EPT[S] Shadowed Mini Mafia: The Reboot - Page 12
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Now that it's Day 3, he has not explained what that claim was about. Nor do I think there is a good explanation. Also because Jay was claiming blue, scum should have killed him either N1 or N2. This didn't happen. Jay was scummy to me on Day 1, his Day 2 has been shown to be weak. He has no explanation or follow up for his blue claim. ##vote JayBrundage | ||
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Those were the days when I first got into BW >_< so nostalgic. | ||
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We will avenge your death with BLOOD, as our dignified european tradition dictates. | ||
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Are you parity cop or not? | ||
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Right now the fact that you're beating around the bush is extremely scummy to me. Want to explain why you're trying to confuse things? | ||
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Jay, are you claiming parity cop? Tell me, why did you choose to check Aqua out of all the people in the game? On February 10 2014 05:05 jaybrundage wrote: In response to + Show Spoiler + On February 10 2014 03:17 Balla24 wrote: There's a big problem here in that out of Jaybrundage/Suki, both had very similar non logical progressions on Jonny. Both wanted to see "more" from him, both saw him as scummy later in the day but didn't switch to him. I feel that Suki's progression makes more sense. She was pushing jaybrundage hard because she thought he was scum. Jay's doesn't really follow. It was clear that Jonny was going to get lynched, and he doesn't really share his opinions, he OMGUS vs suki and then his thread presence during the lynch was non-existent. There was no thoughts on the lynch DURING the lynch which I find really surprising for jay. He kind of accepted it and stuck on a useless suki vote, didn't try to push it on anybody else etc etc. He wasn't doing anything even though he should have been doing something, as though it was a lost cause. I really do feel like we have a scum within suki/jay though, so if we lynch within them we have 50% chance on either. Whereas out of the jonny voters I think we are getting more to a 25% chance or so to hit the scum. Although if I'm wrong about this. There's actually 2 scum in the jonny vote and therefore we have closer to a 50% chance of hitting scum in there. I can't decide whether I'd like to lynch within the jonny voters or within jay/suki. Yea I was a bit of a mess later on in day 1. I didn't feel convicted with jonny being scum. I had an early town read on him. I thought you and Koshi were scum and when jonny was agreeing with my thinking it made me think he was town. I was using the heuristic that people who think similarly to me were more likely to be the same alignment as me. However I was wrong with ya'll being scum and similarly with Jonny being town. So yea my reads were all pretty bad early day 1. I began to see jonny as nuller as the day went on. But I never felt that he was sure scum or anything. Then when I got too the thread in the near end of the day. I felt scared to contribute as I didn't want to attract unwanted attention by saying the wrong thing and getting mislynched. I had had a pretty shitty day 1 so I was being pretty cautious. This is a bit of a scummy mind set but I didn't really have much conviction on jonny. I was still pretty null on him. I felt going to the thread and waffling would look bad. So in the end when I commented I didn't mention him at all. As I had nothing of use to add. Instead I commented on other people of interest. I could of moved my vote to jonny. But it felt like it was an empty action. What would be the point of it. He was getting lynched and I had nothing to add or much of opinion that was worth voicing. Alot of this hesitancy stemmed from my bad day 1 and at that point in the game. I was fine with my strong town reads: Balla, Aqua having the reins to the lynch wagon. My biggest concern after my botched start was not to get mislynched tho as opposed to trying to lead a lynch. I tried with who I thought was scum at the beginning. But after that went badly I just wanted to make sure town didn't get a mislynch on me. So that should explain my end of the day play I believe. If you have any questions feel free to ask. I might not be back respond till after the night is over tho. Why are you checking Aqua out of all people, when Hopeless was up for discussion N2? Or even LoneMeow? Or Coag? Why not me, who everyone is on the fence about because everyone is saying I have such a good scum game? Please, explain how Aqua makes any sense? Because I can explain how it makes sense from a scum perspective. You don't want to give anyone a free ticket that would be used against you in LYLO. So you pick the towniest person left and hope it somehow flies. | ||
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On February 13 2014 08:08 jaybrundage wrote: Well lets say I was blue hypothetically I would probably be Parity Cop hypothetically. And I would hypothetically check Koshi day 1 for a control check hypothetically. And then would check Aquanim hypothetically. To see if he was scum hypothetically. But he would come up the SAME hypothetically. So he could be town hypothetically or godfather hypothetically. However if I'm the only blue hypothetically. Then they might not have any mafia role hypothetically. So If I was blue hypothetically that would be what might of happened hypothetically. KOSHI was SCUM to you in Day 1. You made a huge case on him, and then when I kept pressuring you, you came off it with this: On February 08 2014 14:18 jaybrundage wrote: I just looked at Koshi's filter since the last time I said I wasn't gonna tunnel him. I'm null on him atm. Did it just for you Suki. Now go away. He's NULL to you. How is this in ANY WAY a control check? This is a pure contradiction. You're done Jay. GG SCUM. | ||
