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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 14 2014 03:09 GMT
#622
On February 14 2014 12:03 VIVAX420 wrote:
moc do you think it would be smart to lynch DNP with 1 post?

u scurred?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 14 2014 06:10 GMT
#647
On February 14 2014 15:08 DoNotPanic! wrote:
All finished. I'll try to be as comprehensive as I can with this, so this may turn up pretty long by the time I'm done.

Townies:
Roundaboud
IamRobik
Thrawn
Vivax420

The first three should be self-explanatory and fairly non-controversial at this stage. All are active and clearly care about generating thread activity and pushing pro-town objectives. Thrawn is the least active of the bunch, but his early interaction with IamRobik is very townie, and is something he's done in past games. He frequently likes to draw attention onto himself in the early-game to start discussion (see his self-aware miller "claim" in Hero Mini Mafia - a game without self-aware millers), whereas his scum-games tend to be much more serious in tone (and lurky).

Vivax420 might require some explanation. Simply, his attitude towards me has been correct and very townie. This post is a prime example:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 14:22 VIVAX420 wrote:
until he talks more, he's bh's problem not ours. There is really no point in wasting a lynch on someone who is going to be dealt with anyway.


He understands that a player in my position (1 post in 24 hours, generally afk from the thread) is not worth wasting discussion on or worth wasting a lynch on. Wheras mafia are far more incentivized to try and push a lurker lynch here, and want to waste lynches on players like me.

After this, there's a very broad category of players I'm not quite sure about...

Null
Mattchew
Grackaroni
QuantumPope
Mattchew
Mordanis
sidesprang

I have slight town-reads on some of these players, but I'd rather not elaborate on them. Simply put, these weak town reads I feel would create more harm than good, and make players jump to conclusions. None of these players have much in their filters worth drawing conclusions from. The exception may be Grackaroni (as he's been active and chaotic in-thread), but I feel that I wouldn't be able to accurately read a player like him (spammy) without a full look at his meta.

I can elaborate if asked to do so, but I'd rather field questions about my scumreads:

Mafia
ShaioPi
JarJarDrinks

I would lynch ShaioPi for this post alone:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:36 ShiaoPi wrote:
wanna kill the abomination known as vivax/kush hydra? I am feeling really itchy...
#Vote:VIVAX420


It was made on page 18 of the thread. Actual discussion was taking place, and it is far too late for joke votes. However it is clearly not a 100% serious vote.

The main problem I have with this post is that it's sole purpose is to antagonize, as opposed to do anything constructive. There is no purpose to this vote other than to insinuate a negative opinion of vivax/kush. Futhermore, this is very uncharacteristic for a town ShaioPi, who's generally a very polite and constructive player.

Combined with the uselessness of the rest of his filter, he's a very strong mafia read for me.

JarJarDrinks also made a very highly suspect post:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 01:03 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 14 2014 00:53 roundabound wrote:
Is DNP a person of suspicion or not...
Yes. would lynch

On February 14 2014 00:28 roundabound wrote:
I have seen plenty of town only discuss setup early game; you have failed to elucidate me towards why this tell is only indicative of a mafia mindset.
scummy <> only indicative of a mafia mindset. You read DNP as scum because he made 1 shitty post and then peaced. I have seen plenty of town make 1 shitty post and go awol for a while. Can you tell me why this tell is only indicative of a mafia mindset?

On February 14 2014 00:28 roundabound wrote:
So what is the outcome?
Are you keeping Sidesprang/Mattchew as a scum team; or are you rescinding a read?
Uh neither. I think they are both scummy but I think it's unlikely that they are both scum together. Is something wrong w/ that?


He first expresses a willingness to lynch me in the first part of his post. However, he them criticizes roundabound's case on me, saying that he's seen townies do what I do, and suggests it's not allignment indicative.

This post essentially shows that JarJar is willing to lynch a player for reasons *other* than that player being mafia - an incredibly mafia motivated mindset.

Then despite his criticism of roundabout's "case" on me, he posts this:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 14:10 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 14 2014 12:03 VIVAX420 wrote:
moc do you think it would be smart to lynch DNP with 1 post?
I think we should definitely consider it. Like he makes 1 post, people jump on him about it and he disappears? Maybe he's scurd.

Like, If he was scum and could get through the entire first day lynch free w/o posting anything else, why wouldn't he?


What he was calling non-alignment indicative before, he's now calling scummy for some really wierd speculative reasons. I find it hard to explain this change in mentality, and I think the most plausible explanation is that he forgot about his earlier push and is trying to push a lynch mindlessly.

