EPT[S] Shadowed Mini Mafia: The Reboot - Page 6
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The way I see it, if there's even the faintest possibility he flips scum we should lynch him now - because he doesn't even count as a townie. If we get to LYLO with coag, we've already lost. On that basis, even if he's town we lose nothing by lynching him today. | ||
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On February 11 2014 16:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah I do actually. And he will play the game if people dont get irrationally mad when coag posts anything. I would totally like a lylo with coag. We lose a nightkill to to get rid of an obvious townie. Thats not nothing. And then we start day 3 the same as day 2 but without a strong townie. Show me someone getting irrationally mad when Coag posts. | ||
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On February 11 2014 17:01 Oatsmaster wrote: You think that coag will never ever be useful ever? That's exactly what I think. In all the games I have ever seen him I have never ever seen coag be useful, ever. | ||
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On February 11 2014 17:05 Oatsmaster wrote: He was useful in pyp 4. Caused 2 scum deaths. I dont even know why coag keeps playing when you guys keep shitting on him every game when he doesnt do what you want <shrug> I don't read theme games. And I don't see what's so unreasonable about asking someone to justify their views. | ||
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On February 11 2014 17:43 Oatsmaster wrote: Did you read his scum games? Because you should Can you suggest one? LXIV is a PM game so his posts in the thread are basically irrelevant, Aperture he substituted in on page 110 and was hopelessly lost or something (it was some stupid theme game anyway so I'm not keen on meta from it) and every other one of his scum games I can find is like 3 years old (again, basically irrelevant re. meta). I can't find any others but I haven't done a truly exhaustive search of games since the last database update. | ||
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On February 07 2014 19:17 Oatsmaster wrote: ... ##unvote ##vote Sidesprang Firstly his scumreads dont make sense. He summarizes all our filters and doesnt say anything about how it makes us scum, the things he pointed out in your filters were slightly suspicious, which was all he was saying at the time AFAIK he isnt reading in depth at all to know that I think johnny is town Did you think Johnny was town? news to me and his townread on suki doesnt make sense either meh... dunno that this is particularly scummy bleh its hard to phrase but I dont get the feeling like he is questioning anything at all in this game. that I'll have to think about On February 10 2014 00:04 Oatsmaster wrote: Sidesprang totally scummy for waffling on his read on me and hopeless and he doesnt even say what he thinks about our votes and stuff leading up to it. did you forget sidesprang? Sidesprang being scum for being unsure about his reads doesn't really convince me. Nor does him not talking about every facet of someone's filter. idk exactly what he meant by this, but I strongly doubt it was a scumclaim. On February 10 2014 11:55 Oatsmaster wrote: sidesprang's vote on Johnny came late and felt like he unnecessarily added stuff in order to not be 'sheeping'. sidesprang's vote on Johnny was in the middle of a list post where he said stuff about multiple people. I don't see how amplifing a vote with "stuff" is scummy. Too many list posts with questions it doesnt seem like he cares about the answers at all. He has two list posts, both made pretty soon after he returned to the thread from a long absense - updating the thread on your current reads makes some sense in that instance. Of those two list posts, only one of them has questions. So what? I've seen scum make good points about other people. I again don't see what your problem is here. On February 11 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol coag is totally an angry lynch. Dont waste today lynching town guys. As scum coag just wouldve given up and not be angry. Sidesprang is todays lynch for bandwagonning onto coag without reasons on why coag is scum I can quite easily imagine a townie just wanting Coag gone regardless of his alignment - that's not too far away from my own position. Look, Oats, if I'm wrong here about Sidesprang I'd prefer you to convince me than not - but your cases haven't done it yet. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Coagulation this game isn't going to move forward until he's gone, I don't think. | ||
