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Grackaroni
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VIVAX420
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On February 20 2014 07:35 Grackaroni wrote: Hey Kushm4sta hi. | ||
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Grackaroni
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I bet if you flip scum I will be confirmed town. | ||
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VIVAX420
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gumshoe
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It's been a day or so since Matt's posted, I'm all for hearing what he has to say, but If I was in his shoes as scum I wouldn't walk back into thread until I absolutely had to. In fact if scum is certain hes going down no matter what and are pretty confident in their other two members, they might be going for a modkill. A modkill plus a mislynch is pretty much better than town straight up lynching scum, because it allows scum to likely end the game earlier. Alternatively he may have a role and scum might be trying to hold onto him. Point is, if hes scum I dont see him coming back until after the lynch. Which is not a bad play, if he defends himself he may still look like the best lynch option, but if he takes himself off the table entirely he doesn't even have to worry about giving away info in his defence. We've waited a good while, hes had ample opportunity to adress my case, it hasn't gotten any weaker in his absence and no better one has presented itself. Another 5 day cycle is just going to kill any momentum town has, scum bieng a much smaller faction can mobilize faster and swing votes easier the more desperate we get. The fact that Matt wasnt lynched even though he was at four votes for as long as he was is proof to my eyes at least that this is becoming the case(pretty sure that at least two of the other people on him were town, so scum could have possibly mislynched him if they wanted to, and yet he lived.) I'm happy where I stand, but if anyone wants me to take an in depth look at any other case I'll do what I can. Moving on to other matters. The Vivax Rayn war. At this point I'm resolved to ignore whatever Mocsta says, hes acting pretty childish and I dont think thats townish or scummish. Rayn on the other hand I'm kinda sure is town, when hes scum Rayn tends to never let go of things because hes afraid of looking flip floppy. This game though Rayn's been putting on alot of pressure but has been willing to back off several times over because he actually wants to lynch scum and not townies who provide him opportunities to ensure mislynches. Vivax also looks townie, but it is possible for him to be scum if the reason for him starting a fire in the thread was that he was trying to take the heat of Matt. Notice the tone in this post, the first on in which he demonstrated suspicion of Rayn. Oh s hit I think ran moc might be scum. Thrawn looks bad also. it sounds kinda doubtful, (also funny to note how Vivax comes to the conclusion that Thrawn looks bad just before hes shot, in hindsight it makes him look quite good / :, as in why would he ever shoot Thrawn if he was planning on lynching him? That would be crazy...) after that post he calls out Jar Jar a bit, decrees captain town(rob)to be town, then leaves, promising reasons for his reads upon his return. When he does come back he is completely resolved. mocsta/rayn scum you heard it here first. owned once again mocsta. At this point in the game Vivax's/ Kush's (or whatever you wanna call it) posting completely changes, it goes from reasoned and inquisitive to inflammatory and derogatory. All without an actual argument for what seems like an eternity. theres at least a page of posts like this. hmm rayn why did you get so mad? ur caught son. i owned you with my superior mafia skills. actually rayn, this game i caught you because of YOUR terrible play, not mocstas The goal of the game isnt to convince scum that they're scum, it's to convince the rest of town. Vivax is doing his case no favours here. Which makes me suspect that his immediate goal wasn't to get Rayn lynched. Eventually Vivax calms down and stops posting like a lunatic, but only after my case on Matt has lost a great deal of momentum. If we consider them partners, then what better way for Vivax to take the heat off Matt than by shitting up the thread. In fact he only started acting like an ass a few hours after my case was posted, before then his tone suggested that he was just suspicious of Rayn, not certain of his guilt. Hes probably just being a dick and I definitely would not lynch him before Matt, but when Matt comes back red, It wouldn't be a bad idea to take a long look at this most ravenous of hydras. Next up, Bumatlarge. His only noteworthy post since the day 1 lynch. Bum: Let's chat mord. I probably did get too hung up on Round, but I did everything I could to get a better understanding of ShiaoPi's play this game. No one questioned his views from a town standpoint, and i think you can see why I was