Lastly, there's this string of two posts...
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 10:51 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 14 2014 10:42 roundabound wrote:
On February 14 2014 10:37 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 14 2014 09:45 roundabound wrote:
But, I dont get how you can agree with so many reads, yet, not cast a vote; or progress any of these reads further.
Because the people I'm suspicious of haven't been posting. There's only so much I can do w/ the posts so far. @ this point, I think we should vote off the scummiest looking lurker.

Who would that be if we lunches right now?

~moc
DNP would be fine w/ me. ShiaoPi also.

Still don't like sidespring who's kinda lurking but he's right that I attacked him a bunch in the last game and we were both town so I'm gonna back off a bit.

I'd rather give people more of a chance to post though before we go ahead and lynch them.

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 11:10 JarJarDrinks wrote:
sure grack too


...which reads a lot like "meh, i'll lynch anyone."

i'll sheep this other than jarjar
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 15 2014 01:01 GMT
#771
i am ok with lynching grack side or shiao
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 15 2014 04:36 GMT
#776
On February 15 2014 10:20 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 10:01 Mattchew wrote:
i am ok with lynching grack side or shiao


Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 02:17 Mattchew wrote:
I don't think that grack and side are the same alignment


Matt?

~V

(Besides, why Grack?)

meh i could be convinced just the 2 s's
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 15 2014 07:10 GMT
#780
re-read, shiapi best lynch today

sidesprang usually is super serious as mafia, this game he was willing to have funsies so maybe let him live
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 15 2014 16:33 GMT
#804
On February 15 2014 23:04 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 01:45 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Yeah actually I agree w/ irobot. What Grack is doing is worse than lurking because he obviously has been around since he's been posting. But all he's done is basically troll the thread so far.

##Vote Grackaroni

Start giving reads/analysis/something


This is what I meant when I said "JJD has done nothing except to say he wants to kill people for reasons that don't have anything to do with lynching mafia." His whole filter is like that. When he talks about who he;s ok with lynching he only talks about lurker policy, or in grack's case troll policy lynching. JJD doesn't care at all about finding and lynching mafia.

JarJar, can you please say if you are suspicious of anyone who isn't a lurker/troll?

vote shiaopi
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 15 2014 20:49 GMT
#815
wtf why are people bouncing off shiaopi, hasnt this day gone on long enough
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 15 2014 23:18 GMT
#818
On February 16 2014 08:15 VIVAX420 wrote:
nooo just lynch the bitch

word homey
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2014 06:43 GMT
#862
yeah is this a joke?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2014 16:23 GMT
#967
rayn i dont think sidesprang is mafia, in past games he is super serious as mafia and this game he seems pretty loose at the beginning willing to troll and joke around.

Also, that was some bullshit mocsta pulled, fucking awful play from either alignment and policy lynching you guys is what I want to do, but is not the way to lynch scum imo, cause i think your town

Gumshoe is interesting, I am trying to refrain from knee-jerk calling him scum

So far the people I am ok with dying are Shiaopi, Mordanis, Thrawn and maybe like Grack/Gum/QP
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2014 16:42 GMT
#972
On February 17 2014 01:39 roundabound wrote:
Actually a serious question Mattchew; Do you even read what people's posts say and do you think why do they say what they do?

~rayn

i have my way of getting reads, you have yours, if you want to insult my reads you better be damn sure yours are correct
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 16 2014 18:16 GMT
#979
On February 17 2014 02:26 roundabound wrote:
Well if you don't give a shit who gets lynched then we lynch you.

~rayn

then lynch me, this game is going no where
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 18 2014 04:16 GMT
#1076
mordanis and gumshoe would be great lynches
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 20 2014 04:49 GMT
#1534
I hate excuse posts, I will (try my fucking hardest to) post more in the future, but not tonight
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 21 2014 08:20 GMT
#1622
I will not be able to post enough to warrant not getting modkilled, so lynching me will avoid 2 town deaths should I die like that and a mislynch occur.

my reads are gumshoe, mordanis as mafia

robik, moc/rayn, vivax420, sidesprang, jarjar as town. jarjar being the weakest read
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 21 2014 16:58 GMT
#1652
Vivax your case rules, gumshoe is mafia as fuck
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 21 2014 16:58 GMT
#1653
Lynch him after me
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 21 2014 22:06 GMT
#1700
As i said before, I am going to get modkilled, and I believe someone replacing me at this point would be unjust to the game. Instead me dying to a lynch and preventing 2 town deaths in the event of a modkill on me and a mislynch seems optimal.

sorry I was unable to play in this game to anywhere near a standard that I would have liked to.

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 21 2014 23:07 GMT
#1711
fuck uh, do we lose if im town?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 22 2014 00:11 GMT
#1722
ok well then i ask you iamrobik, as one of my top towns, to please lynch me. I will be modkilled if not lynched and that will put town even further behind. even if i am not mod killed or lynched today, i will not be able to defend myself properly and will be mislynched at what seems to be a more crucial time
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
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