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On February 14 2014 03:17 VIVAX420 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2014 03:11 roundabound wrote:On February 14 2014 02:57 VIVAX420 wrote:Well what I don't like about Mordanis is the fact that he doesn't seem the least bit suspicious about thrawn. When a guy is lurking and posting nonsense you would actually want him to post more and better stuff so you can get a read on him. Hence I can't explain from a town pov why he doesn't want thrawn to be pressured, and thrawn himself already pointed out:
Mordanis could be scum, his suspicions of vivax/robik look like they stem from him having knowledge of my alignment. He's suspicious of people because of their suspicions of a townie which is classic fake-scumhunting.
Well this is a terrible post. First of all how is it possible that you are suspicious of thrawn and then you agree with him because what he says is "Mordanis could be scum because i am town and he does not seem to be trying to find out if i am town or not". Noone but thrawn can agree with what he says, because if you are not thrawn and town you can't know thrawn's alignement. Second, there is absolutely nothing that was scummy in thrawns posting at that time. Your case was fucking bad, you can't possibly think someone is "lurking" or "playing to his scum meta" based on one hour of the game. I don't even care if it's Vivax or kush posting but that's so fucking ridiculous if you are going to push anything based on that you are mafia and we lynch you. So, was your case on thrawn good or not? ~rayn I already explained that I see meta as a valid method of finding out if he's scum, cause of the strong impression I got from that game where iamp managed to lynch a scummer D1 merely going off that. Besides, now my read on thrawn has shifted to town cause of the observation about Mordanis he made (which I just quoted), which is insight I would expect from a townie. Rayn, can you please comment on the other guys I wrote about? Do you think those are good points? (ShiaoPi, roundabout)
well for starers i think rounabound is town.
seriously wtf are you guys doing?
~rayn
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On February 14 2014 01:52 VIVAX420 wrote:
THe point Mocsta made on QP is also good. Waiting for him to kinda justify his lack of inquisiveness.
~V
Another thing. Elaborate on this plz. What points Mocsta made that are good?
~rayn
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So here is what has been going on:
Robik: "thrawn mafia"
VIVAX: "Here is this shit case on thrawn"
Mordanis: "Robik and VIVAX deserve to be looked at because of this thrawn thing" (later on not Robik so much)
VIVAX: "Mordanis so scummy because he called us out"
roundabound: "why? your case is shit, why is it scummy to call it out? do you think the case is good?"
VIVAX: "no the case was bad, Mordanis still scummy because of it. You are tunneling, go do something else".
Explain to me how does this make any sense?
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Is it not? Then what's this?
On February 14 2014 02:57 VIVAX420 wrote:Well what I don't like about Mordanis is the fact that he doesn't seem the least bit suspicious about thrawn. When a guy is lurking and posting nonsense you would actually want him to post more and better stuff so you can get a read on him. Hence I can't explain from a town pov why he doesn't want thrawn to be pressured, and thrawn himself already pointed out: Show nested quote +
Mordanis could be scum, his suspicions of vivax/robik look like they stem from him having knowledge of my alignment. He's suspicious of people because of their suspicions of a townie which is classic fake-scumhunting.
Because what i read here is "he disagreed with my case". Otherwise you should be calling me mafia too for not calling out thrawn for "lurking", Why are you not calling me scum then if this is why you find him suspicious?
~rayn
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like you fucking asked me if i wanted to lynch thrawn or not. why was that?
~rayn
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On February 14 2014 02:24 Grackaroni wrote:
I agree. I bet my teammates would be attacking me in thread. I have a knack for pissing them off.
chortle
~moc
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On February 14 2014 02:26 sidesprang wrote:
You dont think it would be dumb to lynch this early ? On February 14 2014 02:28 Mattchew wrote:
nope, gives us information, allows roles to stay more hidden while having information to work from I disagree respectfully.
Lynching scum >>>> perceived information.
The way to play IML is to not rush into lynches, we have the benefit of time to force contributions.
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On February 14 2014 06:15 Grackaroni wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kjK5Zbo.png)
Well god dang it
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~moc
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On February 14 2014 06:37 VIVAX420 wrote:
Still waiting for opinions on Shiao and sidesprang.~V
Agreed
An interesting observation with sidesprang was the need to repeatedly interject when he is discussed, but not contribute to anything further.
Originally I thought the first interjection was nullish, as both town and scum have a need to cock-block points against them.
