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Alright, in terms of the game. Same question Oats asked except, who are your three partners? | ||
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Town meta: I'm useful eventually Scum meta: Bus the homies Bad in general. As town I don't care enough to rage. I will in fact shut down the thread with my rage as scum. | ||
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On February 08 2014 15:15 yamato77 wrote: In case it isn't clear, I'm being sarcastic. I'm more leaning towards Alaka/Cora being scum mates. | ||
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I disagree here on your point that wos is putting in too much earlier on you/VE. Before you made this post I was going to come into thread and ask if we could lynch you or VE. WoS having similar reads to me and saying them in thread doesn't man he's trying hard. It just means I'm more likely to be right. | ||
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On February 09 2014 04:46 WaveofShadow wrote: And yeah this too. First of all I don't make pre-flip association cases, ESPECIALLY after Shadow game. My asking about Cora/VE interaction was simply to extend 'feelers' because the interaction looked fishy to me in some way and I wanted to know what other people thought. And it's never too much effort for scum to do anything, really---what I did in no way required a lot of effort anyway and I'm not sure why what I did is town-indicative. It just looks like you're looking for reasons to differentiate me/rayn from yamato in that post. Risen can I ask you the question you were about to ask? Would you lynch Cora or VE? If so, which one and why? It's weird, I find Cora more scummy but want to lynch VE for some reason. I feel like his lynch would answer questions I have about his interaction in the thread more than Cora's. I think that's paranoia getting to me, though, so I say we lynch Cora | ||
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On February 09 2014 05:55 Palmar wrote: I'm about half way through the game. While I'm reading and since a few people seem to be around, I'd like to ask anyone that thinks he's posted well enough for him to think that others should have a strong townread on him, to step up and claim it. ie: if you think you're obvious town, please say you are obvious town. And please don't troll this questions, only say you are if you genuinely think your posting so far in the game should allow for an easy townread on you. I think I'm a good town read for people. | ||
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On February 09 2014 06:03 geript wrote: I'm obv town. Why? On February 09 2014 05:59 geript wrote: Getting my daily in. Brb. Short reason, at first it was a troll vote, but oats is looking scummy to me now. His gore... Meaningless This post is decidedly null. ##vote: Corazon Should throw this in now since plurality. | ||
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On February 09 2014 06:48 geript wrote: No this is blatantly false and Palmar's fucking scum for trying to push me like this. Everyone who's ever played with me should know like the simplest way to read me is by filter length. Marv explained it in LoL. It's been true every time. I fucking struggle like hell to post as scum. Palmar even fucking knows this; he played LXI or whatever one I was confrimed town in and my activity was shit for most of the game. Not only this, but Palmar is trying to skew my actions on Oats. Oats is generally pretty easy to read based on how much of a dick he's being in combination with his activity. As town, Oats is far more willing to get into shitfests at any moment and is far more active than he is as scum. Just like in LoL he wasn't a dick early, despite being given the option to get into a shitfest he's just avoided it. So yah, PALMAR IS SCUMB!!!!!!!!! Palmar is scum with Oats and is using his name to protect him just like Rayn does. Might listen to you if you didn't include things like this in your posting. Why are you lying about what Palmar is doing? | ||
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On February 09 2014 07:11 Koshi wrote: Wave, I am not even reading this thread but killing people who wants to kill me is working out for me lately. Like really really good. This statement works as either alignment. | ||
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On February 09 2014 08:05 marvellosity wrote: See Vengeful, there's plenty of real rage on Day 1, believe me. I don't really see why geript is mafia right now What do you see that could potentially make anyone rage in this game? That's why it's forced. I'm not saying he's mafia for it, I'm just calling him on it. On February 09 2014 08:07 marvellosity wrote: Is anyone reading Oats as town? If so, why? Who ever reads him as anything? Everyone just accepts that he's going to do what he's going to do regardless of alignment. Verdict: don't talk about him and just ignore him until LYLO or something. On February 09 2014 08:10 marvellosity wrote: Also Koshi, talk to me about your VA read properly please. Because I may have been thinking similar things but I want to know if my similar things are actually your similar things or not. I'm confused by this. What has VA actually done this game? My problem with his play thus far stems from this: On February 08 2014 11:29 VayneAuthority wrote: lol well the player list is absolutely brutal in that respect so no comment there. I'm hoping the mafia fuck up and give us info on the setup lynches instead of using it to their advantage Why say that out loud? | ||