trying to stall the lynch on him by the other post you call me scummy for. Nothing I did indicated I knew anything about ShiaoPi's alignment, and I have him every opportunity to explain himself. I'll take the blame for lynching a townie, but what ou are looking for in my posts require assumptions about my alignment. Look at my reasoning from a town viewpoint, and I can guarantee it makes sense. I'll answer anything I missed if you want. I'm going to try to figure out Matthew, but it may take me some time to do him justice. I suggest going slow again this cycle. This post is one of reconciliation self defense and diffiusal, he provides no new reads whatsoever, and promises to look at the Matt case, but never does... Bum effectively sealed the Shiapi lynch and since then hes done nothing for town. Oh but he sure does sound sorry ) : Probably the second scummer. Mord: Has been pretty active since coming back, would like to hear from him on someone other than Bum though, because as much as I too have my suspicions of Bum, I dont think the case against him is good enough to warrant full on tunneling. I honestly had Mord pegged as scum coming into day 2 but im upgrading him to null in hopes that he keeps contributing and makes his true allegiances clear. Finally: Grack Sidespring and Jar Jar: Have these guys together as null because they might all be townie or scummie for pretty much the same reason, and that reason is derp ) : a flip on one of these guys could come up purple for all we know. I probably wouldn't lynch any of them before Matt. Anyone have any questions for me? | ||
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Grackaroni
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VIVAX420
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On February 20 2014 08:25 VIVAX420 wrote: Gumshoe. You quote Kush when you mention the inflammatoy part. Please refer to us as kushax or something like that. I don't want people to think that that was me (which makes the change of tone a change of player) Then sign your name please. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On February 20 2014 08:25 VIVAX420 wrote: Gumshoe. You quote Kush when you mention the inflammatoy part. Please refer to us as kushax or something like that. I don't want people to think that that was me (which makes the change of tone a change of player) Even if Kush doesnt do it, so long as you do I can tell between you guys, otherwise yah cant complain If I consider you an archon. | ||
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VIVAX420
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VIVAX420
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lynch plz | ||
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Grackaroni
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bumatlarge
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Hydras dont have to sign shit, im kinda surprised they were. | ||
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VIVAX420
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VIVAX420
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Grackaroni
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On February 20 2014 10:26 bumatlarge wrote: I am totally here and not busy or anything. Hydras dont have to sign shit, im kinda surprised they were. Of all the fucking things you felt the need to comment on coming back it's this!? Ok bum, hydras don't have to sign and can feel free to get offended when they're treated as an individual, no problem, your super duper right. Now who the fuck is scum? Specifically what do you think about Matt, mordanis and jar jar. | ||
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VIVAX420
556 Posts
On February 20 2014 10:41 Grackaroni wrote: Kush started capitalizing his posts earlier. It really made things confusing. sorry it was because i was on my phone | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On February 20 2014 10:47 gumshoe wrote: Of all the fucking things you felt the need to comment on coming back it's this!? Ok bum, hydras don't have to sign and can feel free to get offended when they're treated as an individual, no problem, your super duper right. Now who the fuck is scum? Specifically what do you think about Matt, mordanis and jar jar. MEGASALT mordanis is chill, other two not so much. What about the sprangside? I feel good about him being scum. I don't feel like putting more effort into my reads, so I'm not going to. Sorry! | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On February 20 2014 11:01 bumatlarge wrote: MEGASALT mordanis is chill, other two not so much. What about the sprangside? I feel good about him being scum. I don't feel like putting more effort into my reads, so I'm not going to. Sorry! You bastard T-T. Whelp can't force you to post, but you better not make us lynch you if your actually town. I too am not inspired by side sprang's play but unlike Matt I think he might actually end up posting now that he's come under pressure. so I'll wait on that. | ||
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