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Still don't agree with your point re. the Jonny lynch, in that particular post Sidesprang was giving opinions on a couple of different people and after giving his statement on Jonny voted for him. It would have looked pretty silly for him to give his thoughts on a bunch of other people and then say "By the way, I'm voting this dude I didn't even mention in this post". And about the Hopeless read I still don't really see your problem. "...yeah this isn't bad but they could probably fake this as scum" is a thought I've had on numerous occasions. | ||
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On February 12 2014 00:25 suki wrote: Hm... Call it a hunch, but I'm going to go with Hopeless. I think Oats is town and I he's convinced me that sidesprang is the better lynch for today. I also feel like trusting his meta read on Coag. I also buy the 'sidesprang's reasons are all bad' argument as when sidesprang was town he actually had some decent arguments on why someone is scummy. This game it's all meta reads and kind-of vote analysis. ##unvote ##vote Sidesprang Well, can you convince me that Oats is town then? Don't expect a reply any time soon though, it's pretty late here and I'm heading off. | ||
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On February 12 2014 00:40 Oatsmaster wrote: YEAH EXACTLY. HE CARED HOW HIS POST LOOKED. THATS SCUMMY AQUA. The hopeless thing just really felt like he was trying so hard to be null on hopeless. Actually giving the thread some indication why he was voting Jonny is NOT scummy and I have no idea why you think it is. Now if he'd tryharded and made some huge case that was all rehashed stuff, then I'd be with you. On February 09 2014 02:41 sidesprang wrote: Ok lets see... LM: While reading his filter I just dont see anything that stand out in a scummy way, not neccesarily town either. But not worth looking at this late in the cycle. Alakaslam: I buy that he has been busy with work and whatnot. As I don't think scum!slam would lurk in any way I dont see a reason for lying about it. That being said I dont think his enterance is very good. Starts by complaining about how Balla / Suki trolled early game, which has been pointed out is something he is very capable aswell. And it was obviously something that was prewritten before Balla got the roles. Why bring that shit up again, its a null tell. His points are just fluff. He then says he is going to try some filters, but looks like he only read JayB, maybe the easiest one to pick on at the time. @Slam Did you read up on the rest of the players? Do you got any other reads? What are your thoughts on Jonny? Hopeless: Overall I dont find much scummy or town in his filter. But I agree I don't like why he is giving oats a townread. As oats is able to swap around his vote like that as scum and town it should be a null tell. And as hopeless has been around a lot I would think he would know that. @Hopeless Is there anything other than the voteswapping and how he did it that give you a towntell on oats? Does your towntell diminish if you read some of his scumgames and see he is able to do that as scum aswell? Jonny: Ok he left off by saying he had a case coming on Balla, and that Ballas filter stank. But when he comes back he has a case on Koshi. And imo it sucks, he points to a lot of different things, but I dont see why Koshi is scum from any of them. He claims to have scumreads on Koshi, slam and LM. Where the fuck did Balla go? I think Aquas case on him is really good, especially his conversation with the LM read. It really don't make any sense. @Jonny What is your stance on Balla now? What in his filter stank, is it still stinking ? If not why? ##Vote JonnyLaw But I don't see how this is an scummy amount of space to devote to explaining his Jonny vote. | ||
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On February 12 2014 00:25 suki wrote: I also buy the 'sidesprang's reasons are all bad' argument as when sidesprang was town he actually had some decent arguments on why someone is scummy. This game it's all meta reads and kind-of vote analysis. Dunno whether this is new or just rephrased... but this maybe I can get behind. Lemme go look at a previous game with this in mind real quick before I head off. | ||
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Leaving my vote on Coag for now because I still think he's a liability and is draining the life out of this thread, regardless of his alignment. Hopefully I'll get up before deadline in the morning and have another think about it. | ||
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On February 12 2014 04:16 Coagulation wrote: Aquanim is defending sidesprang hard and making up illogical shit in the process. sidesprang Aquanim scum team calling it now. You're hilarious Coag. Also, you disgust me... but the fact you're posting anything game-relevant at all is apparently a town-tell. (Much happier with the scum-meta from the PYP LoL game than the others I found.) Imma go take a quick look at Sidesprang again. | ||
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