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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:07 GMT
#1583
For those reading the thread at a later stage <3
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:10 GMT
#1585
Koshi, stop snipping at rayn, dear.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:13 GMT
#1587
also

rayn, dear
reindeer

:OOOO
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:15 GMT
#1589
Oats, you never answered when I became town to you again.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:18 GMT
#1592
On February 12 2014 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 03:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn you've been calling me scum this whole cycle. Forgive me if I take EVERYTHING you say with a grain of salt.

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 03:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like you say you listen to me but you cherrypick two one-line posts to try and disprove me "pushing" Vayne. Why didn't you include the post where I provide the reasoning for my read rayn? Because you're not interested in "figuring me out", you're interested in garnering enough thread sentiment to lynch me.

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
I am talking to you - if you're on the cusp of rage that's your thing, not mine. I never said I wouldn't talk to or listen to you. I said I'd take everything you say with a grain of salt - meaning that because I'm a scumread of yours, you're obviously not going to be talking to me about your real scumreads and you're only trying to get me to "slip" or whatever and everything you say has a sole purpose of getting me lynched whenever the opportunity arises.

So rage on friend. It makes literally zero difference to me. If you're town then perhaps your rage will make you see things differently.


This is a set of posts that bother me the most about VE. Especially the bolded parts. He kinda says i am mafia because why else would you write the bolds?

But right after the nominations he says i am an universal townread (which was not even true).
These two do not go together very well for me.

No, what he's saying is that you are town and you think he's mafia (and you're possibly tunnelled), so you're just trying to make him slipup and reveal things rather than talk genuinely about his scumreads.

However, that doesn't actually make the posts look any better, because if he's town and he thinks you're town, he should be looking to convince you that your scumread on him is incorrect.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:20 GMT
#1595
Very good Koshi. Have a marv-hug.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:24 GMT
#1599
On February 12 2014 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 00:18 marvellosity wrote:
On February 12 2014 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 11 2014 03:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn you've been calling me scum this whole cycle. Forgive me if I take EVERYTHING you say with a grain of salt.

On February 11 2014 03:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like you say you listen to me but you cherrypick two one-line posts to try and disprove me "pushing" Vayne. Why didn't you include the post where I provide the reasoning for my read rayn? Because you're not interested in "figuring me out", you're interested in garnering enough thread sentiment to lynch me.

On February 11 2014 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
I am talking to you - if you're on the cusp of rage that's your thing, not mine. I never said I wouldn't talk to or listen to you. I said I'd take everything you say with a grain of salt - meaning that because I'm a scumread of yours, you're obviously not going to be talking to me about your real scumreads and you're only trying to get me to "slip" or whatever and everything you say has a sole purpose of getting me lynched whenever the opportunity arises.

So rage on friend. It makes literally zero difference to me. If you're town then perhaps your rage will make you see things differently.


This is a set of posts that bother me the most about VE. Especially the bolded parts. He kinda says i am mafia because why else would you write the bolds?

But right after the nominations he says i am an universal townread (which was not even true).
These two do not go together very well for me.

No, what he's saying is that you are town and you think he's mafia (and you're possibly tunnelled), so you're just trying to make him slipup and reveal things rather than talk genuinely about his scumreads.

However, that doesn't actually make the posts look any better, because if he's town and he thinks you're town, he should be looking to convince you that your scumread on him is incorrect.

Well apparently he thinks i am town. Has VE just become 100x worse player he used to be?
Like what's that shit then?

I'm not sure, it's kinda insidious.

I don't know if you remember in LXIV, he kept telling people to go away who thought he might be scum. For example I read coag as clear town in that game because he'd engaged in VE, VE had told him to shit off, and coag thought he'd caught VE (they were both town for anyone wondering). I think VE did the same to you as well maybe?

This game, those posts... they aren't that blatant compared to LXIV. You've not come across to me as particularly tunnelled on VE, so his posts repeatedly saying he won't engage with you because you're just going to be unfair come across quite badly indeed.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:26 GMT
#1600
One thing about VE that makes me wary of being sure he's mafia is that I somehow feel that as scum he'd push some agenda more.

Mafia-VE has never ever been afraid to push an agenda, and I don't really see it very much here.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:27 GMT
#1603
No the explanations make sense if he thinks you're town as I already explained, but still meh.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:28 GMT
#1605
On February 12 2014 00:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh hi! Gosh am I interrupting?!

How are you today, sweetcheeks?

How did your filter-dive last night go?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:28 GMT
#1607
ninjad
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:28 GMT
#1608
On February 12 2014 00:26 marvellosity wrote:
One thing about VE that makes me wary of being sure he's mafia is that I somehow feel that as scum he'd push some agenda more.

Mafia-VE has never ever been afraid to push an agenda, and I don't really see it very much here.

Just requoting this because I think it's kinda an important thing to think about.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:29 GMT
#1611
On February 12 2014 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 00:26 marvellosity wrote:
One thing about VE that makes me wary of being sure he's mafia is that I somehow feel that as scum he'd push some agenda more.

Mafia-VE has never ever been afraid to push an agenda, and I don't really see it very much here.

The thing is does he really have to? Or rather has there been a point in this game where he needed to d oso? We were pretty set on lynching Cora on D1 because he decided it was cool to not play at all. There was pretty much nothing mafia needed to do and especially considering me, you and palmar are very very VERY likely to be town why would you need to push any agenda instead of keeping options open when one of yours is not even close of getting lynched?

Well the thing about VE is that it's not really that he "needs" to, he just "does".

I don't remember a single scum-VE game where there isn't a clear direction in his play.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:32 GMT
#1615
On February 12 2014 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 00:29 marvellosity wrote:
On February 12 2014 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 12 2014 00:26 marvellosity wrote:
One thing about VE that makes me wary of being sure he's mafia is that I somehow feel that as scum he'd push some agenda more.

Mafia-VE has never ever been afraid to push an agenda, and I don't really see it very much here.

The thing is does he really have to? Or rather has there been a point in this game where he needed to d oso? We were pretty set on lynching Cora on D1 because he decided it was cool to not play at all. There was pretty much nothing mafia needed to do and especially considering me, you and palmar are very very VERY likely to be town why would you need to push any agenda instead of keeping options open when one of yours is not even close of getting lynched?

Well the thing about VE is that it's not really that he "needs" to, he just "does".

I don't remember a single scum-VE game where there isn't a clear direction in his play.

Correct me if i am wrong but VE's play has changed a lot since his last scumgame?

yeah, but imo that doesn't really change the central point.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:33 GMT
#1616
On February 12 2014 00:31 Koshi wrote:
Another question asked by Grack that got answered and then nothing.

You're right, and it was a bad, "gimme" question too.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:50 GMT
#1637
I don't understand this argument.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:51 GMT
#1641
On February 12 2014 00:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
A SUSPICIOUS DROPPING INDEED MY FRIEND.

no not really.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:52 GMT
#1645
That's the worst preflip association I've ever read in my life.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:55 GMT
#1651
On February 12 2014 00:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
K marv. Don't explain why or anything, just state it casually.

Because you're totally skewing how things went down. Koshi getting feels that VA is mafia and dropping it when he's under large pressure himself despite talking about it quite a lot beforehand is not in any way an unnatural town reaction. Plus he looks really quite town anyway. Nothing about Koshi's read on VA seems manufactured or false or scummy.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 11 2014 15:56 GMT
#1654
On February 12 2014 00:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
He continually referred to VA as his preferred lynch marv. If VA flips scum, then Koshi is confirmed mafia, end of story.

So what if he did? Koshi is confirmed town and he can quote this post to defend himself during later lynches if he wants.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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