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On February 08 2014 09:22 jaybrundage wrote:
Suki the reasons your case holds no water is because I stated I would be changing my gameplay. You asked me how I would change and I told you. Less advice more scum hunting. And what did I do I scum hunted. It was new information in the thread and whether you don't like my case or not. I said what I was going to do and did it.
Also in regards to my self consciousnesses I almost got mislynched day 1 last game. Don't you think I would look over my game and be kind of hesitant to just play the same. I was thinking about my actions and for good reason. I don't want to get mislynched again.
The only scum hunting I see from you is a refusal to let go of a bad tunnel on Koshi and a policy lynch on a lurker.
What are your thoughts on Jonny? What are your thoughts on Oats and LoneMeow? Who else do you find scummy?
Why aren't you pushing a Koshi lynch because 'he's not on the menu'? As I recall, last game people were mostly on LoneMeow right at the deadline, and a few people hopped off LM and onto you. The vote count was:
LoneMeow (4): Koshi, suki, Balla, jay
Jay (4): Hopeless, Alakaslam, Jonny, LoneMeow
Koshi (1): cakeman
And you decided to unvote LoneMeow and start a push on Koshi. At the very last minute.
I realize that at the time you didn't know what the vote count was and you didn't realize that voting Koshi would get you lynched. However, the point is that even with Koshi not having many votes on him and mixed sentiments across the board about his alignment, you had no problem switching to your most preferred scum target.
This game, there's still about 20 hours to the lynch and you're already like 'nope nothing I can do to convince people Koshi is scum guess I'll just vote slam'.
I really want to hear some good analysis because right now all I see are excuses.
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On February 08 2014 11:14 Oatsmaster wrote:Hmm johnny says he is gonna post a case on balla. I wanna see how that goea but currently I could lynch Hes like really angry. Angry people are scummy people 
Did you see Jonny's play last game? lol. People are suspicious of him right now because he's not being angry when he should be.
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Votecount:
Jaybrundage ( 2 ) : Balla24, Koshi, suki, Hopeless1der, Oatsmaster
JonnyLaw ( 2 ) : suki, Koshi, Aquanim
Alakaslam ( 1 ) : jaybrundage
Sidesprang ( 1 ) : Oatsmaster
suki ( 0 ) : Oatsmaster, Balla24
Koshi ( 0 ) : Jaybrundage
Balla24 ( 0 ) : Jaybrundage, suki
Aquanim ( 0 ) : Balla24
5 people who haven't voted yet: Balla24, Alakaslam, Sidesprang, LoneMeow, JonnyLaw
With 2 votes Jaybrundage is set to be lynched
Deadline on Saturday, Feb 08 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
That means you have got left to vote!
if you happen to find any mistakes in the above, please inform us/me about it immediatly, thanks.
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Oh Mighty Artanis, God of the Shadowed. Can you bless upon us a Vote Count? Whether it be by thine own hand or through the sticky webbed feet of thine pet Toad. :D
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Woahhhh you read my mind O_O
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5 people haven't voted. There is no excuse not to put your current suspicions out there.
Gogo people.
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On February 08 2014 11:47 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 11:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
Because he obviously thinks sprang is town. Nowait. Fair enough. OK I'll talk to you then. What do you think of jayB's case above on Alak? How does it reflect on Alak and jayB to you?
It certainly makes jayb look better. Scummy working his way back to null for alak due to general lurkiness.
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On February 08 2014 12:09 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 11:47 Aquanim wrote:On February 08 2014 11:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
Because he obviously thinks sprang is town. Nowait. Fair enough. OK I'll talk to you then. What do you think of jayB's case above on Alak? How does it reflect on Alak and jayB to you? It certainly makes jayb look better. Scummy working his way back to null for alak due to general lurkiness.
And what about the context of JayB's case on Alak? The fact that he's pushing this lynch instead of providing more analysis on Koshi who he also still finds scummy?
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Suki I gave my reasoning for not going after koshi.I also mentioned jonny before there is no new content from him. I think he could be scum tho. Oats, Lonemeow I think there more likely to be town. I think your a bit scummy. Your early posting with your dismissal of my case just because it was early. You trolling me with things that were simply untrue. You recent posting has been a better.
I went after Koshi at that point because of what was going on in the thread. I felt that lonemeow was town because of his vote on me, Also cake man was making sense in how he was talking about Koshi. They are two completely different scenarios and aren't comparable. I was also right about both my big pushes Hopeless1der was scum as was the target of my last minute switch Koshi.
+ Show Spoiler +On February 08 2014 11:58 suki wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 09:22 jaybrundage wrote:
Suki the reasons your case holds no water is because I stated I would be changing my gameplay. You asked me how I would change and I told you. Less advice more scum hunting. And what did I do I scum hunted. It was new information in the thread and whether you don't like my case or not. I said what I was going to do and did it.
