[I][T][M] Vengeful Mini Mafia! - Page 2

On February 04 2014 09:50 Holyflare wrote:


we have a lot of vig shots what are you saying?

On February 04 2014 09:53 iamperfection wrote:

um i just peroused his games in the database and he only seems to lurk when he is scum. So i would go with lynch him if he lurks.......

On February 04 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:


This. Specifically. You aren't pushing for a lynch on Artanis. In fact, you rationalised SOMEHOW that his fake claim was the same as the one WoS linked that was trying to draw out other mafia claims.

On February 04 2014 10:23 Holyflare wrote:
EBWOP:

On February 04 2014 10:25 Holyflare wrote:
In fact, WoS why are you opting out of discussion? DP literally just stated that he pushed for people that claim scum's lynch. Has he been doing that here?

On February 04 2014 10:49 Holyflare wrote:


Yes. There is a difference though. Getting emotional in the game when people aren't doing something or are town that aren't listening is when it mostly happens. Getting emotional at someone pushing "shit cases" and being "awful" shouldn't trigger those same emotions though, your first thought should be that they are scum pushing an agenda and then further investigate. Especially as DP has said "HF is a good town player that I listened to" (in Titanic). So if he thinks I am being shit in this game he should jump to the conclusion that I am being scum. Yet, this anger relates to someone that has a scum mindset of a towny pushing a case that doesn't "make sense to me even if I AM scum".

On February 04 2014 12:13 Promethelax wrote:






do you even read bro?

On February 04 2014 12:26 DarthPunk wrote:


That is the correct play. I am town though.

About marv. He has been absolutely fucking useless. He bitched about me raging, talked about artanis not being scum or town and that is about it.

He did make one post I liked though:




This seemed like a genuine attempt to get the town on track. but still it is very easy to fake something like that as scum.

What do you think?

On February 04 2014 11:35 marvellosity wrote:
By the way.

If I find 3 townies this cycle then town wins for sure. By my rough calculations. And if I find 2 then town is in a super strong spot, maybe even winning by force as well.

iamp is still looking sexy to me. So 1-2 more and we're in an awesome spot. Yeehaw!

On February 04 2014 11:14 marvellosity wrote:
Claiming mafia is stupid and is quite clearly a net benefit to mafia, because I'm sitting here answering this question, and if he's town then my time is better spent not sitting here answering this question (it is, in fact, better spent sleeping).

Sadly townies do stupid things in the name of 'hilarity', so you never really know. Probably best not to think about it too much. We'll see what Artanis does tomorrow.

On February 04 2014 11:14 marvellosity wrote:
We're also not going to talk about how close posts were together and how mindmeldy that makes them. Jeez

On February 04 2014 12:31 Promethelax wrote:
Sorry, that wasn't productive, mad at people who are not you.

two reasons
1: gut says people present are town for various reasons. I would bet good money that at least one of ceph/rayn are scum
2. it was a change of topic from the DP thinks Art is scum for something prome thinks is not alignment indicative. Amd I was/am bored with that topic.

On February 04 2014 09:51 WaveofShadow wrote:

Iamp, you're talking a lot about shit you don't understand. Nobody paid much attention to marv at all in Shadow game including me and he got away all game not doing a hell of a lot. Had I or anyone else paid more attention to him (which was rather difficult given the other lynch candidates in thread and how marv played), he may very well have been caught and lynched.

Is there a particular reason you're pushing this?

On February 04 2014 13:12 Promethelax wrote:
you missed the thread a bit there. Which makes me feel better given how many times I've already almost posted in their game.

WoS: will you play along? You liked my thought that the posters so far felt townie. Which of the players who have posted feels the least townie?

On February 04 2014 13:16 iamperfection wrote:

because what you said makes no sense.

You say im going to totes be watching you marv so closely but then admit he isn't hard to read. Those two statements cant go together. Which would therefore imply that you dont really intend to watch him closely and are just using that language for show. therefore you would be scum.

On February 04 2014 13:36 iamperfection wrote:
no i said it isnt a strong read.

your right when you say its different when your from an outside but it seems like half the people in that game are going i totally knew it that marv was scum yet there wasn't even really a case brought against him the entire game implies you guys are delusional.

but we are getting off topic

This is my thought process spelled out slowly for you.

1. Wave says he will be watching marv closely
2. iamperfection wonders why and ask if he has trouble reading marv.
3. Wave says he dosnt think marv is hard to read.
4. This does not compute for iamperfection with the watching closely.

When people seem to have thought process that make no sense to me it makes me think they might be scum.

On February 04 2014 15:14 Holyflare wrote:
Wave is another person who I am concerned about being scum.



Wave initially starts the game joking around, however, after I point out the point about scum claiming scum on Artanis he seems to begin to agree with me as evidenced above and below



So, now he is fully in agreement with what I have been saying as he is clearly quoting my reasoning as bolstering his "gut feels".

Yet, increasingly he discovers that his conclusion that scum does this all the time has 0 evidence in the entirety of TL that he remembers. You'd think this would totally remove his read on the player then?



No. He doesn't care what alignment artanis actually his he's just sticking his vote on there. Now, in the shadow game part 1 wave was COMPLETELY different. Take this post for example that he outlines his thought processes (he was town in shadow):
He makes reads from conversation, from interaction, from things that are odd. Now that there is 0 information that Artanis claims scum as scum or town his read should be null. He hasn't interacted with Artanis and he hasn't discussed much else in the game despite a lot of stuff happening between me and DP.

There are a lot of posts in his filter that says all the actions DP has been doing point to town actions - but he could be smart enough to do them as scum. Wishy-washy, non alignment indicative trash. Just like his artanis read. Not only that but after agreeing with my points on Artanis (who his vote is on and is staying on) he puts ME in his top 3 scummy people in the game (based on people that have posted).



This is weird as DP who has done "towny" like things (but maybe scummy???) ranks more scummy than marv who he just made a massive post about here in which he says that he doesn't like a lot of marv's posting (but marv's post can come from both scum marv and town marv so in actuality his post was something that came to the conclusion of null - but he doesn't like them)

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=441979&currentpage=17#329

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This wave is not sitting right with me at all. His gameplay is completeellyyyyyy different to shadow mafia (here is his filter for shadow) and the majority of what he is posting ends up concluding that the players actions are null. His top 3 least towny looking people contain the person who he is voting based on no information, the person he said has been posting towny looking things (but could be scum because he's smart...?) and the person who he has been agreeing with (me) in regards to the person he is voting (artanis).


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