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On February 09 2014 09:09 Palmar wrote: Wanna buddy up WoS and Risen? Sure why not. I don't have the best feelings about WoS just because he tried to buddy me, though. So that's probably paranoia. I'm working on it. | ||
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On February 09 2014 14:57 Oatsmaster wrote: I would lynch cora and rayn right now. Marv getting into stupid shitfests probably means he is town. How come nobody thinks im scum??? Because you're impossible to read so why waste time even thinking admit you In other news I'm out drinking tonight guys | ||
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On February 10 2014 05:03 Koshi wrote: I am here. Also wasn't really fake fake rage. Only a bit. I was annoyed. Why do you feel the need to justify your posting? Scummy. | ||
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On February 10 2014 04:46 yamato77 wrote: Secondarily, lynching in the pool of VA/Risen/Grack wouldn't hurt either, but I'd rather just nip this Cora thing in the bud. Any reason I've been grouped with them? (Activity? Reasoning behind my reads lacking? Something else?) | ||
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On February 10 2014 05:10 yamato77 wrote: VE: Active early, gives reads and stuff. Has since just sheeped wagons and interacted little. His wordiest post is a "I'll sheep wave and lynch Koshi" post. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I'm confused as to why you find me an acceptable lynch after voting my lynch vote and finding my secondary lynch target scummy. | ||
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On February 10 2014 05:27 yamato77 wrote: I have yet to understand why you have any of the reads you have this game. Fair enough. | ||
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On February 10 2014 05:55 Palmar wrote: ok I'm back. My reading of the last few pages has been a bit sketchy, but whatever. I don't think I want to lynch Kosher. Other people I don't want to lynch include WoS, Oats, myself, Risen etc. I worry about the Cora wagon. I pointed out some inconsistency in his play myself, but his random vote on me there before he switched is really head scratching if he's mafia. Now his is obviously not going to make much sense to anyone but myself, but given how he's been wanting to kill me and been casually calling me out all game, it seems like a strange vote as it makes it more likely he'll flip AND if he flips mafia he's basically confirming me as town. So knowing my own alignment, his move just doesn't make any sense if he's mafia. I'd much rather lynch somewhere into geript, marv, VE, rayn, or even holyfare. I'm unsure about yamato... I disagree. I think his vote on you would have been perfectly timed to get you lynched if more people had gotten on the hate train. It points to me that he isn't committed to his voting and is instead just trying to find some way to have thread presence. You also got ninja'd by a "solid" post from HF that really doesn't say much to me. It's a nice amount of effort, but it's all stuff that could be found and pointed out by someone looking to make a case on the person who's leading in votes at the moment. I would be down to lynch marv if I was feeling like a troll, but I'm not. I will say there has been very little in my mafia career that was more satisfying than fingering marv as total scum for no reason since I was getting lynched, and having him flip scum (after I flipped town and everyone just said omg Risen hydra'd with marv he must know something). God that was so long ago. | ||
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On February 10 2014 07:11 geript wrote: Because scum usually don't D1 bus their partners. I'm about to head to clinical zoo though. lol | ||
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On February 10 2014 07:38 Corazon wrote: Does this look like a rage post? Stop trying to cover this up. part 1 of that post is wrong part 2 might have weight | ||
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On top of this, if WoS/Palmar are scum I'm screwed since I've given them hall passes on buddying me in an attempt to not be uber paranoid. Something that hurts: Rayn the Relentless hasn't said as many nice things about me as usual this game :/ <3 | ||