Also in regards to my self consciousnesses I almost got mislynched day 1 last game. Don't you think I would look over my game and be kind of hesitant to just play the same. I was thinking about my actions and for good reason. I don't want to get mislynched again.
The only scum hunting I see from you is a refusal to let go of a bad tunnel on Koshi and a policy lynch on a lurker. What are your thoughts on Jonny? What are your thoughts on Oats and LoneMeow? Who else do you find scummy? Why aren't you pushing a Koshi lynch because 'he's not on the menu'? As I recall, last game people were mostly on LoneMeow right at the deadline, and a few people hopped off LM and onto you. The vote count was: LoneMeow (4): Koshi, suki, Balla, jay Jay (4): Hopeless, Alakaslam, Jonny, LoneMeow Koshi (1): cakeman And you decided to unvote LoneMeow and start a push on Koshi. At the very last minute. I realize that at the time you didn't know what the vote count was and you didn't realize that voting Koshi would get you lynched. However, the point is that even with Koshi not having many votes on him and mixed sentiments across the board about his alignment, you had no problem switching to your most preferred scum target. This game, there's still about 20 hours to the lynch and you're already like 'nope nothing I can do to convince people Koshi is scum guess I'll just vote slam'. I really want to hear some good analysis because right now all I see are excuses.
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jayb can push that all he wants, but his previous iterations were completely unbelievable imo, thats why I was (and kind of still am) so strung up on lynching him.
With his case on Slam it looks like something that should be pushed. It also feels cheap and easy but Slam hasnt yet posted enough to generate a case so jayb took what he could get and ran with it.
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After more irl and deciding I have to skim stuff I see a ploy of sorts. Jaybrundage did little but call out Suki and Balla early for trolling and stuff.
They have said that is all in the interest of fun which I can understand. I too am someone who enjoys trolling...
... And rolling scum. Look, if you read TL mafia LXIII you will see the context for a quote I am about to copy in here.
The point of this game is getting better, not more comfortable with trolling or believe me, there would be YouTube in my filter by now.
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On December 10 2013 16:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
I will say though that playing as scum last game you probably realize that Slam basically adds another scum to the game as either alignment. So I'm fine with lynching him regardless unless something very convincing goes down.
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On February 08 2014 12:09 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 11:47 Aquanim wrote:On February 08 2014 11:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
Because he obviously thinks sprang is town. Nowait. Fair enough. OK I'll talk to you then. What do you think of jayB's case above on Alak? How does it reflect on Alak and jayB to you? It certainly makes jayb look better. Scummy working his way back to null for alak due to general lurkiness.
You reckon? As cases go, I think his case on Alak is very sketchy.
I don't think it's unreasonable for Alak to be pointing out that jayB is not in fact going for a lurker policy lynch, like jayB said he might. It's not like Alak is calling for a jayB lynch based on that one point, he's just pointing it out. Furthermore, it's obvious that Alak was still reading through the thread at that point so jayB's observation that
If anything Alakaslam would be reading the thread and seeing if I was pushing my scum suspect and scum hunting.
doesn't convince me at all.
Also, I can't help but notice that (IIRC) every case jayB has made so far this game has been on somebody who attacked him first. Not 100% scum-indicative on its own, but certainly enough to raise my eyebrows.
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i hadnt noticed the omgus trend. that is interesting to note.
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On February 08 2014 02:24 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 02:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
okay jay, so most of yesterday was 'heat of the moment'. have you re-read or reconsidered your scumreads? Yea Balla is leaning town for me atm. I still think Koshi could be scum but everyone shitting on my push on him, means that the push wasn't not as good as I thought it was. So I won't be pushing him now and will try to get reads on other people.
On February 08 2014 11:06 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 10:22 Balla24 wrote:On February 08 2014 09:57 Aquanim wrote:
@JayB: So far as I can see, Jonny hasn't pushed any reads so far and I don't think he's trying to learn more about other players through his posts. Why do you think Alakaslam is a better lynch than him? To add to this: why does Koshi not "being on the menu" mean you don't want to lynch him? A few reasons. If people who i think are town don't think Koshi is scum then I can be mistaken and instead of tunneling him I should be trying to create other reads. If there is no support for a lynch then going after it relentlessly and tunneling on him is just detrimental to town.
Consider this a request for you to "continue tunneling' Koshi. LoneMeow and Jonny are unsure of Koshi's alignment, and LoneMeow is townie to you.
What things about Koshi's play recently make you think he's scummy?
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On February 08 2014 12:16 jaybrundage wrote:
Suki I gave my reasoning for not going after koshi.I also mentioned jonny before there is no new content from him. I think he could be scum tho. Oats, Lonemeow I think there more likely to be town. I think your a bit scummy. Your early posting with your dismissal of my case just because it was early. You trolling me with things that were simply untrue. You recent posting has been a better.
