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raynpelikoneet
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On February 10 2014 23:59 marvellosity wrote: Why do this thing that literally no-one else picked up on but me? the net of it is this Oats. Vayne decided to "shenannie" on to you and gave some vague crap reasons. Actually that's a perfectly decent play and if it had been left there it would look quite normal. The kicker is that I decided to press him on it and he actually had no good answer for his actions, and then he just shut up and hoped it went away. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On February 11 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah Vayne looks pretty bad aswell. Do you remember what game it is that Vayne was mafia in and he made that small post about WoS saying he'd looked fine or town from his earlier posting, I pressed him on it, and he was unable to actually back up his post properly? Was it first iteration of LXIV? | ||
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geript
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On February 11 2014 00:06 marvellosity wrote: Do you remember what game it is that Vayne was mafia in and he made that small post about WoS saying he'd looked fine or town from his earlier posting, I pressed him on it, and he was unable to actually back up his post properly? Was it first iteration of LXIV? Yes it was. | ||
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marvellosity
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On February 10 2014 23:51 marvellosity wrote: VA is quite likely to be scum I think, why don't you think so? His move off Corazon felt really contrived towards the end of the day. Voting Oats with "shenannies" with this reasoning: - and then when pressed by me on how/why, he said: And yet, despite the fact it didn't look like his scumgame and maybe it was all some sort of game - his vote remained on Oats at the end of the day. Basically an astonishing misuse of his vote that apparently no-one notices or cares about. Because it's VA? Sure, it's strange, but are you certain there is benefit in mafia for doing what he did? I just decided it was illogical as either faction really. I don't believe "getting off a wagon" is a thing because anyone who is reading the game knows he was on Corazon, in addition he didn't do anything to claim credit for "moving off Cora". He made a random statement about the attitude of Cora that may well be right. I actually agree Cora's hyper aggressiveness at the end made him less likely to be scum. So why did he do it? Shenanigans? sure, but is that alignment indicative? Maybe it is, please explain to me why. I had a weak town-read on him for some early game posts. Most notably this one. On February 08 2014 11:25 VayneAuthority wrote: I'd say the mafia team would not bother chatting with eachother this early, if they have even showed up at all. Can probably put mutually exclusive brackets on geript(wave,yamato) This just felt like a pretty good random observation to make at the time. It's a bit of Vivax logic but I like vivax logic. On February 09 2014 16:14 VayneAuthority wrote: pretty much I will agree on any policy involving lynching the less desirable players even if it includes myself after giving it some thought. There is no reason for mafia to not nominate all the more townie looking people and make town pick off the better players. So it is really in our best interests to weed out those not participating as much (I realize that is me right now, but day 1 I am never that active) Also this feels like sort-of straightforward attitude. I'm no expert at reading this guy obviously, but I need to be convinced that I should think he's scum. I wish he participated more though. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On February 11 2014 00:10 Palmar wrote: Sure, it's strange, but are you certain there is benefit in mafia for doing what he did? I just decided it was illogical as either faction really. I don't believe "getting off a wagon" is a thing because anyone who is reading the game knows he was on Corazon, in addition he didn't do anything to claim credit for "moving off Cora". He made a random statement about the attitude of Cora that may well be right. I actually agree Cora's hyper aggressiveness at the end made him less likely to be scum. So why did he do it? Shenanigans? sure, but is that alignment indicative? Maybe it is, please explain to me why. I had a weak town-read on him for some early game posts. Most notably this one. This just felt like a pretty good random observation to make at the time. It's a bit of Vivax logic but I like vivax logic. Also this feels like sort-of straightforward attitude. I'm no expert at reading this guy obviously, but I need to be convinced that I should think he's scum. I wish he participated more though. VA makes more good observations as mafia than town because as mafia he knows all the answers already | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On February 11 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: marv what's your stance on VE? Dunno. His filter told me nothing at all but that doesn't have to make him mafia. See LXIV for similar I guess. I need him to interact with the thread. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
After that LXIV game (the post marv pointed out) he even said that. He didn't read the thread properly and felt like he needed to post something and made something up he could not back up later. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On February 11 2014 00:12 marvellosity wrote: Dunno. His filter told me nothing at all but that doesn't have to make him mafia. See LXIV for similar I guess. I need him to interact with the thread. The problem is LXIV was a PM game, he was talking with WoS constantly and a lot. He in fact had thoughts, he just did not feel the need to bring them into the thread. This is a different game, he is just idk.. saying some random stuff?? That's how it feels like to me. He's not really trying to talk to anyone and doesn't care if people even pay attention to what he says. The stuff he says looks "clean" but does not really have an effect to anything. Hiding in plain sight if you know what i mean? There is nothing he is trying to accomplish, which makes sense as mafia especially given that Corazon was town. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On February 11 2014 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem is LXIV was a PM game, he was talking with WoS constantly and a lot. He in fact had thoughts, he just did not feel the need to bring them into the thread. This is a different game, he is just idk.. saying some random stuff?? That's how it feels like to me. He's not really trying to talk to anyone and doesn't care if people even pay attention to what he says. The stuff he says looks "clean" but does not really have an effect to anything. Hiding in plain sight if you know what i mean? There is nothing he is trying to accomplish, which makes sense as mafia especially given that Corazon was town. I know, I know, and I cannot disagree with anything you say. Like your paragraph is a perfectly good case on him. I'd just like to give him some more time I guess. I can see him playing this way as town. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36160 Posts
On February 10 2014 06:52 Grackaroni wrote: This is the only part I'm going to address. I'm definitely less confident about being correct with reads this game; I don't have anyone I really want to lynch too strongly except maybe Marv but he's actually made himself hard to read by just refusing to chat with me. And yet On February 10 2014 09:34 Grackaroni wrote: Lulz Yamato. I probably should have known but Marv was super confident he would rage and that's just hard to ignore. On February 10 2014 10:05 Grackaroni wrote: Sooooo who's getting nominated? I bet it will be Marv/Palmar/Yamato and his playful "blaming" of me for the lynch don't seem to suggest a mafiaread on me. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Grackaroni
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