Normal Mini Mafia: Episode I

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kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 21 2014 13:13 GMT

#633

On January 21 2014 14:18 bumatlarge wrote:
##unvote

You win. I'm not going to pursue this charade if no one else finds it worth while.

So you admit it's a charade?

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 21 2014 13:17 GMT

#634

Barristan you never answered what looked town about bum that excuses him from that scum slip

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 21 2014 13:28 GMT

#637

That last post seems more honest than scummy

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 21 2014 14:06 GMT

#649

suki it feels like what you are going to do is some plan you've layed out for yourself, rather than being based on ideas you are having.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 21 2014 14:17 GMT

#654

On January 21 2014 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP:
Like if he is town, he really thinks his points against VE make him mafia (at least thought so), and he can explain the logic behind them.

I see what you are saying. You want him to say why each of these points make someone mafia?
But he is saying why it makes VE scum.

It's easy to attack someone for being obviously contradictory without actually calling them scummy, and that's what he did

He is saying that these things he is doing are easy to do as scum. The traits he is pointing out are more commonly seen in scum.

On January 21 2014 03:46 zarepath wrote:
I am thinking VE is scummy based off of a few things:

1. Lots of early discussion about the two plans
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He talked a lot about the two plans and asked others about them, and said so many things about them that people were mixing up which plan he was talking about. Not necessarily scummy in and of itself, but a very easy topic to talk about if you don't actually want to start making reads on people

2. Immediate attack on Wiley for blue claiming
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This seemed like another very easy thing to do, but in his accusation he doesn't really explain why it's scummy, just that "it's all bad." It's easy to attack someone for being obviously contradictory without actually calling them scummy, and that's what he did.

On January 20 2014 14:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
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His little act about not knowing what a boxer is does not really jive with the claim. Add to that the fact that he claimed 5 hours into the game after being very clear about how he feels about boxers claiming, and it all just looks bad.

I also dislike the sentationalism in this, "his little act," etc., especially in combination with a lack of explanation as to why this means he's scum. It reminds me of Mocsta scum from when I played with him a year ago.

3. Defensive tone

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On January 20 2014 12:09 VisceraEyes wrote:

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I don't understand the question. Or the accusation.

On January 20 2014 22:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
There isn't much to them. After reading through I can at least say that he weakly agrees that I look bad (though I don't know why) and he believes the boxer claim and he thinks other boxers should not claim.

I wouldn't mind some elaboration on his issue with me.

On January 20 2014 22:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kish look me in the balls and tell me you don't think that as town if I don't believe a claim that I wouldn't vote for it if I think it is scum.

It is not dumb for scum to claim Named VT, they are supposed to claim SOMETHING other than Mafia, yes?

On January 20 2014 23:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ski I'm literally ignoring your posts friend. If you have an actual accusation I'll respond to that.

4. Wishy-washy demeanor

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On January 20 2014 09:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm KINDA okay with Boxers claiming.

On January 20 2014 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah I'm mostly indifferent to the matter. I can see the argument for it not being needed and it giving scum information, but I think it could help us in the future by 1) eliminating scum's ability to fake-claim it on the block and 2) forcing scum to decide now whether they want to fake-claim the role.

On January 20 2014 11:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm giving benefit of the doubt where that its concerned...I had to go look again at the setup to remember myself when it was first mentioned.

5. Wants others to discuss things, not himself

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On January 20 2014 11:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
It does NOT matter if scum figure out the setup before town does...in fact given the nature of this game that is pretty much a given. What DOES matter it's that we not tell them exactly what it is ON DAY ONE BEFORE WE GET ANY INFO OURSELVES, which is very possible if we have boxers claim.

Is it worth the risk? I'm starting to think not, but want other opinions.

Yes, let's talk MORE about these plans

On January 20 2014 22:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kish I'm open to suggestions. If you think someone is a better lynch then convince me. Its called playing Mafia! :D

On January 20 2014 23:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
What do you think of bum kush? I liked rayns post on the matter, and agree he looks bad. What do you think?

Note the lack of reasoning for his agreement, but the suggestion that others should talk about it

6. "Giving up" on his Wiley scum read and switching to a more convenient target

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On January 20 2014 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think the timing is such that it is more likely to be a scum fakeclaim than town, but I'm not 100% sold on it. The more we talk about it, the more I can see a townie just not caring what he said earlier, and I guess it's less likely that scum would do something completely against what they previously went on record saying.

I can give Slam more time I guess.

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Read: The more people disagree with me, the more I think I should stop pushing for his lynch. I will now randomly vote for someone somebody else made a case on without any further reasoning.

Note that the entirety of this post is actually justifying why he is no longer voting for Wiley, and not at ALL why he is now voting for bumatlarge.

VE is scummy in tone, content, and voting patterns, and my top scum read now.

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kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 21 2014 14:34 GMT

#661

suki that seems legit to me. if he tries hard as scum, not trying hard is not an indication of scum

rayn lol that doesn't stop my defense of zarepath from being right.

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 21 2014 14:38 GMT

#663

rayn i like talking to you about who is scum. why do you have to get all mad

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 21 2014 14:39 GMT

#664

we are like cigs and weed, we go well together

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 21 2014 14:43 GMT

#666

no im saying why your argument why he's scum isn't valid

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 21 2014 14:51 GMT

#671

rayn i quoted reasoning he gave why ve was scum.
he did give a lot of evidence, more than any other case. the problem is none of it was that strong. and his play has reflected that

kushm4sta

United States8878 Posts

January 21 2014 15:07 GMT

#676

On January 22 2014 00:06 suki wrote:
kush just saying Zarepath's points 3, 4 and 5 really sound like he tried to find any quote from VE that fit the description and post it.

It sounds like he's really stretching to label VE as scummy and that's not a townie thing to do.

buthe admits to doing that lol