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On February 11 2014 04:05 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay I read Grack. I still have no idea what I think of his alignment. He does things like claims scum and talk to people like they're his scumbuddies, and I THINK that speaks of a townGrack? But like I said before, I've had a zero percent correct read rate on Grack so I honestly have no idea. Palmar's stance on Cora is fishy because he literally says "I would lynch again knowing he's town". Like, saying something like that makes me think he knew he was town BEFORE the lynch - and he SHOULD HAVE known because of the ease of the wagon. So whether he's scum and knows that Cora is town when he votes for him or he's town and knows that Cora is town when he votes for him, I don't like it either way. So forced. | ||
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On February 11 2014 04:13 Koshi wrote: That it is a long stretch. | ||
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On February 11 2014 04:11 VisceraEyes wrote: What do you mean Risen? On February 11 2014 04:13 Koshi wrote: That it is a long stretch. | ||
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What's scummy about saying that? I'm saying it's a stretch to call that scummy. Looks like you're grasping for something that isn't there. Looks like you're trying to be in the thread without doing anything. | ||
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On February 11 2014 05:57 WaveofShadow wrote: Are you referring to me? Out with it. You've mentioned fake rage a shit ton in this game and while I agreed with you when applied to Koshi I'd like to see some actual supporting content now because shitting on people from the sidelines is not helpful and grack-y. Geript rage, fake or real? My rage, fake or real? Koshi rage, fake or real? Why or why not? Geript - Fake. Why rage? Super fake. You - Fake. Why rage? Has anyone actually done anything to misrepresent you entirely and the thread went along with it? Koshi - Self-admitted fake. I'm known for raging, but at least I only ever raged when the entire thread was going against me not at a single person or idea. It's absurd and toxic. Also fake. Can't tell if people are trying to play to metas or just feel like raging so they have an excuse to leave thread for a bit. | ||
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On February 11 2014 06:18 Koshi wrote: It was to not get lynched. Which just reinforces the point I was making. | ||
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Was a joke about how nonsensical night kills mean Risen's mafia lol | ||
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On February 11 2014 08:47 marvellosity wrote: I don't get it Risen but I'll take your word for it :p Just reading the VE stuff, VE never thinks that "normally" for people calling what he was saying a "stretch". Town-VE had an exceptionally convoluted triple-bus theory for quite some time in Shadow. Was he right? | ||
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On February 11 2014 09:03 marvellosity wrote: By the way, Wave, I haven't intentionally antagonised you at all, I've called you out on what I think is bullshit just like I do in every single game we play together. Indeed one reason you were suspicious of me in Shadow is because i hadn't customarily slapped you down... More evidence for the fake rage disease arises. | ||
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On February 11 2014 09:03 Holyflare wrote: Well yeh, wave is an independant player from what I saw in shadow + vengeful + other games and doesn't listen to anyone regarding things he thinks are right like that + anger, +hypocritical actions +vote attitude Independent is fine. I'm wrong a lot and don't really learn from anything so I can dig it. But if you're going to play like that why are you getting mad at people saying mean things about you instead of getting mad when people ignore you? There's a disconnect and I think it's really telling. | ||
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On February 11 2014 09:04 marvellosity wrote: Risen why don't you want to kill me? It kinda makes me sad. Because even though it was amazing when I luckshot you, it was something that made me feel incredibly dirty. I could go for the luckshot again, but I'm actually trying to improve my play. Also, if I was scum this game I'd be trying my best to make sure it was the greatest players alive at the end of days. That last statement actually supports me being scum lol | ||
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I have a really hard time explaining any reads I ever have since I generally forget about why I had them in the first place. | ||
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On February 11 2014 09:07 WaveofShadow wrote: I AM FUCKING MAD THAT PEOPLE HAVE IGNORED ME ALL GAME ABOUT KOSHI WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK Is this true? Hmm... yeah probably. I can't even remember anything about Koshi so this statement certainly rings true for me. | ||
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On February 11 2014 09:12 Koshi wrote: I think WoS is town, sometimes he has good reads and people don't listen. Now he is all frustrated because he mistakenly thinks people don't listen but in reality people listened but don't agree. Probably town WoS mentality. So... you're saying WoS is right about you. Hey man, I'm all for meta bus tactix but this is taking it too far! | ||
