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roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 03:26 GMT
#1323
Like your arguments are HUGE stretches and misreprestentations and that's fucking bad Vivax.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 03:29 GMT
#1324
On February 19 2014 12:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it.

And I really don't like that thinks its scummy that vivax would question it:
On February 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Additionally, your post questioning it is awkward. If someone calls me town I'd be happy as all hell. It's d1. Who gives a damn really on any sort of rationalizaiton.

That's like the opposite of how a townie should think. If someone gives you a townread for no good reason, how do you not immediately get suspicious of that person?


On February 13 2014 06:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
2) I don't think that's the opposite of how town should think. If people have reads that they want to keep to themselves for the time being that's fine. If people want to put out reads just to promote conversation that's fine too. If I'm called town I'm thrilled. I'm town. I know I'm town. If someone else that's town realizes I'm town, that's one less person that I need to convince and 1 less mislynch that town wastes.

Unless that person is scum of course. Like you say "If someone else that's town realizes I'm town" well how would you know that person is town? You wouldn't of course. And when the reasoning is terrible (ie: like urs was) it should immediately raise ur eyebrows.


On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:
k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play.

I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.

Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this:
On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back
I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him.

I think these first 3 quotes in JJD's filter are rather scummy. The first thing he does is attack Robik alongside Rayn, and then when the thread comes to the conclusion that Robik is town he comes back and says he thinks Robik is just bad and that he suspects Rayn for attacking Robik. I don't really understand this from a town POV because earlier he thought that Robik was suspicious, so Rayn pushing him should still feel justified and shouldn't have felt like Rayn was just looking to find something to jump on.
Rayn was like totally all over Irubik, making a ton of posts, calling him scum, and eventually voting for him. All I did was question a few of his posts.


I mean, u really think it's scummy to have my first bunch of posts attack the 2 most active posters?

What does the bolded part have to do with anything? Why would it be a town/scumtell to attack someone based on their quantity of posts?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 03:42 GMT
#1327
On February 19 2014 12:34 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 12:29 roundabound wrote:
On February 19 2014 12:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 19 2014 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it.

And I really don't like that thinks its scummy that vivax would question it:
On February 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Additionally, your post questioning it is awkward. If someone calls me town I'd be happy as all hell. It's d1. Who gives a damn really on any sort of rationalizaiton.

That's like the opposite of how a townie should think. If someone gives you a townread for no good reason, how do you not immediately get suspicious of that person?


On February 13 2014 06:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
2) I don't think that's the opposite of how town should think. If people have reads that they want to keep to themselves for the time being that's fine. If people want to put out reads just to promote conversation that's fine too. If I'm called town I'm thrilled. I'm town. I know I'm town. If someone else that's town realizes I'm town, that's one less person that I need to convince and 1 less mislynch that town wastes.

Unless that person is scum of course. Like you say "If someone else that's town realizes I'm town" well how would you know that person is town? You wouldn't of course. And when the reasoning is terrible (ie: like urs was) it should immediately raise ur eyebrows.


On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:
k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play.

I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.

Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this:
On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back
I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him.

I think these first 3 quotes in JJD's filter are rather scummy. The first thing he does is attack Robik alongside Rayn, and then when the thread comes to the conclusion that Robik is town he comes back and says he thinks Robik is just bad and that he suspects Rayn for attacking Robik. I don't really understand this from a town POV because earlier he thought that Robik was suspicious, so Rayn pushing him should still feel justified and shouldn't have felt like Rayn was just looking to find something to jump on.
Rayn was like totally all over Irubik, making a ton of posts, calling him scum, and eventually voting for him. All I did was question a few of his posts.


I mean, u really think it's scummy to have my first bunch of posts attack the 2 most active posters?

What does the bolded part have to do with anything? Why would it be a town/scumtell to attack someone based on their quantity of posts?

~rayn
IDK, I'd think scum would attempt to pick on the weaker, lurkier players.

If you acknowledge this isn't it natural to not use it to defend yourself instead of addressing the argument itself?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 03:59 GMT
#1332
On February 19 2014 12:23 VIVAX420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 11:47 roundabound wrote:
Vivax

I have noticed this game you refuse to take a firm position on anything.

Instead you put out some musings and let others carry the work load for you

This pattern is repeating again.



I'm hesitant to lynching when there are so many unknown alignments. Kush put the vote after I unvoted. Thrawn pretty much knew how to play IML. Lengthen the days, increase the time town has. You prefer to opt for quick lynches and get frustrated with no occurring lynches even when there are so many options for people being scum.

Besides, you might want to get to the point with your made observations. Do you suspect me of being scum or is this just something you wrote as offensive defense.

~V

This is a very poor ideology to hide behind and justify actions.

Lengthened days are only worthwhile if meaningful contributions are being made. Cases discussed, votes analysed. Despite rayn and I best attempts to generate and foster this type of discussion, the thread transpired into a lurk fest.

