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DarthPunk
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On February 04 2014 12:04 Promethelax wrote: no reason for town, no reason for scum, yes reason for Artanis. Got it. Not alignment indicative. Move on to something else. There is a reason for scum to do it tho, to wifom the town. | ||
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On February 04 2014 12:05 Promethelax wrote: So do you have any reads on any players? Besides 'wait and see?' Not really. We have infinite time so I don't see why we should rush things. | ||
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On February 04 2014 12:07 Promethelax wrote: I'm sorry, I just don't see it. If town never did it there would be no wifom. If there is wifom than all it is is wifom. Maybe I just value wifom more than you do as a tool to deceive the town. | ||
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Still enough to talk things out. I don't know why you are pushing me. Should I push some reads I don't believe in Prome? would that make you happy? | ||
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On February 04 2014 12:09 Promethelax wrote: I don't think its a bad tool for scum, I just think it is a bad reason to read someone as scum. If something makes no sense for town and makes sense for scum then that is a legit reason for someone to be scummy. | ||
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What are they and why? | ||
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Why are you presenting cephiro as one of your reads when he is basically a policy lynch? Why not just call him a policy lynch? | ||
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On February 04 2014 12:16 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok caught up. I'm comfortable with my vote where it is despite the findings that Artanis specifically does this all the time as either alignment, on voice, at weddings and at barmitzvahs. DP the salt overflowing from this thread has raised my blood pressure. I'd stick you with a solid townread but I worry simply because I figure you're smart enough to know that kind of reaction is what people expect from you. I also have a bunch of townreads already in this game and there's only room for so many (and I'm hesitant to dump scumreads simply on lurkers). I want to talk to you but I think the current topics have been done to death a little. What do you make of marv? That is the correct play. I am town though. About marv. He has been absolutely fucking useless. He bitched about me raging, talked about artanis not being scum or town and that is about it. He did make one post I liked though: On February 04 2014 11:09 marvellosity wrote: The absolute best thing for mafia in this sort of game is to have townies riled up and wanting to take vengeful shots. Ironically. Mafia have much less space to hide in if people are rational and aren't self-hammering just so they can shoot the person that can piss them off. Anyone should be able to see that that is absolutely the best thing for mafia. Worst thing for mafia = everyone being rational so they can't take funky shots if they're lynched under the guise of emotion or having a laugh. Maybe Artanis is town and he's not going to bow to the will of the people, but if he's in danger of being lynched, it should be clear how and why his top suspect is, and we can go off that. So if I assume you're town, DP, then whatever it takes for this not to happen is what you gotta do. Because I'm not having tits throw this game away because they're pissed off and they want to shoot people. This seemed like a genuine attempt to get the town on track. but still it is very easy to fake something like that as scum. What do you think? | ||
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On February 04 2014 12:22 Promethelax wrote: Its almost as if I explained it in that post. Try reading it. OK prome are you going to meet me halfway here and answer my questions and engage in a conversation or are you going to just keep telling me to read things. Honestly the latter is boring and not very productive. | ||
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##vote:promethelax No reason to refuse to answer questions and engage in a discourse if you are town. Further I wouldn't expect the town prome I've played in a tonne of games with to act that way. | ||
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On February 04 2014 12:31 Promethelax wrote: Sorry, that wasn't productive, mad at people who are not you. two reasons 1: gut says people present are town for various reasons. I would bet good money that at least one of ceph/rayn are scum 2. it was a change of topic from the DP thinks Art is scum for something prome thinks is not alignment indicative. Amd I was/am bored with that topic. Well neither of those things were in the post you told me to read so.... What do you think of marv? Feel free to ask me things too. | ||
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But like If he thought I was scum then why is he telling me to calm down like my emotion is genuine. If you think I am scum would you view my rage as genuine? I don't think so and it is fucking off. | ||
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On February 04 2014 13:16 WaveofShadow wrote: Artanis, HF, mebbe DP. I don't like giving iamp a townread because I feel he hasn't contributed much but I give him one anyway for 'feels+' reasons. You're probably somewhere above DP level right now, on towny side of null. This honestly makes me sad. Im totes town. | ||
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What have you don marv? read your own filter. | ||
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On February 04 2014 19:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: DarthPunk what do you think of my post about marv/prome? To be honest the way marv acted around my rage out with holy flare was not alignment indicative at all. I would expect marv to act the same way and call it dumb and mock me a bit for it either way. He has been useless so far though aside from the post a pointed out. Which felt good. The thing is though that that vote is just a really easy thing for him to jump on his reasoning is total crap. I called him useless when he has barely done anything and just seems like a cop out to be honest. Marv is scummy for that reason, I would expect him to have done more in terms of scum hunting with plenty of stuff to analyze now, and the vote is just fucking bandwagoning onto thread sentiment with no reasoning at all. I expect better from marvs town play, and I honestly think town marv would realise I'm town by now as I have raged out several times just like this as town. As to prome. Yeah the pushing the asleep people was fucking weird, and I had not noticed his lack of follow up on HF actually. Also it was weird how defensive he was about answering questions and promoting discussion with me and then he backflipped about it when I voted for him. I want to see what prome has to say now that holy flare has posted two big cases in the thread. What do you think about artanis' scum claim? | ||
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On February 04 2014 19:18 marvellosity wrote: I'm just obviously town, and anyone who can't see that is bad or scum. That is fucking bullshit reasoning. You think you are obviously town. So if someone calls you useless or scummy they must be scum. Or bad. and so we should insta vote them because you think you are obviously town. | ||
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Obvious pressure vote is obvious. you should have read into that easily. Wtf is wrong with you. That was like the most obvious "get talking please" vote ever. Like I just don't see how you are reading anything from basic shit like that. | ||
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