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On January 21 2014 06:37 kushm4sta wrote: How much experience does zreapth have I'd say ~7 games on TL. | ||
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On January 21 2014 06:39 kushm4sta wrote: Is ! Not equal or equal? i tend to write alignment!player when i want to say someone is mafia-playername or town-playername. | ||
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On January 21 2014 03:46 zarepath wrote: I am thinking VE is scummy based off of a few things: 1. Lots of early discussion about the two plans + Show Spoiler + He talked a lot about the two plans and asked others about them, and said so many things about them that people were mixing up which plan he was talking about. Not necessarily scummy in and of itself, but a very easy topic to talk about if you don't actually want to start making reads on people 2. Immediate attack on Wiley for blue claiming + Show Spoiler + This seemed like another very easy thing to do, but in his accusation he doesn't really explain why it's scummy, just that "it's all bad." It's easy to attack someone for being obviously contradictory without actually calling them scummy, and that's what he did. On January 20 2014 14:25 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Vote Wile E His little act about not knowing what a boxer is does not really jive with the claim. Add to that the fact that he claimed 5 hours into the game after being very clear about how he feels about boxers claiming, and it all just looks bad. I also dislike the sentationalism in this, "his little act," etc., especially in combination with a lack of explanation as to why this means he's scum. It reminds me of Mocsta scum from when I played with him a year ago. 3. Defensive tone + Show Spoiler + On January 20 2014 12:09 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't understand the question. Or the accusation. On January 20 2014 22:36 VisceraEyes wrote: There isn't much to them. After reading through I can at least say that he weakly agrees that I look bad (though I don't know why) and he believes the boxer claim and he thinks other boxers should not claim. I wouldn't mind some elaboration on his issue with me. On January 20 2014 22:52 VisceraEyes wrote: Kish look me in the balls and tell me you don't think that as town if I don't believe a claim that I wouldn't vote for it if I think it is scum. It is not dumb for scum to claim Named VT, they are supposed to claim SOMETHING other than Mafia, yes? On January 20 2014 23:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Ski I'm literally ignoring your posts friend. If you have an actual accusation I'll respond to that. 4. Wishy-washy demeanor + Show Spoiler + On January 20 2014 09:23 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm KINDA okay with Boxers claiming. On January 20 2014 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah I'm mostly indifferent to the matter. I can see the argument for it not being needed and it giving scum information, but I think it could help us in the future by 1) eliminating scum's ability to fake-claim it on the block and 2) forcing scum to decide now whether they want to fake-claim the role. On January 20 2014 11:40 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm giving benefit of the doubt where that its concerned...I had to go look again at the setup to remember myself when it was first mentioned. 5. Wants others to discuss things, not himself + Show Spoiler + On January 20 2014 11:26 VisceraEyes wrote: It does NOT matter if scum figure out the setup before town does...in fact given the nature of this game that is pretty much a given. What DOES matter it's that we not tell them exactly what it is ON DAY ONE BEFORE WE GET ANY INFO OURSELVES, which is very possible if we have boxers claim. Is it worth the risk? I'm starting to think not, but want other opinions. Yes, let's talk MORE about these plans On January 20 2014 22:36 VisceraEyes wrote: There isn't much to them. After reading through I can at least say that he weakly agrees that I look bad (though I don't know why) and he believes the boxer claim and he thinks other boxers should not claim. I wouldn't mind some elaboration on his issue with me. On January 20 2014 22:47 VisceraEyes wrote: Kish I'm open to suggestions. If you think someone is a better lynch then convince me. Its called playing Mafia! :D On January 20 2014 23:04 VisceraEyes wrote: What do you think of bum kush? I liked rayns post on the matter, and agree he looks bad. What do you think? Note the lack of reasoning for his agreement, but the suggestion that others should talk about it 6. "Giving up" on his Wiley scum read and switching to a more convenient target + Show Spoiler + On January 20 2014 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote: I think the timing is such that it is more likely to be a scum fakeclaim than town, but I'm not 100% sold on it. The more we talk about it, the more I can see a townie just not caring what he said earlier, and I guess it's less likely that scum would do something completely against what they previously went on record saying. I can give Slam more time I guess. ##Unvote ##Vote bumatlarge Read: The more people disagree with me, the more I think I should stop pushing for his lynch. I will now randomly vote for someone somebody else made a case on without any further reasoning. Note that the entirety of this post is actually justifying why he is no longer voting for Wiley, and not at ALL why he is now voting for bumatlarge. VE is scummy in tone, content, and voting patterns, and my top scum read now. ##Vote VisceraEyes I don't see where you explain how any of this makes VE mafia. - Everyone was discussing the plans, non-alignment-indicative - So? He was contradicting himself pretty badly, do you disagree? - Why is "defensive tone" scummy? by this definition bumatlarge should be bleeding red already - undecisiviness is not necessarily scummy - "wants others to discuss targets" makes sense he wants opinions if he does not know what's the best play - Switching targets is not scummy, in fact it's more of a townie trait to admit you might be wrong there, wanna elaborate more on why those things make VE scummy? | ||
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On January 21 2014 06:45 suki wrote: Sheeping/agreeing with someone doesn't make anyone mafia, but VE has failed to contribute anything to the game aside from OMGUS and policy talk. So VE is town in your eyes purely from a meta read. In fact it's bumatlarge who is OMGUSing here if you wanna talk about OMGUS. Oh and fails to contribute nothing else also. | ||
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If he really wants to martyr we can kill him. | ||
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On January 21 2014 06:45 suki wrote: Sheeping/agreeing with someone doesn't make anyone mafia, but VE has failed to contribute anything to the game aside from OMGUS and policy talk. So VE is town in your eyes purely from a meta read. On January 21 2014 09:52 suki wrote: ...... I'm going to lay off VE for a bit. Pressuring him is going nowhere and I think he's defended well. What's changed between these posts? | ||
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On January 21 2014 10:02 suki wrote: "Because he (is) probably wrong about you" VE is accusing WileE of being scum. Bum thinks WileE is probably town. -> VE is probably wrong about WileE being scum. I don't think it's a slip. If you assume that bum is mafia, then why would he add in 'probably'? To put it another way, if bum had instead said '... he is holding back because he is wrong about you.' that is what I would call a slip, because bum would have just given away the fact that he knows what WileE's alignment is. He is saying bum slipped because he implies he knows VE is town because if VE is scum he would not possibly be wrong about WileE as he would know his alignment. I don't trust these "scumslips". arguing about semantics is dumb imo. | ||
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 with pictures. <3 | ||
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 Artanis my vote on thrawn was not a joke. It was a serious vote, i do not joke vote. | ||
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I'll go back here until this guy says something. | ||
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Time to read again. | ||
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On January 21 2014 10:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Rayn have a peek at Balla's filter and tell me what you think. I think there's a distinct lack of anything productive. Almost a full page of filter, and not a single scumread. A few light +1's, but nothing that constitutes an actual opinion. Yeah i know, i just want Crossfire to say something. Balla is on watchlist - pretty top. | ||
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