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Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 21 2014 22:16 GMT
#948
I'd lynch balla but not kush
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 21 2014 22:24 GMT
#960
artanis, the first quote you had of mine was me explaining my read now in full which includes the accidental non vt claim which was my first thought about him and his "wildness." The second quote was what I though about him during the post where I came to no conclusion on him. The accidental non vt is in both, so I'm confused about what you're confused about lol.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 21 2014 22:28 GMT
#965
yeah kush, i don't understand this post of yours if you're not a non vt role. Now I think you're scum.

On January 22 2014 07:02 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 06:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 22 2014 06:58 Crossfire99 wrote:
So interesting thought. If we believe all the named vt claims, we lynch kush. If not we lynch one of them because kush soft claimed a powerrole (or not a vt)

Where did he do that?

I read this quote as him doing this. I assumed scum got fake claims and therefore know the structure of at least named vts and regular vts, so this made him town in my eyes, but then he didn't act like I expected him too so I got confused.
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On January 20 2014 09:19 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 20 2014 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I found it ironic that my "name" is Z-Boson, the dude who outed my scumteam by posting our scum QT in thread in one game.

\so you are claiming named vt lol


Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 21 2014 22:35 GMT
#972
On January 22 2014 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:28 Crossfire99 wrote:
yeah kush, i don't understand this post of yours if you're not a non vt role. Now I think you're scum.

On January 22 2014 07:02 Crossfire99 wrote:
On January 22 2014 06:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 22 2014 06:58 Crossfire99 wrote:
So interesting thought. If we believe all the named vt claims, we lynch kush. If not we lynch one of them because kush soft claimed a powerrole (or not a vt)

Where did he do that?

I read this quote as him doing this. I assumed scum got fake claims and therefore know the structure of at least named vts and regular vts, so this made him town in my eyes, but then he didn't act like I expected him too so I got confused.
On January 20 2014 09:19 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 20 2014 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I found it ironic that my "name" is Z-Boson, the dude who outed my scumteam by posting our scum QT in thread in one game.

\so you are claiming named vt lol



That's dimb, he thought i claimed named VT, there's nothing more to read into that.

no, he isn't claiming either named VT or VT there. if he was a VT, he would have known that your role name goes along with how VTs are named. If he is a named VT, he would know that that isn't a named VT role pm. And now since he says he is just a VT, I no longer believe this was a town slip and actually a scum slip.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 21 2014 22:37 GMT
#975
EBWOP: I misread your post, so I changed my first sentence.

On January 22 2014 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 22 2014 07:28 Crossfire99 wrote:
yeah kush, i don't understand this post of yours if you're not a non vt role. Now I think you're scum.

On January 22 2014 07:02 Crossfire99 wrote:
On January 22 2014 06:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 22 2014 06:58 Crossfire99 wrote:
So interesting thought. If we believe all the named vt claims, we lynch kush. If not we lynch one of them because kush soft claimed a powerrole (or not a vt)

Where did he do that?

I read this quote as him doing this. I assumed scum got fake claims and therefore know the structure of at least named vts and regular vts, so this made him town in my eyes, but then he didn't act like I expected him too so I got confused.
On January 20 2014 09:19 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 20 2014 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I found it ironic that my "name" is Z-Boson, the dude who outed my scumteam by posting our scum QT in thread in one game.

\so you are claiming named vt lol



That's dimb, he thought i claimed named VT, there's nothing more to read into that.

no, he is accidentally revealing what info he has. if he was a VT, he would have known that your role name goes along with how VTs are named. If he is a named VT, he would know that that isn't a named VT role pm. And now since he says he is just a VT, I no longer believe this was a town slip and actually a scum slip.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 21 2014 22:42 GMT
#985
On January 22 2014 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I didn't fucking claim anything and he thought i did.
Every single person has a different "name". If i am a cop and you are a cop you can be named "raynpelikoneet" and i can be named "Crossfire99" and it does not tell anything about our role.

kushmasta thought i was claiming named VT for some reason, probably because his "name" was not Z-Boson and he thought i have a different role than he does. If anything he is claiming vanilla town there, because i was talking about my "name" and he thought i climed something.

So yes, if he is not mafi he is vanilla town - based on that post alone, not power role.

