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On February 12 2014 09:21 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 09:18 Palmar wrote:On February 12 2014 09:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
what was the question? stopped reading the thread after there was 200 posts about me being scum and nothing else. You said you contradicted yourself often. So I wanted you to clarify, which of the two stances is your actual thoughts, or was your actual thoughts at the time. both were my real thoughts at the time or else I wouldnt have posted it The only way this nomination makes sense is if they plan to win a perfect game because options will tend to thin out fairly quickly. They will just haev to keep adding 1 person to the "nomination lynch" and we will slowly clamp them.
No you seemed convinced there was one mafia in the three of us, in which case we're basically fucked. Does that no longer apply? Now you seem to be implying that the two survivors of this lynch will be town, which contradicts your earlier statement that this was a 1-scum nomination.
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On February 12 2014 09:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't say smart shit, I say stupid shit because I'm fucking stupid Palmar. Since when have you EVER expected me to say smart shit?
You've been useful in the past!
And now that you basically know I'm town, it should make the game much easier for you as you generally love tunneling me (and tbh, I tunnel you right back a bit).
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you have like two free townreads, use them!
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On February 12 2014 09:23 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 09:23 Palmar wrote:On February 12 2014 09:21 VayneAuthority wrote:On February 12 2014 09:18 Palmar wrote:On February 12 2014 09:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
what was the question? stopped reading the thread after there was 200 posts about me being scum and nothing else. You said you contradicted yourself often. So I wanted you to clarify, which of the two stances is your actual thoughts, or was your actual thoughts at the time. both were my real thoughts at the time or else I wouldnt have posted it The only way this nomination makes sense is if they plan to win a perfect game because options will tend to thin out fairly quickly. They will just haev to keep adding 1 person to the "nomination lynch" and we will slowly clamp them. No you seemed convinced there was one mafia in the three of us, in which case we're basically fucked. Does that no longer apply? Now you seem to be implying that the two survivors of this lynch will be town, which contradicts your earlier statement that this was a 1-scum nomination. Because both options are asinine so I keep flip flopping.
So what do you think right now.
Is there a scum in the pool of people getting lynched? yes/no
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On February 12 2014 09:25 marvellosity wrote:
What really sucks from my perspective is at this point of the game I'm still pretty lost. A whole tonne of people could be mafia but they could also still be town. A lot of stuff got discussed today but the net result of it is that the people i already thought were town I continued to think were town, and the people I think/thought were mafia could still be mafia but I still don't really know.
Finding it almost impossible to pick out any sensible 4 man team. geript, wave, wos, va, oats, grack... could be any of them, and probably mafia outside these names too, and I just don't know. Sucks.
yes.
Sadly there is a bunch of townies that are doing their best not to win the game. It should only take 2 or so to step up for the game to get much easier.
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like I'm sure one of ve/oats/yamato is town, but it's impossible to figure out who.
And then there's the people that are just not playing like geript and VA
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On February 12 2014 09:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
holyflare is mafia 100% that will be my best contribution to this game.
Why don't you write long concise posts that explain your exact thought process from one post to another as you were being put under pressure by marv, also that thing from day 1.
That would be an amazing contribution. If you're actually town and manage to not get mislynched, that's ten times more valuable than throwing out a random name with no reasoning and calling him scum. In fact, that's worthless.
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On February 12 2014 09:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 09:28 Palmar wrote:
like I'm sure one of ve/oats/yamato is town, but it's impossible to figure out who.
And then there's the people that are just not playing like geript and VA guaranteed. quite possibly even 2. shrug.
yeah meant to write at least.
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will do, sadly tomorrow might get a bit wasted in an autolynch on VA unless he steps up.
Looks like people have forgotten the whole "the worst player in the game gets lynched every cycle". You can't blame town, you can only blame your own inability to convince them.
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I told you host was drunk though, we should've known.
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short days are meh.
and yes marv, including the vote-count-mess from the host this would indeed be the best play ever.
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Marv is alive so I don't have to make compromises.
##Vote VayneAuthority
Until you come up with a satisfactory explanation of your entire game, along with cases on your top scumreads. I see no reason to keep you alive.
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On February 12 2014 17:23 Keirathi wrote:@yamato: Meh. You were all about getting the credit for the lynch, then Show nested quote +On February 10 2014 09:34 yamato77 wrote:On February 10 2014 09:31 marvellosity wrote:
alright yam, you get all the credit. Whatever, it's his own damn fault he got lynched. and basically told everyone to fuck off. How the fuck is that a townie mindset?
I'm not going to go back to verify what you're claiming is true here Keirath, but I don't see how that is mafia mindset either.
