pointed it out.

maybe he is championing it but i really still consider it your lynch because he's using your arguments. i guess in reality it the arguments' lynch but they're your arguments so it's kind of your lynch. doesn't matter all that much whose lynch it is though i guess.

what do you think about oats? is he another "leave him be and we'll figure him out"?

yes it's irrelevant, i was explaining why i said his. ergo you said palmar was shady and palmar was championing toad. literally nothing more to it.

i have no idea about oats at all. not sure we'll figure him out eventually either.


I suggest the rope+tree investigative method.

100% success rate.

this one is quite funny.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 14:25 GMT
#1137
suki, planning on making waves today?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 14:31 GMT
#1142
CuteFluffyPuppy

ARE YOU THE STRAY KITTEN???
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 14:31 GMT
#1144
On February 21 2014 23:31 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 23:25 Koshi wrote:
suki, planning on making waves today?


Do you?

I asked first.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 14:34 GMT
#1148
On February 21 2014 23:33 suki wrote:
How is the answer to my question in any way at all alignment indicative?

You asked the same question back.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
February 21 2014 14:36 GMT
#1152
On February 21 2014 23:34 CuteFluffyPuppy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 23:31 Koshi wrote:
CuteFluffyPuppy

ARE YOU THE STRAY KITTEN???

It is a mystery.

It is in the rules that when you smurf everybody is allowed 1 guess and you need to answer truthfully.
I had a good night of sleep.
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