Well let me put it this way. I didn't assume that power roles had names cause they're power roles, though I see now they probably do and if you asked about this it would be helpful to know. Actually now hearing kush's explanation and what you said, I don't want to lynch him lol.

Balla anyone?
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 21 2014 22:45 GMT
#992
##Vote: Balla24

I'm down.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 21 2014 22:59 GMT
#1029
On January 22 2014 07:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys, dinner is keeping me away from the thread. wtf 10 pages in 2 hours?

I can't read it all in time. I'll read it all after the flip.

what else do you expect but last minute tl mafia shenanigans.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 21 2014 23:01 GMT
#1033
On January 22 2014 07:59 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:59 Crossfire99 wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi guys, dinner is keeping me away from the thread. wtf 10 pages in 2 hours?

I can't read it all in time. I'll read it all after the flip.

what else do you expect but last minute tl mafia shenanigans.


Is this really a thing cuz I hate it -_-;

it depends on the game, but especially games with *cough* BlazingHand *cough* are known to have lots of last minute shenannies
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 21 2014 23:01 GMT
#1034
On January 22 2014 08:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can't do anything else because people are stupid and start playing at the last hour every game.

Blame my schedule. I don't control it. I'm here when I can be here.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 21 2014 23:08 GMT
#1042
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 21 2014 23:08 GMT
#1045
Peace yo. Gone till tomorrow probably.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 22 2014 15:58 GMT
#1141
Calm down and stop the personal insults people. This is just a game. No need to make the attacks personal. I'll get to what I think on this stuff after I read what I missed but I noticed this just skimming and had to comment.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 22 2014 16:13 GMT
#1142
Haha. Would lynch for this. Great find. (You too suki for the original case which I'm not quoting, but read) In the spoiler below are the towniest of townie posts (sarcasm) that Balla posted in that window to make JLaw (lol, but if this offends you let me know and I won't call you it) do a 180.
On January 23 2014 00:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 22 2014 03:59 JonnyLaw wrote:
I dunno maybe he's frustrated he got no support after putting a lot of effort into a case. Something you did not do.

Hell if it were up to me I'd lynch balla today but that doesn't seem likely. I've played 3 games with him in the last 2-3 months and this is not how town balla should be playing. So, when something's not working find another scummer to lynch. And I think Rayn did exactly that when he found Zarepath.

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On January 22 2014 06:47 JonnyLaw wrote:
On January 22 2014 06:45 suki wrote:
I think Balla's play fits my view of him as town so far.

Aside from the activity level I'd agree.

no no no.
This does not make any sense.

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 22 2014 04:06 Balla24 wrote:
yeah yeah jonny we get it and its true i havent been the same Balla, that's gonna change

Why are you so worried this game though? Usually you are all "well Balla is generally active enough that I can read him later".

I'm fine with lynching zarepath. You guys have both done all the work, which makes you more town definitely, but I still need to see what Crossfire and Artanis are doing before I settle 100%

##unvote
##vote zarepath

On January 22 2014 04:25 Balla24 wrote:
lol Aristotle? You mean artanis?

On January 22 2014 04:33 Balla24 wrote:
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On January 22 2014 04:26 kushm4sta wrote:
Balla why are you voting zare? There is nothing scummy therre. Yes rayn is town and probably jl too but that doesn't make them righT


I disagree, what JL and rayn are pointing out IS scummy to me. He's contradicting himself and playing exactly like how he says scum players play.

With that said though... with artanis jumping on him 2/3 of my current scum reads are voting on him. That doesn't sit well with me. Still want to see what crossfire does though but i'm already reconsidering.

Why don't you think what rayn and JL are saying about zarepath is scummy kush? It looks scummy to me and clearly them.

On January 22 2014 04:41 Balla24 wrote:
You tunneled Rayn for not playing along with your troll, which is fine. You can have a scum read on him for that if you want. But he's done so much more than just not play along with you, which you didn't really say anything about. Your re-entry is consistent though. I just feel like you can and should have been doing so much more. Which is why I'm underwhelmed by your play so far.

My read on crossfire is what I posted in my case, nothing has changed since he hasn't come back and posted anything. So still scum.

JL is the weaker of the 3 that I don't feel very confident about.

On January 22 2014 04:44 Balla24 wrote:
Also I'm still having trouble understanding why you chose to try to get rayn to counterclaim your scum claim. What happens if he plays along?