Assuming your premise is true, that yamato initially wanted credit for the lynch, and then blamed cora, why would mafia do that? Mafia already knows there is no credit to be taken from the lynch, right? So why would scumyamato want credit.
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On February 12 2014 19:24 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar, do you still think Wave's posting is reasonable?
I never said it was reasonable there is a reason I ignore him. I said the sheer amount made me think he was probably town.
Sheer amount seems to have fallen off a bit, now I need to go back and read what he actually said.
I don't want to lynch him today over VA (note I'm 2 pages behind in the thread, maybe VA came in strong).
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On February 12 2014 10:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Marv why don't you talk to me a little bit about Yamato. I raised a couple of points earlier that gosh, I'd REALLY like your input on, but you're too busy browbeating me for being frustrated that NO ONE IS EVEN TRYING TO SEE MY CONTRIBUTIONS.
I decided to see if the bolded part is actually true. I did not find an actual case or anything, but I myself tend to prefer the shorter more concise points, so I can't hold it against VE. So I went on a wonderful journey reading through VE's filter.
I did not find these points. What I found are generic statements about yamato, without any explanation at all on WHY these points were important.
On February 12 2014 03:19 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2014 18:16 yamato77 wrote:On February 09 2014 18:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Meeeehhhh...it's not really any different from what I expect from twonCora so far yamato. Like...you even said it, his only opinions are of people attacking him. He found you all so he's clearly reading the thread right? So he doesn't read as scum? That's a non-sequitur. What I said was, this is similar to how he was playing in Quiet Game, which is true. Also, his reads are pathetically shallow and he doesn't seem very interested in furthering them, either. When asked, he basically just said, "Yeah, I think he (Palmar) is scum but I'm not going to do anything until he comes back." Weeeeeeeak. No one but Palmar has been strongly pushing any of their reads and I'm tired of letting these low-effort players play like this. I mean, this town is like, drowning in nonchalance. Where's the impetus? I for one find this post ironic and would like everyone to reflect on its significance.
And again here, he says the filter is short, but yamato announced he'd not be available for posting much, so there is lacking a why here again.
On February 12 2014 03:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
It helps if you get a feel for his play this game by opening his filter and reading his posts. It doesn't take long, A) there aren't very many and B) the majority of them are very short.
I could not find anything else in VE's recent filter (I admit I did not look back at day 1) that said anything of any substance about yamato. I don't think he even discussed my case that yamato then explained. It's a completely effortless push and there is a big theme of VE just saying things instead of explaining things.
In fact, here is a random collection of unexplained VE reads. I did not find any explained reads since the nightphase (when mafia is picking nomination targets).
+ Show Spoiler +On February 12 2014 08:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I'm suspicious of yamato, why do my posts about him not count as anything Rayn? Why are the nominees the only ones whose contributions count? Bullshit. On February 12 2014 01:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Wasn't Holy Mafia in Shadow? And wasn't his MO "Fuck off and come back with huge paragraph posts"?
I could lynch Holy too probably. On February 12 2014 01:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think Oats/geript/Vayne/yamato is a fine scumteam. On February 12 2014 01:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
OH YEAH KOSHI.
Oats/geript/Vayne/Koshi. ftw. On February 12 2014 00:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm liking Vayne for scum, and if I could read Grack I would probably give him a scumread for this game...but I can't read Grack. On February 11 2014 11:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
To be fair, I also had suspicions of Koshi independent of yours Wave. Just sayin.
To be completely fair, VE did make one good case, that was during the night and on me. He explained why he thought I was scum (something he hasn't done about anyone since), and made a correct observation. Since then he has reasonably cleared me, but nothing but some random rage has replaced it.
I don't know, maybe people would talk to you VE if you actually said something.
The irony is that VE is not a fan of his own style this game:
On February 12 2014 00:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
K marv. Don't explain why or anything, just state it casually.
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A pattern and double standards.
It's not end-all damning, but I feel it's good grounds for evaluating him. We should have plenty of time for discussion anyway as VA doesn't seem like he's going to actually play the game. so there's like 3 phases until the next town-controlled lynch is up.
I just like pointing things out.
Hell, if VE is somehow town, this might help whip him into shape.
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Not every observation I make is "GUY X IS SCUM!!!". I like patterns!
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I'm actually surprised you don't find this interesting marv, unless of course you had already noted the same.
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On February 12 2014 23:16 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 23:14 Palmar wrote:
I'm actually surprised you don't find this interesting marv, unless of course you had already noted the same. I just don't find it that telling for his alignment. Don't ask me what I do find telling though, because I couldn't qualify that to you very well.
I don't even know what you think his alignment is.
I for a moment there thought his rage was genuine which is why decided to actually look at the yamato points, which then led to me noticing he hadn't actually said anything so now I'm a bit "hurr hurr, maybe red?"
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