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On February 13 2014 08:34 jaybrundage wrote: Jonny slipped on Koshi being town. Suki your taking outdated reads to make a case. Ah. That makes sense to me. Hmmmmmmm. I also missed your post here: On February 12 2014 07:13 jaybrundage wrote: The five bolded were the people that were needed to lynch Sidesprang. The underlined were people that were extra and were not needed and the people on the Coag vote were obviously not on the scum lynch. If we rule out a bus from Coagulation. So with this being said I think its likely that Aquanim or Hopeless1der are the scum suspects. I would be in this list too. But i knows I'm town. Where you did state Aqua was scum suspect.. even though I did a ctrl-f through your filter. Hmmm... | ||
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On February 13 2014 08:45 jaybrundage wrote: Yes gosh you take out the fun of all these things People's LIVES are on the line!! What is this, a GAME to you? + Show Spoiler + lol | ||
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Do you have anything to add to it? | ||
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On February 13 2014 02:52 Hopeless1der wrote: Balla: Obvious town. Major push on Jonny Day1, constant pressure on the thread in general. I don’t see this as scum-scum interaction. It is too ballsy to draw attention to a teammate when you can alert them via qt to get back in the thread asap. Despite general apathy, balla continues to play right to the end of Day2 and actively seeks out more scum, ultimately securing a 2nd scum lynch with the help of Oats defending coag and generally beating the thread into submission. I also like his vote-count analysis posts, especially because he isn’t hiding behind them as activity, he’s using them to springboard his broader ideas about the game and then focus in based on his conclusions. Aquanim: Was accused of defending Jonny day1 by Balla. Technically true, but I see aqua go on to pressure Jonny and subsequently find him to be scummy. He was initially on jayb, but then again most of the thread was at first. I don’t find anything scummy in the way that Day1 played out for aqua. Once he’s committed to his vote on Jonny he spends most of his time pushing Jonny’s lynch either by defending alternative candidates or trying to draw people to looking at Jonny’s scummy ways. sidenote+ Show Spoiler + On February 08 2014 18:07 Aquanim wrote: Is what you're trying to say here that you don't want to push jayB because you were wrong about him in a previous game? I don't understand. Coag: Counter-wagon to sprang, was in all likelihood going to die and ended up being saved by Oats. Since they can’t be scum together, the simple answer is that coag was the scum mislynch for the day. LoneMeow This is more associative with flipped scum than with LM’s play, but Jonny had LoneMeow as scum for shifty reasons and LM was eager to point them out and pressure Jonny concerning why he was able to ignore LM’s filter yet call him scum for lurking. Also the VCA from the Day2 lynch is quite appealing for a town-LoneMeow. jaybrundage Day1 sucked, Day2 was fantastic. Actually pushed sprang most of the day as a policy lynch (and called it as much) while trying to get coag to play. He later admits that he never really wanted to lynch sprang, just scare him a bit and then ends up voting him (three times lol) at the end of the day. I don’t see scum admitting they weren’t going to follow through on a policy lynch and then going through with it anyways. Oatsmaster Besides my initial read of Oats, he hard defended coag and lead the charge on sidesprang. If you don’t already think Oats is town, I’m not going to convince you. Suki Day1 case is in my filter. Day2 she pushed coag all day and then meekly said Her filter is about 2/3 Day/Night 1 and 1/3 Day/Night 2 (I know Night2 isnt over yet, but the disparity is there) Based on general activity and the sudden and unexpected switch to sprang she's definitely my top choice for scum. Suki was once again seen defending the scum-lynch by saying they are contributing and deserve another day to prove themselves I noticed that I'm the only person on the list labelled scum. I'm telling now I'm not scum. Who would be your next choice and why? | ||
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Hopeless' play has been much different. Also the fact that he's given himself no outs is really .. kamikaze as scum? I don't know.. ##unvote ##vote LoneMeow I made a case against LoneMeow during N2. I want more people to look at it and consider LoneMeow being scum. The summary from the case: 1. He comes into the game really late. 2. He starts off the game with only Jonny being scummy to him, yet doesn't further analyze Jonny throughout the day or try to convince people Jonny's scummy. 3. He is fifth to vote Jonny. 4. He soft defended sidesprang and was reluctant to vote him. 5. Basically he did nothing this game that really furthered the lynches on the two flipped scum. I'd like to hear opinions on LoneMeow in addition to the commentary that's obviously going to happen about Jay and Hopeless. | ||
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