EPTOn February 09 2014 12:24 Coagulation wrote:
yeah vigi just shoot me plz
yeah vigi just shoot me plz
Whats your motivation for this : /
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On February 09 2014 12:01 Aquanim wrote: hihi anyone want to have a chat? Aquanim. I would like to talk mmmate. What do you think of Suki? Do you have any opinion on if we should try to get the vig to shoot someone via vote or something similar. What do you think of Coag wanting Vig to shoot him. | ||
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On February 09 2014 12:29 Koshi wrote: If you are going to continue being a bitch we just have to kill you. But that's on you. Koshi comon you were in Lol lets try to avoid calling people bitchezzzz I would also like to talk to you. What do you think of the votes do you think both mafia bussed Jonny. I know from my perspective that at least one mafia bussed him as I think it was just me and Suki not on jonny. Also BE HAPPIER DAMMNIT. | ||
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On February 09 2014 12:43 Koshi wrote: rofl. I am tired atm. I gave 4 names bro. Bussing or not bussing. The endvotes don't really matter. We shouldn't forget marv in original. Also, what happened in LoL so I can't call people bitches? I am off to bed. In LoL PYP there was a good bit of name calling and yea IDK we want to improve the mafia forum. Just more of a cautionary thing. | ||
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On February 09 2014 13:43 Aquanim wrote: oh hey I wandered off to play dota, sorry On Suki: Trolly and more importantly content-free start to the game set off serious alarm bells for me at the time. I'm not yet sure how much weight to give that phase of the game as opposed to her greater amount of content later. Hopeless said it very well here: Suki's been contributing her thoughts to the thread and trying to push a lynch but... something feels a little weird. I should have a better thought-out opinion on Suki later. -----//----- If we have a vigilante, they can do what they please. I have better things to do than direct blue roles. -----//----- Coag wanting a vigilante to shoot him is... bizarre, I'm not sure what to make of that. That slot wouldn't be a bad vigilante shot (alak and Coag aren't the most readable of players, and replacement slots are annoying at best), but calling for a shot on himself is some weird shit. tl;dr I have no idea. Do you have any theories about Coag asking for a shot on himself? Town/scum motivations for it? Yea Suki's start was pretty bad. Her post where she was giving me crap for "sheeping" Jonnys post about Koshi's accusation of me when it was the other way around. Still sticks in my mind. It felt so wrong for her. Especially when i found out she was wrong in who posted first and then she didn't even apologize till much later when I mentioned it in the thread. I think she was actively trying to discredit me. After her short Sidesprang meta business she hopped on the jay tunnel and has been riding it all day 1. As I see it we have two options. So she has either been focusing me to try to divert the case from Jonny and shes scum. Or she is a townie that is just convinced I'm scum and won't stop till she founds out my alignment. I have played like that before and been wrong. However also notice that this doesn't line up with Suki's play last game. She was very poking and prodding and always questioning making cases. Backing off them if she felt like they were answered. She didn't show this tunneling mindset at all. In fact just the opposite she could barely keep scum read on someone for very long. I think the change of playstyle from Suki might be becasue it is harder to switch reads and naturally show a inquisitive townie mindset as scum. As a town player reads evolve and change as you get new information you should be processing it and reaching new conclusions as you go along. However scum can't do this because they already have all the information and they have to fake it. Similar to how my read changed on Koshi to HOLY SHIT THIS GUY IS SO TOTES SCUM, to a null read, to welp this guy is town. That is a natural townie progression with the natural flow of information. However when I dropped Koshi as someone I was pursuing instead of Suki realizing that I was making the wise choice and trying to get some perspective from other town players. She accuses me of not following my reads, not scum hunting she threw every scummy thing and the kitchen sink at me. I just don't find it likely that this is coming from a townie mindset. So in conclusion I think Suki could be our next scum suspect. On Coag again I can see it from two perspectives. If hes townie then he just feels over whelmed and like he won't be an asset to town. However when he asked Balla if we were set on lynching Alakslam Balla told him No a definite not. Which you think would be a bit of relief and give him the chance to try to prove him self as a townie. However he just continues to call out for a shoot on him. It just feels all wrong. So what I think is more likely is that hes scum trying to make it appear that he just wants whats best for town. If we use a vig shot on him then it will be what is "best for town." However that's bullshit we would be wasting one of towns KP on a fellow townie. We would be closer to LYLO his shot would give no information to town but that he's a unmotivated townie. There is nothing good about a townie calling a vig shot on himself. It's not even like he dug himself in a hole were its a bit more understandable to be a bit down if you tried your best and everyone think he is still scum. He hasn't even tried. He is going for a martyr approach to appeal to peoples emotion and try to have us coax him out with promises of not lynching him and to just try his best and all this bullshit. I think its a clever ruse used by him to confuse some townies. (A scum wouldn't ask for a Vig shot on himself.) And to give himself an advantage in the up coming days. So yea you might be able to guess my two candidates for tomorrow. | ||