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On February 11 2014 09:15 Palmar wrote: Unless he's faking this wish for attention, love and care, in which case he's playing not badly. No idea why he would want it so badly as scum. Uhhh, you realize we're playing FOR A FREAKING CROWN?!? | ||
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On February 11 2014 09:17 Palmar wrote: btw, I'm towntelling so hard by staying up to see who gets nominated. I'd already know if I was scum. Next level scum tactix | ||
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You're so cute... but so am I man. I've given up on ever getting a crown as town lol | ||
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On February 11 2014 09:12 Koshi wrote: I think WoS is town, sometimes he has good reads and people don't listen. Now he is all frustrated because he mistakenly thinks people don't listen but in reality people listened but don't agree. Probably town WoS mentality. On February 11 2014 09:12 Koshi wrote: I think WoS is town, ...he has good reads and people don't listen. Now he is all frustrated... ...town WoS... Am I missing something here? | ||
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On February 11 2014 09:21 Palmar wrote: I aint getting it, I fucked up badly on day 1 by allowing other people to have opinions and talk. My bad guys. Well, at least you understand now and can change how you're playing this game. The belt really should be going to one of WoS, HF, Palmar, Marv imoimo Rayn clear scum because he hasn't expressed undying love for me over and over. </3 | ||
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On February 11 2014 12:05 Grackaroni wrote: like why am I waiting for the nominations? Because I want to see the nominations? ?.? | ||
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VA is clearly a troll so unworthy of the crown. I'd lynch him, but I'd rather lynch VE or something. The amount of circlejerk in this thread is making me paranoid. | ||
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On February 12 2014 00:57 marvellosity wrote: This is just fucking awful, because it basically means you haven't bothered to read and appreciate the argument I made regarding VA. I read it boss. You have a problem with the contradiction, I don't. I've changed my entire thought process between posts as town before and contradicted myself so I don't look at it as damning in other people unless they're making some sort of argument | ||
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On February 12 2014 00:58 marvellosity wrote: Also explain this rather than just stating bullshit. The first nomination in the last game was triple town as well. What of it? I just mean in every other game I've played I'm always trying to lynch the person I think is scum. Here I have three town reads so the only thing left is to be paranoid and try to run through "who is trying to trick me" mode. It's not good for me. | ||
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On February 12 2014 01:00 marvellosity wrote: No, the point is he's holding totally conflicting thought processes *within the same posts* That's not changing your mind or your thought process, that's thinking A and B simultaneously when they're mutually exclusive Uhh... brb. | ||
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On February 12 2014 01:02 marvellosity wrote: Risen didn't have a Palmar-point beyond "paranoia for no reason" This is correct. | ||
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On February 11 2014 10:39 VayneAuthority wrote: I don't think there is any reason to do this line-up as mafia unless there is 1 mafia of the 3 so it is an important lynch imo. Would they risk killing off 1 at the cost of 2 unlynchable strong players? doubtful Expresses his thought that there's one mafia. On February 11 2014 10:53 VayneAuthority wrote: something sloppier. like marv/grack/wave now that would be a good nomination and be something i would do. this nomination is garbage and I would never do that if im mafia pretty much clears me. You ask him what three he'd expect from an all town lynch. He doesn't say he thinks it's an all town lynch right now. What am I missing? | ||
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On February 11 2014 18:32 Palmar wrote: This conversation is making Kosher look pretty good btw, I like his train of thought. This is what's making me paranoid about palmar btw. I get it, I'm not going to lynch koshi, but at the time of reading this koshi was looking pretty bad to me and this felt like Palmar forcing a narrative. | ||
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On February 12 2014 01:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you think geript made a purposely shitty case on his scumbuddy Grack on D1? Or do you think he thought his case would be good and he did it in fear that Grack could be lynched (knowing he is mafia)? Both seem unlike to me. Option two doesn't seem so far fetched given... stuff. | ||
