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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 08 2014 12:43 GMT
#201
K feel better bout VE but still want to ask about those Cora posts.
Geript looking better on this page but I don't understand all this policy shit that stemmed from Rayn (who kinda fucked off a little after introducing it and a couple questions---also marv buddying ugh)
Yeah wait so we're not supposed to talk townreads next phase? I think I understand the rationale maybe but is it because scum can just force us to lynch a townie during noms no matter what? Dunno if I get it fully.

More importantly rayn/yamato are on the same page and geript is vehemently against it calling it scummy. Yamato drops the discussion basically---which is weird because I want to know exactly what about he finds scummy (or others find towny for that matter)

Dunno mebbe just me being dumb for a change but I don't follow the strategy well
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 08 2014 12:45 GMT
#202
If you don't get it then don't try to over-analyze it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 08 2014 12:46 GMT
#203
Like there is no point in your last post. Someone might look scummy but you don't really know if they do or not..
What??
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 08 2014 12:51 GMT
#204
On February 08 2014 21:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like there is no point in your last post. Someone might look scummy but you don't really know if they do or not..
What??

I never said anyone looks scummy in my last post.
Don't overanalyze it why?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 08 2014 12:54 GMT
#205
Well what exactly are you saying in that post then?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 08 2014 13:01 GMT
#206
I start talking about VE and geript which I think is pretty clear.
Then your entrance introduced policy which actually interests me but the buddying withh marv looks bad to me

As far as policy itself I don't follow the strategy so I want clarification
And I found it interesting that you and yamato find it towny but geript is completely opposed to it, but since I don't understand the strategy behind it I can't really determine what a dichotomy like that indicates
If you're looking for conclusions on alignment then I'm sorry to disappooint you <12h into D1. Not enough feels yet
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 08 2014 13:06 GMT
#207
It's not a policy. I think it's not beneficial to give out townreads for no reason because in this setup it helps mafia more than it does help town. It's pretty clear. I dunno what thread are you reading or how much attention do you pay to the game as geript is not disagreeing with me and yamato went further with that saying that we should not talk at all on the dawn (nomination phase) which IS dumb.

How exactly am i buddying with marv? I am trying to talk to him and his last post and "comeback" to the thread was quite undewhelming imo.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 08 2014 13:06 GMT
#208
Like how does town benefit from knowing you think Risen is town?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 08 2014 13:12 GMT
#209
Oh I took that conersation to be about the townreads part not about where he said not to be discussing anything.
I agree that's dumb. But if you think it was dumb why not pursue it at the time with geript then?

And as far as you/marv yes his appearance was meh; but I assumed buddying based on your earlier interaction with him.

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 08 2014 13:15 GMT
#210
On February 08 2014 22:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like how does town benefit from knowing you think Risen is town?

See this is what I mean.
Is this a strategy thing this game that I shouldn't be giving out townreads period?

I thought you were gonna be supportive of feels Rayn
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 08 2014 13:15 GMT
#211
I asked him if he wants to help me lynch mafia. That's not buddying.
There is no reason for me to repeat what geript said. I know yamato pushed the same thing in the last game and actually now, that i just listened the podcast, i want to ask him why is he doing the same thing here as in the podcast in my opinion he agreed that was not the best strategy for the town.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 08 2014 13:19 GMT
#212
Can you comment on the VE/ Cora thing I mentioned earlier?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 08 2014 13:21 GMT
#213
On February 08 2014 22:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 22:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like how does town benefit from knowing you think Risen is town?

See this is what I mean.
Is this a strategy thing this game that I shouldn't be giving out townreads period?

