GSL Open Mini Mafia IV

Haro! So I've pretty much blitzed through the thread, but obviously the most recent event eclipses everything that came before it so I've reconfigured most of my reads in light of it. The only reason I can see Moc quitting like he has is if he feels like his scum team has completely failed him, which he straight up acknowledges in the case of Rayn. Gives me the sense that most of his scum team are incompetent and already under pressure. I also dont think hed reveal like this if there were one or two members of his team on at his time of confession, which would be a bit of a dick move, this tentatively clears Grack( who I had pinged as null) thrawn(his posting aggravates me a smidge just like in the last serius game we played, so probs town) and bum, all of whom had decent thread presence and posted within a couple hours of mocstas confession. Bum I especially consider townie because of how seemingly sincere hes been in his attempts to push discussion, case in point this post glows green to my eyes.

"It seems like you have a stronger read on Vivax then you do QuantomPope. Can you respond to what he has said. I would appreciate if you two(three?) would hash out what you think of each other. I'm in the same boat with your scum list, but because you don't go into much detail, I can't benefit from what you think!"

An attempt at getting a contribution out of a player whose likely to be lynched comes off as a weird scum play, unless that scum player is totally confident that the townie will provide misinformation. Something I dont think a scum bum would count on.

Vivax also posted within range of the confession, but even disregarding that I honestly cant believe Mocsta would quit like this if he had Vivax on his team. Same reasoning applies to rob.

Which leaves a pool of six within which lies the last two scum.

1:Shiapi: Has done extremely little for town, that much hasnt changed, Round hasnt really said much on him all game long, usually deflecting questions or arguments against him onto someone else, only once he became the clear lynch did Moc/rayn hop on the wagon faithfully. A shiapi scum partner would def fit the bad scum team narrative.

2:Mattchew: Posts a bunch of one liners, mostly comments on others reads, has a relative amount of heat on him, thread presence low to medium. I dont think hes scum with shiapi unless shiao called his mother a goat or something. Although that would explain Mocs exasperation with his team, meh.

3: Quantom Pope: Extremely low content, could definitely see Mocsta getting pissed about being with this guy.

4:Mordanis: His early posts look like they have some actual, albiet befuddled, thought to them but his targets are odd, and bieng reasonable more often than not does not translate to bieng townie. He goes after Rob and Vivax, two relatively green players at the time, strange choices even if you take into account the volatile nature of any games start. Another odd thing is Rounds hard defense of him.

"I think Mordanis has about the best posts in thread. Yes they are worded a bit awkwardly and idk what that means. He can answer for himself about that. The "brb gonna go write a wall of text case against everyone" is an obvious joke and everyone should be able to realise it.."

at the time Mordanis had done a decent amount of contribution, but it's odd just how far Round sticks his neck out for him, going so far as to call his posts the best thread... Not even sure if Rayn's the kinda player to do that if they were buddies. Could just as well be post flip posturing on a possible lynch target, a motive backed up by Rayns willingness to change his stance on Mord as scum got more desperate for a lynch. Definitely a frustrating scum partner to have, so Mord does fit the terrible scum team theory.

5: Sidesprang: Not much of a contributor, but reads townie to me . Him asking for my replacement seems like a pretty unscummy thing to do, scum would want my slot to stay inactive as long as possible, yet here he is pretty much begging for a real contributor. Also his asking for a townie certificate... Considering the dark green and bloody history of Coag's accursed emblem, seems pretty brazen. Oh and his first vote, although a light hearted one, was on Mocsta... yeah maybe hes scum? Extremely reckless if thats the case, doesn't ultimately read red to me.

6: Jar Jar: least scummy of the bunch, has his own thoughts, pushes his own reads, generally helps town, I can elaborate if anyone likes but if you read through his filter you can see that although sherlock he aint, hes certainly doing more for town than anyone else on this list,(admittedly not saying much.)

Thats all for now, if anyone has any questions, I'll answer them tomorrow, it's been a long day, gl and good night town.

Oh and regardless of all this, no reason to not vote round. Hurray for free lynch!

Hey guys, I got role blocked last night. I feel pretty flattered about it.

My primary doubt in lynching shiao a few days ago was that I had a pretty solid scum read on mattchew, but I figured they both couldn't be scum because Mattchew was pushing him softley towards the start of the game(ie looking for traction minus the heat), and pretty openly as we approached lynch. With the flip bieng what it is, I'm almost certain that Matt is scum and I'm pretty impressed with how little attention hes gotten.

This is Mattchews longest post.




Heres what this post is saying line by line.

1: Hard meta defense of a fairly null player.

2: Says Moc is a jerk, thinks hes town cause reasons?

3: Says im interesting, but is scared to outright call me scum?

4: A list of lurkers and current lynch favourites.

This posts says very little, and yet it's his most content heavy, whats more it comes off almost as cowardly, like hes scared to accuse someone who will actually post back. I've never known Matt to be someones whose scarred to make accusations but this game he seems only willing to go after lurkers. His play comes off as fearful.

You can see that fear on display early on in the game here.


( Easy way to take a stance without saying anything)

here


(eager to diffuse potential fights in the making)

and here, where he responds to a huge post belonging to dont panic by saying

"i'll sheep this other than jarjar"

The only two scum reads in donts post are jar jar and shiapi... This is the safest sheep I've ever seen. He can always point back to it if someone accuses him of jumping on the shiapi train but at the time its such a soft admission thats it's easy for it to go unnoticed. Which it did for the most part.

Mattchew is playing obsencley diplomatic this game, which is scummy in of itself and doubly so considering it just doesn't fit his play style.

With the lone exception of his read on Side Mattchew doesnt make arguments, or explain his convictions, he just throws his voice around and assumes it carries some weight. He has no interest in promoting town discussion, or defending himself, or providing reasons for his accusations. Its probally meant to come off as belligerent townie, but I've played with Matt before and this game he just seems to have no interest in developing the thread whatsoever, although he does seem to want to look like as if hes contributing and present when town needs him.

In general, Mattchew, a fairly argumentative player has done his best to avoid and diffuse arguments, ie here he attempts to dodge a fight with Rayn.




Rayn posted a reasonable case on Matt and Matt deigned to only respond to this one emotional tidbit. When Rayn got aggravated with the deflection Matt just ends the argument with an ultimatum that he knows Rayn lacks the power to act upon.


finally, he responded in similar fashion to my call out of him by saying I'm "interesting" and leaving it at that. He drops the thread there until much later in the game, after I've been inactive for a good long while, and says this.




Once again no reasoning, and once again the target of his affections are two lurkers who may very well not post back at all.

The shallow boldness of his accusations are in direct conflict with the coward like manner in which he engages others. It's as if hes combined the worst bits of town bravado and scum passiveness to form what might very well be one of the most useless in game entities I've come across.

I also find Grack and Mordanis pretty fishy, but I'm not that confident about the Roni and as for Mord (whose done extremely little, even taking into account his trip) it's the same story as before, I dont think Matt and him are scum together and this time I aint going to make the mistake of not choosing Matt. But if the wind blows thier way I wouldnt mind lynching either of them.


Rather not lynch a lurker today, that didnt really work out last time (although Shiao wasn't exactly a lurker).

As for the night kills, I'm pretty sure scum were just trying to snipe blue, cant see any other reason why they would kill Thrawn.

Anyone have any questions for me?

I suppose? But it would work in the opposite direction, a voter woul probably tell me more about the candidate then the candidate about the voter.