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##vote: VisceraEyes Reasoning On February 12 2014 08:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Lol at all the nominees voting for themselves. Yeah fuck this game...if the people who scum want dead don't even want to pay then I can't be bothered either. Gg scum. On February 12 2014 10:22 Keirathi wrote: Herro friends! I have a lot more to read than I expected. I'll catch up and get some thoughts out asap. What? Let's just save him the trouble and lynch him :D | ||
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On February 13 2014 05:46 marvellosity wrote: can anyone tell me how these posts even come close to going together? Well, VA is in the lead, I'm down for stopping any potential last second shenans since I've been asked to consolidate. So I did. | ||
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On February 13 2014 05:44 marvellosity wrote: meh. I could lynch not-VA I guess. Maybe one of Holy/Keirathi. I'd like Palmar to come say things, I'm kinda busy this evening. 24 hour lynch days top tier | ||
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On February 13 2014 05:56 WaveofShadow wrote: Were you kicked out right at the start? I couldn't remember when it was, but I suppose that is true then. Yamato where is your vote right now? Marv what are you thinking with this? This actually makes me realize it's time for a reevaluation of Risen. I've had him as a townread since the start but its been s long I can't actually be sure if it still makes sense considering all i remember from Risen recently is complaining about fake rage and my 'buddying.' Yamato and risen filter time. When you get to the part in my filter where I say stop buddying me or whatever then immediately after say just joking don't rage plz or something will you stop harping on me targeting you over "buddying" kthx | ||
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On February 13 2014 06:27 VayneAuthority wrote: that is a fake heuristic people have made up lol, I rarely get lynched but honestly it isn't that big of a deal. of all the games I have played I have been lynched as town once and mafia zero. LET'S MAKE IT ONE AND ONE BABY! | ||
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On February 13 2014 06:30 marvellosity wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Holyflare how about it Palmar? Won't you take me to Sheepytown! Won't you take me to Sheepytown! Won't you take me to Sheepytown! Won't you take me to SHEEEEEPYTOWN ##unvote ##vote: Holyflare But where does this wanting to lynch HF come from Risen? It's nowhere in your filter? My genius and clever trap has worked~Marv NOT GIVIN A FUUUUUCK~Risen But you just said you wanted to stop last second shenans, Risen!!!~Marv + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://media2.giphy.com/media/1106O5br2MwOSA/giphy.gif) | ||
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On February 13 2014 06:32 marvellosity wrote: your play as a whole feels very shit-flingy. I was told this was because Wave's voice play was very different from his forum play. | ||
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On February 13 2014 06:37 marvellosity wrote: Dunno, just feels off. Can't really justify lynching him today but if i could flip somone for free i'd do it Are you serious about the HF train we just started. Together. Forever. | ||
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Trying to fake a townslip obv. I'm being serious. | ||
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On February 13 2014 07:07 VayneAuthority wrote: what are the chances of palmar being mafia? that is the one thing stopping me from finishing this game. Honestly this is why I wanted him lynched. No one would listen to me, though. | ||
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On February 13 2014 08:30 marvellosity wrote: let's lynch va and worry about it tomorrow Sheepmode off :< | ||
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In the meantime I still want to lynch palmar but feel like I have to take the risk that he's town (which I'm already 80% on) or else activity in this game just dies and we definitely lose. Going off that, I'll be lynching Koshi as I agree with oats that of grack and koshi koshi helps solve the game more with his flip ##vote: Koshi I do think it's triple town nomination again, though. I can very easily see scum winning without losing a single member after this lynch so I'd 100% nominate palmar for the "scum wouldn't nominate their own guy twice" wifom paranoia bomb, grack who has had thread sentiment against him before so isn't nearly a good town read, and the same deal with koshi. None of these three are able to be confirmed town, and yet I feel that in order to have a chance this game all three must be considered as such (at least until we hopefully get extremely lucky and hit scum with non nomination lynches three times in a row but probably even still then) This leaves holyflare, ve, yamato, keirathi, waveofshadow. I think the safest lynch tomorrow is keirathi. | ||