Rayn told me it was a joke and wrote it off so I didn't pay it any mind but it turns out you had some real motivation for it so I do want an explanation afterall.

On January 22 2014 04:45 Balla24 wrote:
EBWOP: Why you chose to claim SCUM as opposed to anything else.

On January 22 2014 05:03 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 04:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 22 2014 04:44 Balla24 wrote:
Also I'm still having trouble understanding why you chose to try to get rayn to counterclaim your scum claim. What happens if he plays along?

Rayn told me it was a joke and wrote it off so I didn't pay it any mind but it turns out you had some real motivation for it so I do want an explanation afterall.

It's not about if he plays along. I was near certain he would. It's about how he would approach it that would allow me insight into the mindset with which he starts the game. It was also meant as kickstart for the game so we could go straight into scumhunting rather than talk about setup and policy and all that jazz.


Sure that's reasonable.

But why did you chose to call rayn scum based off of only that and barely mention other things that make him scum. Like you said:

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On January 21 2014 04:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
No I'm not happy, because other than refusing to engage me in conversation you're now also attempting to destroy town atmosphere. I have found scum in you, and you are who I want to lynch.


But you didn't say how he was destroying the town atmosphere...

On January 22 2014 05:18 Balla24 wrote:
@thrawn: I don't really have any experience with Slam at all. So let me ask you this:

You seemed to not consider the fact that he is claimed BoxeR. Does that fact change anything with how he might play. To me he seemed to get much less serious after he claimed BoxeR. Similar to when people become confirmed town they start sucking and not caring as much. Do you see Slam doing that here?


Interesting tidbit is the soft bus of Jonny because he's the 3rd most scummy in Balla's eyes, but he's not really sure. Standard sorta scummy but maybe not spiel that scum do all the time especially this early.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 23 2014 23:53 GMT
#1425
##Vote JonnyLaw

Unless he comes back with some amazing stuff, this vote is staying here.

As for the last scum, that's more difficult. I would guess it would be either bum, artanis, or barristan. I've read through their filters and nothing has jumped out at me, so it looks like I'm gonna have to spend so more time on this later because I gotta peace now. Sorry, but I'm crazy busy.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 24 2014 16:45 GMT
#1545
Ok. I'm back. I'm willing to lay off Jonny for now because he's actually tried and done stuff. I can also see his defense as townie. If our lynches don't turn out, we have to look at him again, but for now I'm definitely down for an Artanis lynch. This bum claim clears some things up, and Artanis's activity around lynch is super suspicious plus this quote from him (I feel someone already said this but I can't find it so I apologize to that person)

On January 24 2014 06:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 13:49 suki wrote:
Artanis, do you have any ideas who the third scum is? I notice you asking a lot of questions but haven't posted any of your ideas recently.

I think it might be Barristan. I'm not sure though. The only point that really goes against him was the one I pointed out earlier, other than that nothing really stands out from his filter. If it's not Barristan, then I imagine it's one of the people that's town for the wrong reasons. It could be someone town just for a claim (Zarepath, Wile E, Thrawn). I haven't looked into them too much. Still plenty of time and I'm pretty sure on my other townreads.
-snipped-


Basically, he's attacking what he knows is a fake claim because mafia only have a rb which means 3 named vts is impossible. This is the same thing that bum knows to be false, but he knows it is because he's a parity cop. (I still can't believe you claimed now...you could have at least tried a little bit to move the lynch to artanis before claiming, but whatever lol).

##Unvote JonnyLaw
##Vote Artanis[Xp]
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 24 2014 18:12 GMT
#1583
After reading Artanis, I'm getting a random paranoia moment. I'm actually thinking the scum team could be Jonny and suki. They both had weird reads on Balla early game and acted oddly during the lynch. Honestly with the way suki has actually been throwing cases at everyone until one sticks (and then backing off Jonny once it did if he is actually scum), she could be scum. I don't want to vote her before either of Artanis or Jonny. I've got to think about this more. I'll be back in a few hours in time for the lynch.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 24 2014 22:48 GMT
#1689
Hmmmm. I'm here and I think I gotta keep my vote.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 24 2014 23:03 GMT
#1695
Yeah boi!
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
January 24 2014 23:04 GMT
#1697
qt still there!
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