There is zero benefit to extending day 1 in particular with this type of environment. Everyone gets bored including die hard townies and vote analysis becomes excruciatingly difficult when the whole game doesn't care anymore. The above reads to me that you were content with nothing moving and if scum I don't blame you when town commonly thought you were town.....

And I note the irony of your point about getting to the point. Tell me vivax. Were you planning conclude your own observation?? I.e. cross reference the shiaopi votes and my claim finding yourself, or do you expect others to do the leg work for you?


~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 04:23 GMT
#1337
On February 19 2014 13:10 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 13:09 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 19 2014 12:59 Grackaroni wrote:
If I were to start posting a lot of content now do you think others should view you with suspicion for attacking my earlier posts?
If you did something that made you look like like you were very likely town then hell yeah people should suspect me for attacking a townie. You really disagree w/ that?

Ok - initiating townie mode.

U posted the seal already.

How do u get townier than that??

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 04:59 GMT
#1340
On February 19 2014 13:49 Mordanis wrote:
Hey Grack and Round (and anyone else who's around)
How do you feel about bum?

I'm concerned he hasn't posted anything meaningful in a while.

Basically someone I'm paying attention to but not a priority on my list

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 13:23 GMT
#1344
Lol.

There is only one flip and you are espousing the quality of scum reads....

Lol

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 13:23 GMT
#1345
yeah because the dude hasn't said shit after D1. Don't call it artificial. Also answer me why are you making bullshit arguments against us? I am not here to tell you why i am town, i am here to figure out and tell why people are mafia.

It's YOU whose arguments are artificial and pure shit. Do you realize it's impossible to make any DETAILED analysis on people who have said nothing at all all game? I am not going to twist information into look like something it's not when there is nothing, that's what you do kush. Cut the crap already.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 13:25 GMT
#1346
If our depth of scum reads is the base line and is zero.

Your depth is negative....

You dies a day1 case, yet since then there has been no new content

Keep trying kush, I'm enjoying the laughs

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 13:27 GMT
#1348
Far outrayn we are I sync,lol

Andppl have the audacity to question our towniness lol

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 13:28 GMT
#1349
On February 19 2014 22:26 VIVAX420 wrote:
quality of your scumreads has nothing to do with how right htey are. everything to do with the reasons behind them.

Lol so scumif correct
Andscumif wrong

Well done

~moc

Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 15:23 GMT
#1352
Gongratulations, you have just called everyone in this game mafia in last 2 days.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 15:30 GMT
#1355
On February 20 2014 00:23 roundabound wrote:
Gongratulations, you have just called everyone in this game mafia in last 2 days.

~rayn

Dont worry about them.

When Kush wakes up he will realise all the *shite* filters he was reading were his own.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 15:33 GMT
#1356
Yeah well i want to lynch Mattchew still.
Grack what do you think? How sure are you JJD is scum?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 15:38 GMT
#1360
On February 20 2014 00:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 00:33 roundabound wrote:
Yeah well i want to lynch Mattchew still.
Grack what do you think? How sure are you JJD is scum?

~rayn

Not really sure. I'm fine with a Mattchew lynch. Game is hard.

mattchew is good

nothin robik or kush has said mitigates the case

lets not have a repeat of the survivir game
(i.e lynch koshi >>hf/kei)

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 15:38 GMT
#1361
On February 20 2014 00:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I think what people complaining about ending the day quickly don't realize is that we could drag this on for 10 more days and have no more clue what to do. You get information when townies are motivated to post. No amount of time will change that.

amen

which is what happened day1..............

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 15:39 GMT
#1362
robik

how many wanks are u planning to max out on b4 giving up on masttchew?

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 16:03 GMT
#1372
On February 20 2014 00:59 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 00:55 VIVAX420 wrote:
Before mocsta said 4/6 is not a quick lynch. He said if scum want to hammer, they can. Nothing has changed. Matt still mia. Yet now mocsta wants quick lynch.

Lynching someone who is mia is completely ridiculous.

No shit it's ridiculous. That's why I screamed for like 5 posts about how everyone should unvote cause it was too damn close. But there were 4 votes on there and there are only 3 mafia in the game. So AT LEAST one town is on that list of people who are trying to quick-lynch, so it's not out of this realm to think it's roundabound. I'd also say that I think that mafia would be scared shitless to hammer that vote, which may be why it stalled out at 4. I'll look into that later. For now, I want to focus on this shiaopi vote from yesterday.
This is a poor heuristic Robik.

There are a plethora of reasons why a hammer did not occur.
Of highest degree of certainty: they were genuine pressure votes.

Alternatively, a refined extension of your theory is that if scum wanted to hammer Matt, they were simply AFK which is how the game has gone start to finish so far.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 16:03 GMT
#1373
On February 20 2014 00:58 VIVAX420 wrote:
Rob They both are very active mafia.

And both very active town.

But keep on flipping the coin with only tails on it.

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 19 2014 16:04 GMT
#1374
Yeah let's not vote for anyone, ever. That pressures everyone to contribute.
I am so fucking done with this shit game.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
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