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On February 16 2014 04:35 Holyflare wrote: vvvvvvveeeeeeeeee, check out risens filter for me! specifically the va lynch bit which is like 3/4 down his page and explain to me risen's thought process Is it that you don't have any idea what my thought process is? Then why not ask me? Is it that you have thoughts on it but wasn't too potentially sheep ve? Why not voice your own opinion on it when asking for another person's. This feels very carefully worded to me. Back to afk land, but I am interested in what ve's answer will be. | ||
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Holyflare is the clear next lynch. | ||
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Also, I do look town Oats. I'm pretty blatantly town. Anyways, holyflare should be the lynch. Sheep marv, win game. | ||
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On February 16 2014 19:34 Palmar wrote: Why do you care about the game now that we're lynching mafia? The implication. | ||
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On February 17 2014 02:51 Grackaroni wrote: You can't keep twisting things. Sure he can. | ||
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On February 17 2014 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol risen you really think you look town? Is that why everyone wants you to die? Everyone? | ||
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Other "faction" appears to be Grack and I, maybe Palmar going for HF. That will leave someone? Maybe wave? Is my math right? There's going to be 7 alive in two days right? If I'm scum I'm putting up Palmar, Grack, Oats/Wave/Yamato. The third person gets lynched. Anyone disagree with where we stand right now? | ||
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On February 17 2014 07:25 Palmar wrote: I think I'm lynching Risen for effort alone tomorrow. I don't care about winning or losing, it's about sending a message. It's a win/win! You get to send your message and my town meta stays intact. | ||
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Wave, HF, yamato, oats. I think hf and wave are the definite scum here. Then oats over yamato. That one's up in the air. I lean oats. Today let's say we lynch town and they aren't being sneaky. That makes it 4 town 3 scum remaining. Still lylo because of nomination. So we lynch wave as he's the one I think we can all agree on. Hf if you're town you need to realize grack thinks you're scum (I think?) and won't support my lynch. Everyone can support a wave lynch. Assume we hit scum, 4-2. Nomination makes it 3-2. I was hoping we'd reach a point where we could leave lylo and lynch me but I don't think it's possible without scum getting greedy. Assuming nominations are town, whichever one of you four is town is able to solve the game here if you come to the conclusion that I'm town. Seems like a stretch. I wish we hadn't lynched va :/ I don't know what to do. I wish those who were town would look back at the opinions of those who are dead. Lynch wave, lynch holy. Ve being town really wrecks what I thought was going on. (Omg he knows ve is town! No... I'm assuming) | ||
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What do you think palmar? Ve? Grack? If you assume I'm town, what do we do? Because for me I can't decide who's scum between oats and yamato. I lean oats because yamato feels like his interaction with hf isn't what I view as what's what. Hf I honestly don't think there's anything you can do to make me think you're town. You look too different from your town self. You seem so obviously scum to me I don't know why the others aren't in agreement. I forgot wave was in this game so he's auto scum for me. Very nearly forgot oats was in the game, final scum. Also lynched people's thoughts. | ||
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5 3 4 3 (wave) 4 2 3 2 (Holyflare. If me game ends. If yamato game is probably over since my top scum read is ok with either of us getting lynched) 3 1 2 1 (oats or yamato whichever didn't get nomination lynched) Hmm... does scum make it so obvious who the last lynch should be by never putting themselves up for nomination lynch? I think they have to go for town messing up a single time. If they put anyone not ve in there that person is instantly lynched. | ||
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##vote: palmar Also, I'm very clearly town. If I'm scum I don't do anything controversial, I just push a single person with my teammates. Note how no one outside the nomination circle has supported me? | ||
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Oh oh oh ok. If I'm ever in the nomination circle we just instantly lynch me, right? But don't lynch me when I'm outside it. This solves the game from my pov, right? Don't lynch the two I'm unsure of. So from my pov This nomination Wave Nomination (lynch the new person) Holy Nomination (lynch the new person) At this point there's three people and whoever is alive of palmar/ve/grack just lynched the third person. Am I missing something there? | ||