I thought you were gonna be supportive of feels Rayn

If we pretend this is a nomination phase and let's say you are town here's what we got:
Mafia knows you think Risen is town. Mafia probably also knows who you think is mafia if you have contributed enough. IF they wanna plan their nominations based on what people think about other people (why would they not?) it's easier if you can "rank" the players based on their towniness and make an educated guess on who is gonna get lynched if you nominate X, Y and Z. You would probably not vote for Risen in this scenario. So if Risen is town and put up for lynch candidate you will probably be voting for one of the two other guys. So, if mafia wants to put one scum out there, they already have information that your vote is gonna be at best for them 50/50 (assuming they wanna put Risen up for some reason). Now that's what mafia gains. What does town gain? That we know you think Risen is town "because of feels". Does that help? Is he up for lynch? Do you feel like he is getting mislynched now and that he needs your help because otherwise we lynch town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 08 2014 13:21 GMT
#214
On February 08 2014 22:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can you comment on the VE/ Cora thing I mentioned earlier?

I think VE and Cora are the scummiest people from the one's that have posted.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 08 2014 13:22 GMT
#215
And by "posted" i mean from the people who have actually said something intelligent.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 08 2014 13:26 GMT
#216
On February 08 2014 22:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 22:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 08 2014 22:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like how does town benefit from knowing you think Risen is town?

See this is what I mean.
Is this a strategy thing this game that I shouldn't be giving out townreads period?

I thought you were gonna be supportive of feels Rayn

If we pretend this is a nomination phase and let's say you are town here's what we got:
Mafia knows you think Risen is town. Mafia probably also knows who you think is mafia if you have contributed enough. IF they wanna plan their nominations based on what people think about other people (why would they not?) it's easier if you can "rank" the players based on their towniness and make an educated guess on who is gonna get lynched if you nominate X, Y and Z. You would probably not vote for Risen in this scenario. So if Risen is town and put up for lynch candidate you will probably be voting for one of the two other guys. So, if mafia wants to put one scum out there, they already have information that your vote is gonna be at best for them 50/50 (assuming they wanna put Risen up for some reason). Now that's what mafia gains. What does town gain? That we know you think Risen is town "because of feels". Does that help? Is he up for lynch? Do you feel like he is getting mislynched now and that he needs your help because otherwise we lynch town?

Well its not like anyone believes feels to be valid enough to consider anyway but I see your point. Townread was before I read the strategy talk so oops I guess.

So as far as VE/Cora do you think scum-scum interaction then? Is on escummier than another?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 08 2014 13:29 GMT
#217
On February 08 2014 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And by "posted" i mean from the people who have actually said something intelligent.

Well aside from one obvious case, are there others who fit in the category of not having said anything intelligent (not counting those who haven't participated).
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 08 2014 13:29 GMT
#218
I'd lynch Cora atm for this:
On February 08 2014 19:01 yamato77 wrote:
RE: Cora

Didn't care for this bit:

Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 12:25 Corazon wrote:
On February 08 2014 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well there is no "hook" for Alak to have to "get off" since he hasn't even been give a few hours. I think it is null for now Cora. It doesn't even feel scummy to you or you wouldn't be asking, you would be telling us.

Alright, I will give it a break. I just thought the conversation about Geript was going nowhere, so I wanted to throw it out there.

@Oats: 4 people in this game are scum. When I figure out who is scum, I'll let you know babycakes


Shoots down Oats for Oats' dumb "who is scum?" question, then

Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 16:22 Corazon wrote:
Geript, when do you plan on actually trying to find scum? Just curious.


Turns around and does the same stupid thing.

I, unlike you, give him no townie points for the Slam questions because it was a silly thing to ask anyway.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 08 2014 13:32 GMT
#219
On February 08 2014 22:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And by "posted" i mean from the people who have actually said something intelligent.

Well aside from one obvious case, are there others who fit in the category of not having said anything intelligent (not counting those who haven't participated).

Slam, Holyflare.
Dunno what to think about marv yet and Oats' being lurkish (he posted in the LXIV thread) is weird.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 08 2014 13:33 GMT
#220
I saw that but it didn't seem like the same thing to me.
Coras answer is that he doesn't know, not shutting down Oats, and his question to geript is more along the lines of 'stop fucking around.'

If you think cora is fucking around then maybe its the same thing.
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