Its the act of "active-lurking" that i do not appreciate as a town trait.
Still waiting on DoNotPanic
QP response to the reads on him was acceptable in my opinion.
I would like to see his mindset on others items in the thread though. Even if scum was Mattchew+IAR; thats only 2 of 3.
~moc
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@JJD
I had a quick skim of 2 scum games
(Les Mis) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410972&user=JarJarDrinks&view=all
(Bluelightz) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420356&user=JarJarDrinks&view=all
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(This game) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=441596&user=jarjardrinks
I give weight to bluelights the most, as that is your most recent game, thus, most experience as scum.
I note very similar entrances:
On July 21 2013 15:20 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Tofu is who I'm most suspicious of right now. His first post sounds like he was just trying to say the towniest thing he could think of.
<followed by reasoning>
On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it.
<Followed by reasoning>
As you noted, in bluelights you have no qualms slinging back n forth with "scum reads" so passivity is not necessarily indicative of alignment for you.
Where I give you town credit from Bluelights is that, I have not noticed you actively +1 people (read 80% of the filter) - which is occuring a lot in this game. Instead, all your scumreads were self-generated pushes. I will prob check through Les Mis a bit later on for this as well.
Essentially, based on meta I have you @ null.
Based on this game, I am still finding you posting actively "safe" <-- which you yourself declared as a scum tell.
Right now, Im perplexing whether you are just in total agreement with IAR and feel the need to post in general (which defies my BttB town meta of you); or whether you are scum trying to buddy up.
In short: I dont expect you to always be the originator of a read.
But, I dont get how you can agree with so many reads, yet, not cast a vote; or progress any of these reads further.
~moc
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On February 14 2014 10:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2014 09:45 roundabound wrote:
But, I dont get how you can agree with so many reads, yet, not cast a vote; or progress any of these reads further.
Because the people I'm suspicious of haven't been posting. There's only so much I can do w/ the posts so far. @ this point, I think we should vote off the scummiest looking lurker.
Who would that be if we lunches right now?
~moc
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I was expecting you to list grack.
~moc
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I'm bored grack
Can I bus you?
~moc
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On February 14 2014 11:33 VIVAX420 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2014 11:24 Grackaroni wrote:On February 14 2014 11:16 VIVAX420 wrote:
grack is confirmed town Because of the seal? yeah 100% because of the seal
$1.99 well spent.
Fun fact.
Coag has had a 3some.
Unknown whether any females were involved.
~moc
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So....
How long we give DNP before a hammer?its been what 24hrs with no retort??
~moc
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On February 14 2014 11:39 VIVAX420 wrote:
let dnp get modkilled imo if that's his thing..
how do you know coag had a threesome? details plz
Dnp won't get mod killed. He posted.
Only mod kill. Job is gumshoe I believe.
Coag told me on voice chat Lol.
~moc
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On February 14 2014 12:03 VIVAX420 wrote:
moc do you think it would be smart to lynch DNP with 1 post?
At 24hrs no response, no.
Its more complicated than that though.
The issue isn't 1 post. Its the intent of that 1 post.
Regardless a normal lynch is 48hrs. I see no need to rush a lynch quicker than this.
~moc
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On February 14 2014 12:53 VIVAX420 wrote:
huh?? what is the intent of his one post. i think it was a valid observation and I was thinking the same thing myself...
why the fuck is rayn pushing the most obvious town in the game.
I've already commented about it
U appear to be reading past interactions with current knowledge/opinions.
No bueno.
~moc
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On February 14 2014 12:59 thrawn2112 wrote:
robik is gonna have a heart attack after reading the last few pages
Y?
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On February 14 2014 13:00 VIVAX420 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2014 12:58 roundabound wrote:On February 14 2014 12:53 VIVAX420 wrote:
huh?? what is the intent of his one post. i think it was a valid observation and I was thinking the same thing myself...
why the fuck is rayn pushing the most obvious town in the game. U appear to be reading past interactions with current knowledge/opinions. i dont recall you commenting on it. but what do you mean by that about reading past interactions with current knowledge. I actualyl thought rob was more town back then than i do now.
I commented on it and voted him....
I'm on phone so too hard to quote. Try page 3 of filter I suppose.
As for the second bit.
In my opinion rob has gotten townier as the game progressed hence my comment.
I suppose this is all subjective.
I'm curious to why he has dropped for u. Is it because of grack?
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