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Lynch the new nomination every time, lynch the two people town agrees on, win. That's it, right? We can all agree on wave, I think that's easy. That gives three cycles to decide who the second should be. I think it should be holy. Nomination circle, do you agree with my plan and who do you think our second should be (do you disagree who the first should be) | ||
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On February 17 2014 12:19 Holyflare wrote: You've said what we've been saying for days but only now when it looks like scum are going to lose after a perfect game start where you could afk. Whatever we decide it has to be unanimous and if you are town and can't look past me "not being town" despite me giving you every opportunity to show us your alignment then it doesn't matter what we do because that is a lost game. Stop talking about "sheeping the dead" , they have even less information than we have now and were obviously wrong for many lynches and don't even mention the things you mention. I'll look at wave again because he was my initial read though, whatever we decide it has to be unanimous either way. Well if you're not number two you really need to find a way to convince me one of yamato/oats is scum. I had bad feelings about yamato earlier in the game but can't remember why. | ||
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There's always the chance grack is scum, though. So a showdown between you two is just fine. I think all three are town from a strategy standpoint, though. So this lynch should be whoever gives us the best chance | ||
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On February 17 2014 13:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Like you keep saying "everyone has to vote together" and "it just takes one wrong townie to lose it for us" but you keep not doing shit to help us figure out if YOU are town or scum. Like, do you see where the breakdown is? Do you see why at least I find your self-defeatist attitude disingenuous in light of this? I get it man, and I'm sorry, but I'm on phone only for a week somewhere that looks like Hoth. | ||
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On February 17 2014 13:29 Grackaroni wrote: And I definitely think the recent interactions between HF and Risen have seemed very strange. They are both really strongly against one another (for no real explainable reasons since there are a lot of really scummy looking people) in a game where scum might be feeling a stronger need to bus in order to gain enough town-cred to win. I get the sentiment, but even I'm not bussing here when if wave flips scum we would autolose happens. | ||
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Game is solved as long as no one in the nomination circle is scum. See hf? You might be town and tomato might be scum. Oats just did you a real solid and this should be a plan you can get behind. | ||
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On February 17 2014 23:37 Palmar wrote: You had no influence in town and you were fine with it. If you think I'm scum I'm by definition not being thick-headed and ignorant, as that would mean I'd know I was being wrong. I think I'm being right. Do you agree with Holyflare that Grack is scum VE? Ye old shenans switcherooski | ||
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On February 17 2014 23:40 Palmar wrote: If you're both town, we're better off with you alive. Lol. That five forty tho On February 17 2014 23:40 Holyflare wrote: well I think VE is town and grack is scum, dilemna... maybe you should read grack right about now and maybe you should have done it days ago when I was talking about it and all you did was troll me and try and lynch me off then too, that would be a start if you want to "win the game" I want grack lynched so people will listen to him about hf if he's town. I support this. | ||
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On February 17 2014 23:45 VisceraEyes wrote: PALMAR DIES TODAY. NO ONE VOTES ANYONE BUT PALMAR OR CLAIMS FUCKING SCUM. Why are you trying so hard to save HF? Saying things like this makes me not want us to meet each other. You think palmar has a higher chance of being scum than yamato, oats, or I? Because that's what this is. The game is solved. Lynch wave, lynch holy if grack is town me if he's scum, lynch the new nomination every time. End of discussion. | ||
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On February 17 2014 23:46 Holyflare wrote: no......................? that would be a lost game in that case If you're town and grack flips town the game is already over because then conf town grack wants you dead and alive risen wants you dead, which means a townie is going to have a wasted vote. Assuming ve and palmar are town, which I feel safe assuming, the game is solved. Lynch grack, listen to his reads, the end. | ||
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Wtf palmar? You'd waste the fucking lylo lynch on someone you could safely lynch in the next nomination cycle? Are you dense? | ||