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On February 09 2014 14:17 Balla24 wrote: WIFOM at best. Not thinking about it. I've been wrestling with suki's alignment for the past like 4 hours. I think this is where the term "Svengali" applies or whatever Slam loves to use. She's way too good at manipulating me. She's way too good at scum. There's so much in her filter that is sooooooooo townie, but there's so much that's making me think back to the scum game she had and saying... wow... that's really similar. I've probably written and erased like 3 of my long posts about her now... maybe I should just post both the town version and the scum version. Ask yourself why would a townie would be using WIFOM? In regards to Suki, Balla this is you. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/A9X4mxE.jpg) This is what the town needs you to be. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/avjGeeQ.jpg) | ||
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On February 09 2014 14:56 Balla24 wrote: FUCK I WANTED TO USE MY 1.5k POST ON IT. lolz  | ||
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On February 09 2014 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah suki pretty scummy for wanting to lynch LM but voting for jay the claimrd doc. Coag post seal pls Seems to me your just messing around from last game. But at this point in the game we should be starting to get serious and you have not posted enough that we know your alignment yet. Oats lets talk what do you think about Suki and Coag and Hopeless1der | ||
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On February 09 2014 15:33 Balla24 wrote: Offtopic: I'd just like to state that even if I'm wrong on everything from here on out, this has already been the funnest game of mafia i've ever played. You guys are great. There's really no bad blood compared to normal games or anything like that we're just a bunch of carebears having fun calling each other mafia. Good times, good times. I resent this. | ||
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Pretty random and funny. Any who think I'm going to make an egg sandwich and ham. | ||
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I also resent this. + Show Spoiler + Glad to have my clone seeing clearly tho | ||
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On February 08 2014 13:16 suki wrote: If you're getting lynched it's because you haven't shown your desire to meaningfully contribute to town. I've given you lots of chances. I've asked you for reads. What am I supposed to think now? Go on. Try to get me lynched. I dare you. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eczhV57.jpg) | ||
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COME OUT TO PLAY :D | ||
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On February 10 2014 03:17 Balla24 wrote: There's a big problem here in that out of Jaybrundage/Suki, both had very similar non logical progressions on Jonny. Both wanted to see "more" from him, both saw him as scummy later in the day but didn't switch to him. I feel that Suki's progression makes more sense. She was pushing jaybrundage hard because she thought he was scum. Jay's doesn't really follow. It was clear that Jonny was going to get lynched, and he doesn't really share his opinions, he OMGUS vs suki and then his thread presence during the lynch was non-existent. There was no thoughts on the lynch DURING the lynch which I find really surprising for jay. He kind of accepted it and stuck on a useless suki vote, didn't try to push it on anybody else etc etc. He wasn't doing anything even though he should have been doing something, as though it was a lost cause. I really do feel like we have a scum within suki/jay though, so if we lynch within them we have 50% chance on either. Whereas out of the jonny voters I think we are getting more to a 25% chance or so to hit the scum. Although if I'm wrong about this. There's actually 2 scum in the jonny vote and therefore we have closer to a 50% chance of hitting scum in there. I can't decide whether I'd like to lynch within the jonny voters or within jay/suki. Yea I was a bit of a mess later on in day 1. I didn't feel convicted with jonny being scum. I had an early town read on him. I thought you and Koshi were scum and when jonny was agreeing with my thinking it made me think he was town. I was using the heuristic that people who think similarly to me were more likely to be the same alignment as me. However I was wrong with ya'll being scum and similarly with Jonny being town. So yea my reads were all pretty bad early day 1. I began to see jonny as nuller as the day went on. But I never felt that he was sure scum or anything. Then when I got too the thread in the near end of the day. I felt scared to contribute as I didn't want to attract unwanted attention by saying the wrong thing and getting mislynched. I had had a pretty shitty day 1 so I was being pretty cautious. This is a bit of a scummy mind set but I didn't really have much conviction on jonny. I was still pretty null on him. I felt going to the thread and waffling would look bad. So in the end when I commented I didn't mention him at all. As I had nothing of use to add. Instead I commented on other people of interest. I could of moved my vote to jonny. But it felt like it was an empty action. What would be the point of it. He was getting lynched and I had nothing to add or much of opinion that was worth voicing. Alot of this hesitancy stemmed from my bad day 1 and at that point in the game. I was fine with my strong town reads: Balla, Aqua having the reins to the lynch wagon. My biggest concern after my botched start was not to get mislynched tho as opposed to trying to lead a lynch. I tried with who I thought was scum at the beginning. But after that went badly I just wanted to make sure town didn't get a mislynch on me. So that should explain my end of the day play I believe. If you have any questions feel free to ask. I might not be back respond till after the night is over tho. | ||
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Also I asked you earlier about Hopeless1der what are your thoughts on him? | ||
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