So right now you think Slam, Koshiand me are the most scummy (and in that order) and you'd be willing to lynch any three of us? No one else is looking scummy to you?
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On February 08 2014 12:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
i hadnt noticed the omgus trend. that is interesting to note.
The thought has crossed my mind though that straight-up paranoid OMGUS is something I've seen from townies in the past too just as much as scum.
It is indeed interesting and I intend to think about it some more.
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On February 08 2014 12:21 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 16:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
I will say though that playing as scum last game you probably realize that Slam basically adds another scum to the game as either alignment. So I'm fine with lynching him regardless unless something very convincing goes down.
Oh slam, I still love you.
That said get to work! *cracks whip*
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On February 08 2014 12:22 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 12:09 Hopeless1der wrote:On February 08 2014 11:47 Aquanim wrote:On February 08 2014 11:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
Because he obviously thinks sprang is town. Nowait. Fair enough. OK I'll talk to you then. What do you think of jayB's case above on Alak? How does it reflect on Alak and jayB to you? It certainly makes jayb look better. Scummy working his way back to null for alak due to general lurkiness. You reckon? As cases go, I think his case on Alak is very sketchy. I don't think it's unreasonable for Alak to be pointing out that jayB is not in fact going for a lurker policy lynch, like jayB said he might. It's not like Alak is calling for a jayB lynch based on that one point, he's just pointing it out. Furthermore, it's obvious that Alak was still reading through the thread at that point so jayB's observation that Show nested quote +If anything Alakaslam would be reading the thread and seeing if I was pushing my scum suspect and scum hunting. doesn't convince me at all. Also, I can't help but notice that (IIRC) every case jayB has made so far this game has been on somebody who attacked him first. Not 100% scum-indicative on its own, but certainly enough to raise my eyebrows.
I was actually unsure if Alakaslam had read the full thread. But in this quote he says he was going to try some filters. So I would assume he would be caught up to the thread. Or why would he be reading filters with out context?
Also the vast majority of people have called me scum in this game so far. So not much of an accomplishment.
On February 08 2014 10:03 Alakaslam wrote:
I have work folks. Yes I would be unhappy if I was lynched.
That being said @suki: you appear to have "gotten better" as has Balla24 but it just doesn't strike me as the best entrance. I may be biased through being tired and a time crunch.
I am kind of fighting a pregame bias that Jaybrundage is scum because last game I was CONVINCED he was scum and !what! He was almost made innocent child.
Going to try some filters now.
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On February 08 2014 12:30 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 12:22 Aquanim wrote:On February 08 2014 12:09 Hopeless1der wrote:On February 08 2014 11:47 Aquanim wrote:On February 08 2014 11:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
Because he obviously thinks sprang is town. Nowait. Fair enough. OK I'll talk to you then. What do you think of jayB's case above on Alak? How does it reflect on Alak and jayB to you? It certainly makes jayb look better. Scummy working his way back to null for alak due to general lurkiness. You reckon? As cases go, I think his case on Alak is very sketchy. I don't think it's unreasonable for Alak to be pointing out that jayB is not in fact going for a lurker policy lynch, like jayB said he might. It's not like Alak is calling for a jayB lynch based on that one point, he's just pointing it out. Furthermore, it's obvious that Alak was still reading through the thread at that point so jayB's observation that If anything Alakaslam would be reading the thread and seeing if I was pushing my scum suspect and scum hunting. doesn't convince me at all. Also, I can't help but notice that (IIRC) every case jayB has made so far this game has been on somebody who attacked him first. Not 100% scum-indicative on its own, but certainly enough to raise my eyebrows. I was actually unsure if Alakaslam had read the full thread. But in this quote he says he was going to try some filters. So I would assume he would be caught up to the thread. Or why would he be reading filters with out context? Also the vast majority of people have called me scum in this game so far. So not much of an accomplishment. Show nested quote +On February 08 2014 10:03 Alakaslam wrote:
I have work folks. Yes I would be unhappy if I was lynched.
That being said @suki: you appear to have "gotten better" as has Balla24 but it just doesn't strike me as the best entrance. I may be biased through being tired and a time crunch.
I am kind of fighting a pregame bias that Jaybrundage is scum because last game I was CONVINCED he was scum and !what! He was almost made innocent child.
Going to try some filters now.
Yeah OK let me rephrase that. Your only point against Alakaslam (re. lurker policy lynch), and one of your only two points against Koshi (re. "you feel off" or whatever it was) were directly related to them raising points against you.
There's plenty of material in the thread which isn't people talking about you, but your cases have mostly ignored that material.
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