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Gg scum back to snow land | ||
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Hf looks very different from town hf and he's targeting me, someone who has been very clearly town all game (note how wrong I've been about my reads. Scum risen buses teammates, town risen gets good endgame when there's literally no other options for who scum is). I think he avoided calling me a town read on purpose because he's seen the backlash that can have Oats is oats. He's scummy as either alignment. He does it on purpose so he can never be lynched. Strongly considering policy lynching day 1 every game now. Yamato is very weird. He's had me as a scum read a lot this game while simultaneously expressing similar views to me and I think he's voted identical to me as well. That bugs the shit out of me. There's other stuff I can't remember. 2/3 are scum. Whichever is nominated for the next nomination lynch will be the town of the two, so I guess I don't care who we lynch next day as long as it's not me. And if somehow they nominate me then lynch hf. Literally I'm not asking not to be lynched eventually, I'll be nominated in two nomination cycles. Lynch me then. I just have to be lynched as a nomination or we lose (that's obvious, though) Game is solved. | ||
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On February 18 2014 03:07 Palmar wrote: Why can't we do that tomorrow? We don't know who gets nominated, we don't know how the game is going to flow. Because one of the nominations is going to die. I'd like all of you to discuss it since I'm assuming all of you are town. And the game is solved. Those alive in three lynched either believe I'm more likely to be scum than the two of hf/yam/oats or they believe I'm town and it doesn't matter who we lynch so long as it's not me. Town has a 66% chance of winning as long as the two survivors of this nomination lynch are town. | ||
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Either way, yeah I know I suck at town. There's a reason I don't get shot unless I'm blue | ||
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On February 18 2014 09:39 Palmar wrote: VE is from now on confirmed town. I don't care if he could be scum, if that's the case, someone else fucked up. Isn't that what always had to be the case starting from the last nominations? | ||
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Beyond your twisting and other nonsense this game, if you were town you'd realize any town player must stack his vote in an attempt to keep scum shenans from happening at deadline. This is why I wanted everything hammered out YESTERDAY. | ||
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On February 19 2014 04:19 Holyflare wrote: Despite you clearly implicating he must be town by poe previously This statement is such blatant bs it clearly shows hf willing to lie in order to confuse people. LYNCH HIM YOU FUCKING IDIOTS GRACKARONI IS ROLLING IN HIS GRAVE. How in the literal fuck is he not the lynch today after CONFIRMED TOWN GRACK SHOUTED LYNCH HOLY WITH HIS DYING BREATH. I come back expecting a wave lynch and everyone is on yamato? Ok don't stick to the plan, but at least get your sit together enough to get on holy. I'll swap back to wave right before deadline if I must, but holy is scum. Everyone should be voting him. If you're not voting him you're scum or so full of yourself you can't just LISTEN to confirmed town opinions. I'M TOWN AS FUCK I HAVEN'T BUSSED A SINGLE PERSON THIS GAME LISTEN TO ME AND GRACK | ||
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I desperately hope you're town Oats so I have an excuse in future games to policy lynch you day 1 as scum or town. It will literally make all my day 1s easy as pie. Why is risen voting oats? Because policy. Not alignment indicative at all. Boom. And fuck you guys for even thinking scum would do shit like this when the game was locked down. | ||
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##vote: risen Playing against win con, I concede for town. I'll take the one game ban. | ||
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##unvote ##vote: holyflare Afk. | ||
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Funny thing is, if we had followed my plan we would have won lol. At least now I can confidently point to the acro post on me that I bus as scum and have good reads late as town. Holyflare makes a fantastic crown holder. | ||
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Edit: gonzaw knows what's up | ||
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On February 19 2014 14:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Man im sorry for not playing the game as well as I couldve but we wouldve lost eventually. Why did scum let holyflare get so close to being lynched? I think that helped tremendously for the scumteam. Wave into HF into automatically win. There was no eventual loss. People didn't play well, scum capitalized. | ||
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